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September 26th, 2012 at 10:14:09 AM permalink
I've been a lurker here for a while and thought I'd finally join.

I was playing BJ last weekend at the MGM Grand Detroit at a Perfect Pairs table. I don't usually bother with side bets, so whenever I would get a pair everyone at the table would get all up in arms about the money I was losing out on. Thankfully, there was another man at the table who didn't play either and he mentioned he was glad I was there.

There was one really unfortunate moment when the dealer told me I should place $10 on the PP spot because "he had a feeling." I laughed off his advice, and of course, I was dealt a suited pair of 7s. The table got all up in arms over the $300 I had just lost out on. The dealer said sometimes he scares himself.

I'm sure someone has done the math on this before, but is PP a decent bet?
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September 26th, 2012 at 10:19:09 AM permalink
I tip too much usually, but I never tip a dealer who is pimping a side bet. And a windmill delivery on someone who has a side bet out,
will cause me to leave the table.
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September 26th, 2012 at 10:20:44 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

...I'm sure someone has done the math on this before...



Here's a page from the Wizard of Odds about Perfect Pairs.
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September 26th, 2012 at 10:40:47 AM permalink
Quote: ChesterDog

Here's a page from the Wizard of Odds about Perfect Pairs.



If I remember correctly (and it's been a long time since I was up there), MGM used table B, which is the best of those paytables. It's still not great.

I got the same reaction when I would play up there, so don't feel bad. If you want the chance for some big wins, it's not a terrible side bet and the 30:1 is a good payout. You could do worse with Lucky Ladies or a host of other ones... but still not a good bet.
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September 26th, 2012 at 11:00:52 AM permalink
Quote: Tiltpoul

Quote: ChesterDog

Here's a page from the Wizard of Odds about Perfect Pairs.



If I remember correctly (and it's been a long time since I was up there), MGM used table B, which is the best of those paytables. It's still not great.

I got the same reaction when I would play up there, so don't feel bad. If you want the chance for some big wins, it's not a terrible side bet and the 30:1 is a good payout. You could do worse with Lucky Ladies or a host of other ones... but still not a good bet.



Yes it was Table B. I'm not sure if it was a six or eight deck game though.

I'm heading back this weekend. I'll probably skip those Perfect Pair tables just to avoid the hassle.
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September 26th, 2012 at 11:56:42 AM permalink
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I've been a lurker here for a while and thought I'd finally join.

I was playing BJ last weekend at the MGM Grand Detroit at a Perfect Pairs table. I don't usually bother with side bets, so whenever I would get a pair everyone at the table would get all up in arms about the money I was losing out on. Thankfully, there was another man at the table who didn't play either and he mentioned he was glad I was there.

There was one really unfortunate moment when the dealer told me I should place $10 on the PP spot because "he had a feeling." I laughed off his advice, and of course, I was dealt a suited pair of 7s. The table got all up in arms over the $300 I had just lost out on. The dealer said sometimes he scares himself.

I'm sure someone has done the math on this before, but is PP a decent bet?



Welcome ams

When you think about how often the dealer "gets a feeling" or how often a slot attendant points out a "hot" machine you realize that they will eventually be right. They're easy to spot. They'll be the ones with their hands out.
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September 26th, 2012 at 12:01:50 PM permalink
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September 26th, 2012 at 12:04:27 PM permalink
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Welcome ams

When you think about how often the dealer "gets a feeling" or how often a slot attendant points out a "hot" machine you realize that they will eventually be right. They're easy to spot. They'll be the ones with their hands out.



Thanks for the welcome.

He was actually a very good dealer. Much better than the one who was at the table previous to him (the first dealer seemed a little too greedy for tips. I hate that). I had been at the table for probably close to two hours at that point and he knew I wasn't playing Perfect Pairs, but that was the first time he suggested I try. It was just a weird fluke.

Shortly after I moved on to the Caribbean Stud table. There was one hand where I was dealt a straight. And of course the dealer also had a straight, one card higher than mine. Overall not my best day at the casino, but I had fun.
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September 26th, 2012 at 1:52:49 PM permalink
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