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September 2nd, 2012 at 12:39:28 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Exactly why I do not attend live sporting events...too much drinking + false bravado + thinking you are ON the team!!!



I don't go to anything live anymore. The last time
was in 2007 when we saw Penn and Teller at the
Rio. BO-ring, unless you like listening to Penn
Gillette run his mouth for an hour with a few worn
out stunts thrown in. I wanted to walk out but my
wife wanted to make sure she got her money's worth.

Think about it, Teller doesn't talk so so Gillete has to
talk nonstop thru the whole show. Yuk.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 2nd, 2012 at 4:46:43 PM permalink
I've seen P&T twice and thought they were very good. Gillette is good at running his mouth for an hour straight.
Vote for Nobody 2020!
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September 2nd, 2012 at 5:03:41 PM permalink
Quote: bigfoot66

I've seen P&T twice and thought they were very good. Gillette is good at running his mouth for an hour straight.





PLay update:


Well I am now down $5k for this trip...
I did not win one of my double downs the entire day
I did not win one of my splits the entire day

Lady variance now wears a strap-on!
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September 2nd, 2012 at 5:07:10 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades



Lady variance now wears a strap-on!



And no KY in sight..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 2nd, 2012 at 5:14:33 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

And no KY in sight..





There was an empty KY box by the elevator late last night though...hmmmmmm


Riding through negative variance is getting old...

Does anyone have any positive affirmations?
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September 2nd, 2012 at 5:21:56 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades



Does anyone have any positive affirmations?



Here's a good story. The MIT team was using a
million dollar bank and had amassed over $700K
in about six months. They started losing and
in a just a few months lost the whole $700K and
part of the bank. Now thats variance.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 2nd, 2012 at 5:27:13 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Here's a good story. The MIT team was using a
million dollar bank and had amassed over $700K
in about six months. They started losing and
in a just a few months lost the whole $700K and
part of the bank. Now thats variance.





Sounds more like a story to commiserate with rather than inspire LOL

Maybe I should take up drinking and womanizing instead of gambling as a vice?
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September 2nd, 2012 at 5:29:00 PM permalink
It illustrates that variance doesn't play favorites.
You think you're depressed, they lost for months.
But they had won for months before that. Going
around and coming around is what BJ does.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 2nd, 2012 at 5:39:18 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

It illustrates that variance doesn't play favorites.
You think you're depressed, they lost for months.
But they had won for months before that. Going
around and coming around is what BJ does.




Ahhh yes, the endless Circle of BJ!!!


It is just a hell of a lot more fun when lady variance shines on us
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September 2nd, 2012 at 5:43:18 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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September 2nd, 2012 at 5:44:31 PM permalink
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The MIT guys weren't playing with their own money. Stings a bit more when its your own hard earned cash.





beatyouraces - exactly - money from investors is a lot different than one's own personal bankroll - although no kneecap busting of myself - other than metaphorically.
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September 2nd, 2012 at 5:54:15 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

The MIT guys weren't playing with their own money.



Much of the 700K was their profit. How much
of the bank was investor money I'm not sure
of.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 2nd, 2012 at 5:57:39 PM permalink
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September 2nd, 2012 at 7:34:33 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

beatyouraces - exactly - money from investors is a lot different than one's own personal bankroll - although no kneecap busting of myself - other than metaphorically.



Never one to kick a man when he is down ( unless he messed with a loved one ), when you have time to meditate, please rethink your position on insurance. Due to present circumstances, I can offer nothing in the way of monetary condolences.
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September 2nd, 2012 at 7:56:01 PM permalink
Your affirmation is this, my man...

"There is a tide in the affairs of men, which taken at the flood, leads on to fortune. Omitted, all the voyage of their life is bound in shallows and in miseries. On such a full sea are we now afloat. And we must take the current when it serves, or lose our ventures."
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September 2nd, 2012 at 8:30:48 PM permalink
Thought I was on the wrong forum of a minute.

Julius Caesar Act 4, scene 3, 218–224
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September 3rd, 2012 at 5:22:32 AM permalink
Quote: FarFromVegas

Hit the bathroom during the Sunset Grill song. Snoozer.



FFV:

That's one of my favorites. I just love the tone
and melancholy of that song. I also like "Smuggler's
Blues".

I am very very tired of hearing Hotel
California on the radio, like that's the only song
they ever recorded.
There's emptiness behind their eyes There's dust in all their hearts They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
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September 3rd, 2012 at 7:14:29 AM permalink
I feel asleep early last night, shortly after a had $1k up in a good count, dealt an 11, double down against a dealer 4
got my double card face down, dealer turns over a 3 then a ten for a 17
my double card was a 5
good night!



Fast forward to this morning, i am refreshed and awake and ready to grab some of my chips back!!! Who's with me!!!
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September 3rd, 2012 at 8:01:46 AM permalink
Onward!
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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September 3rd, 2012 at 8:19:00 AM permalink
good luck, I just left there, missed you
The bet will not be paid- not now not ever
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September 3rd, 2012 at 9:57:33 AM permalink
OK - first session of the brand new day

Played for an hour and got $1k back
($4k til even for the trip)

Slow and steady wins the race...

Charles Barkley arrived yesterday with a $2million credit line (apparently he was taking photos and having a great time with everyone...of course, I was asleep at 8:30pm so I missed it)

However, I am in a drawing today for a Range Rover (alternate prize is $50k cash) and I have 194 entries...must be present to win (9 minutes to claim prize once name is called) - I have no idea what the EV is on this as I am sure the guys with the $1mil to $2mil credit lines playing this weekend all have 100x more entries than I do LOL
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September 3rd, 2012 at 12:43:54 PM permalink
Where was Hotel Calif in the concert, was it in the first
15min like I predicted?
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September 3rd, 2012 at 12:57:24 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Where was Hotel Calif in the concert, was it in the first
15min like I predicted?



Hotel California was the first encore at the end of the show (as I predicted)


Session update:

got another $500 back then hit the hottest dealer on the planet, lost $1k of the $1,500 back then climbed back with three key doubledowns



Charles Barkley side note - he was refused a line of credit (based on his prior actions with Wynn in Vegas), bought in for $100k and left with $12k from the table
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September 3rd, 2012 at 1:02:56 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Hotel California was the first encore at the end of the show (as I predicted)



So they waited till the end to play their biggest hit?
Did the crowd go nuts when they hit the opening
riffs?
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September 3rd, 2012 at 1:04:30 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

So they waited till the end to play their biggest hit?
Did the crowd go nuts when they hit the opening
riffs?




Oh yes indeed they did - and yes, it was an hour and a half into the show after they already said gnite then about 5 mins later the album cover photo was on the video screen-30 seconds later the guitar intro began
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September 3rd, 2012 at 1:10:05 PM permalink
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Oh yes indeed they did - and yes, it was an hour and a half into the show after they already said gnite then about 5 mins later the album cover photo was on the video screen-30 seconds later the guitar intro began



Did people fall for it? Did they really think they
weren't going to sing their signature song? That
would be like Sinatra not singing My Way. Which
he hated, BTW. Like Dean Martin hated singing
Amore. He would do a few bars and say 'if you
want to hear the rest of it, buy the record.'
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 3rd, 2012 at 3:03:40 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Did people fall for it? Did they really think they
weren't going to sing their signature song? That
would be like Sinatra not singing My Way. Which
he hated, BTW. Like Dean Martin hated singing
Amore. He would do a few bars and say 'if you
want to hear the rest of it, buy the record.'




Some people left - we stayed - but left right after that as they left the stage again PLUS - my family was fed up with the aforementioned a$$holes from previous postings...
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September 3rd, 2012 at 3:05:48 PM permalink
Session news:


Although Bob will not approve, I am playing small sessions with $500 goals each time
I have $2500 out of $5k back


Highlight of the shoe was splitting 6's against a dealer upcard 6
dealt another 6
split
dealt another 6
split

first hand: 16
second hand: 16
third hand: 14
fourth hand: 14

dealer turns over a 4 for 10, then deals himself a 5 for 15, then busts!!!

Talk about the hard way!
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September 3rd, 2012 at 3:10:14 PM permalink
So if you get the 2500, you're still down 3000 from last week?

Been a loooong weekend.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 4th, 2012 at 10:17:34 AM permalink
Was almost back to even for the trip, had a good count, started betting heavier and the walls came crashing down!!! WAY DOWN!!!

I am in quite the depressed state at the moment - although I realize losses occur and variance rules the day, it is tough doing that horrifically in a good count

I will spare you all the gory details - suffice it to say, it was a bloodbath with the casino forcing me to raise the white flag before it all was lost.
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September 4th, 2012 at 11:39:53 AM permalink
Quote: aceofspades



I will spare you all the gory details - suffice it to say, it was a bloodbath with the casino forcing me to raise the white flag before it all was lost.



You're still there? You've been there a week. So you're
still down the $3000 from last time and more from this
trip? Where do you stand now.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 4th, 2012 at 12:17:34 PM permalink
He's not standing anymore, Bob. He is a fallen man.

He fell victim to a voice that was his and yet it was not.

This was an earlier post of his " Slow and steady wins the race..."
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September 4th, 2012 at 3:01:41 PM permalink
Ace,

I hope it improves next trip.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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September 4th, 2012 at 3:59:36 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

He's not standing anymore, Bob. He is a fallen man.

He fell victim to a voice that was his and yet it was not.

This was an earlier post of his " Slow and steady wins the race..."





Lack of sleep and lack of eating did me in
I became my own worst enemy
I became a "gambler" and played with emotions
rather than logic

Perhaps it was a lesson I needed to learn ( having been only playing with a "slight edge" for a few years" )
the casino environment got to me - I succumbed to the excitement of being there

I endeavour to not make this mistake again and I ask for all of your tough love to make it through!
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September 4th, 2012 at 4:06:05 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Ace,

I hope it improves next trip.




Thanks Mission - I taught myself a hard lesson this weekend - and I must learn from it.
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September 4th, 2012 at 4:34:31 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Lack of sleep and lack of eating did me in
I became my own worst enemy
I became a "gambler" and played with emotions
rather than logic

Perhaps it was a lesson I needed to learn ( having been only playing with a "slight edge" for a few years" )
the casino environment got to me - I succumbed to the excitement of being there

I endeavour to not make this mistake again and I ask for all of your tough love to make it through!



Okay, no speech and not too tough love.

Lose the count you are currently using in favor of something stronger and play better games. If you do the former which is much more important you may not need the latter. This may require some time off and definitely requires some commitment.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
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September 4th, 2012 at 4:37:48 PM permalink
Thanks 1BB

I know I need a stronger count and I know I need to play my game only and not fall into the trappings of the casino lifestyle (which I do enjoy)
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September 4th, 2012 at 4:42:41 PM permalink
You may just want to flat bet high limits using basic strategy, and chalk your losses up to the cost of the "casino lifestyle." You'd pay for the vacations/food/concert tickets anyway. Why count and put yourself through all the stress? You'll get plenty of variance flat betting $200-300 a hand.
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
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September 4th, 2012 at 4:58:08 PM permalink
Teddys raises a valid point. I have tunnel vision when it comes to blackjack where I'm there to make money only. You must decide what you want to get out of your casino experience. No one can do it for you.

Be advised that if you do step up your game and start winning more than the casino thinks you should you will no longer be on their A- list.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
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September 4th, 2012 at 5:06:01 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades


I became my own worst enemy
!



Yeah? Did you look in the mirror, what did you see?

Put some numbers with your anxiety, how much are
you down? Over 10 grand?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 4th, 2012 at 5:50:46 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Yeah? Did you look in the mirror, what did you see?

Put some numbers with your anxiety, how much are
you down? Over 10 grand?




7500
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September 4th, 2012 at 6:17:15 PM permalink
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7500



Thats no so bad. I thought you were going to
say 12K. For the amounts you lay out there for
bets, 7500 is very believable. Face it, you bet
like you have 50K BR, so 7500 down is just
a blip. Put things in perspective.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 4th, 2012 at 6:18:07 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Thats no so bad. I thought you were going to
say 12K. For the amounts you lay out there for
bets, 7500 is very believable. Face it, you bet
like you have 50K BR, so 7500 down is just
a blip. Put things in perspective.




I know Bob, but, in the moment, it feels like the world has ended.
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September 4th, 2012 at 6:35:11 PM permalink
Ace I am sorry you are whipped.
I would strongly suggest trying a stronger count and following the index whenever possible and within reason.
Also, I would read up a little bit on bankroll and money management. Loss limits, and playing on tilt or emotion.
Pull it together man. You can come back and whip these places.
I've been playing for 27 years and I don't let a little red ink stop me from my mission.


Also, I love AC, even in winter, mainly because of the ocean
But once the weather turns, you have to go play in PA.
AC edge is almost .3% higher than PA.
Do the math.
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief. - Proverb.
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September 4th, 2012 at 7:18:25 PM permalink
Quote: WongBo

Ace I am sorry you are whipped.
I would strongly suggest trying a stronger count and following the index whenever possible and within reason.
Also, I would read up a little bit on bankroll and money management. Loss limits, and playing on tilt or emotion.
Pull it together man. You can come back and whip these places.
I've been playing for 27 years and I don't let a little red ink stop me from my mission.


Also, I love AC, even in winter, mainly because of the ocean
But once the weather turns, you have to go play in PA.
AC edge is almost .3% higher than PA.
Do the math.




Wong - I agree wholeheartedly with your advice. My emotions got to me. I had friends and family there
and I ended up staying and playing a lot longer than my usual two days. It felt like I was Elvis Presley
living in a casino part-time.
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September 4th, 2012 at 7:23:37 PM permalink
You're the only player I know that just plays
in the casino he's staying at. You need to move
around. I've seen occasions when most of the
BJ dealers in a casino were never busting and
in the next joint they were all busting. Seriously.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 4th, 2012 at 7:34:49 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

You're the only player I know that just plays
in the casino he's staying at. You need to move
around. I've seen occasions when most of the
BJ dealers in a casino were never busting and
in the next joint they were all busting. Seriously.




Bob-this comment surprises me from you
I thought you were a logic-based player and
relied on logic and probability---not whether there
is a "dealers are busting" trend

I agree with your comment but just found it surprising
coming from you is all :-)
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September 4th, 2012 at 7:54:02 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades



I agree with your comment but just found it surprising
coming from you is all :-)



Its still a fact. When I used to play BJ in Downtown
Vegas, sometimes I would walk between the casinos
and just play where I saw dealers busting. It worked
sometimes.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 4th, 2012 at 8:01:42 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Its still a fact. When I used to play BJ in Downtown
Vegas, sometimes I would walk between the casinos
and just play where I saw dealers busting. It worked
sometimes.



I will have to move around town in AC and try different places. I really threw myself under the bus staying way too long and getting too much involved in the social activity of "gambling" as I really was having "good time"
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September 4th, 2012 at 8:10:11 PM permalink
" AC edge is almost .3% higher than PA.
Do the math. "

Never take insurance when 30% of your profit should come from insurance bets.
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