Witnessed Two This Weekend in Dubuque IA

Saw two big wins this weekend at the Diamond Jo casino ...

1) First hand at the Let It Ride table. Player two seats to my left gets dealt three eights. The dealer's first card completes the four of a kind. Their Let It Ride and Mississippi Stud are linked to the same progressive... I think he ended up with around $2,100 for his $10 base bets, $10 three-card poker side bet and optional dollar.

2) One day later, one table over. I was playing a different game in the same pit. A guy hit the Royal Flush in Mississippi Stud for the full progressive ($51,900). Along with the $5,000 he got for each bet, the payout was more than $66K. Despite being encouraged by the other players to take care of the dealer well, he left them a whopping $150. One dealer told me that if he had dealt that, he'd have given the tip back, saying the player obviously needed it more! Yes, the dealer knows it would have been his last act on the job.

Geez I think I would have given probably $100 at most...

$10 tops

$150 is more than enough.

These ingrate dealers try to cut it both ways. When you lose, they say 'we can't control the cards so you should tip us regardless for good service'. When you win, they say, 'I just dealt you a royal worth $60,000! I should get a cut for giving you such a good hand!". I will tip you $5 an hour or so when I am losing, and if I win something big you might get an extra $5 or $10. If I win something $20,000+ I might give you $100. That's it.

Quote: PlayYourCardsRight

Saw two big wins this weekend at the Diamond Jo casino ...

1) First hand at the Let It Ride table. Player two seats to my left gets dealt three eights. The dealer's first card completes the four of a kind. Their Let It Ride and Mississippi Stud are linked to the same progressive... I think he ended up with around $2,100 for his $10 base bets, $10 three-card poker side bet and optional dollar.

2) One day later, one table over. I was playing a different game in the same pit. A guy hit the Royal Flush in Mississippi Stud for the full progressive ($51,900). Along with the $5,000 he got for each bet, the payout was more than $66K. Despite being encouraged by the other players to take care of the dealer well, he left them a whopping $150. One dealer told me that if he had dealt that, he'd have given the tip back, saying the player obviously needed it more! Yes, the dealer knows it would have been his last act on the job.

A dealer at my home casino did the exact thing, saying "I think you need it more than I do". Then again the tip was 25 dollars on a $25,000 payout. That was in fact the last hand he dealt.

On another note, I think that I would have given somewhere around 300-350 to the dealer as well as $100 to the other players at the table, though I wouldn't be too critical of the $150 tip. I think less than 100 would be cheap, but 150 isn't too too bad.

As a dealer, I say $150 is reasonable. $5 is a slap in the face, but it bothers me that dealers feel entitled to a huge tip after dealing a good hand. Some seem to thinkk 10% is fair, but that would be over $6K! in this case.

I personally might have gone up to $500, but there is such a thing as overtipping. I look at it this way, the larger the tip, the smaller the bankroll, and the shorter the sessions, thus fewer opportunities to tip the dealer.

Quote: winmonkeyspit3

A dealer at my home casino did the exact thing, saying "I think you need it more than I do". Then again the tip was 25 dollars on a $25,000 payout. That was in fact the last hand he dealt.

On another note, I think that I would have given somewhere around 300-350 to the dealer as well as $100 to the other players at the table, though I wouldn't be too critical of the $150 tip. I think less than 100 would be cheap, but 150 isn't too too bad.

The other players at the table (all of whom were playing the side bet), got a $1,000 envy bonus.

For the record, $500-$1,000 in my mind would have been OK. I'm not a dealer, just a player, and I tip probably more than most, especially when I'm winning.

If a $100 tip is considered appropriate for a $20,000 royal, and a $200 tip is considered "excessive" for a $20,000 royal, then wouldnt an appropriate tip been around $350??

Quote: AlanMendelson

If a $100 tip is considered appropriate for a $20,000 royal, ... then wouldnt an appropriate tip been around $350??

What happened during the "..." that changed things from $100 being an appropriate tip? I think that all you can say from the post you made is that $350 has not yet been established in whomever's opinion as either inappropriate or appropriate.

Quote: PlayYourCardsRight

The other players at the table (all of whom were playing the side bet), got a $1,000 envy bonus.

I must admit it wouldn't cross my mind to give a "tip" to the players in any game, except craps. there it makes sense to "tip" the shooter if he hits the numbers you need. I'm not saying you ahve to or you should, but that it makes sense.

Still, if there's an envy bonus, then all the less reason to give the players anything.

Quote:

For the record, $500-$1,000 in my mind would have been OK. I'm not a dealer, just a player, and I tip probably more than most, especially when I'm winning.

I tip more when I win, too. I can't say what I'd have done if I won a big jackpot at a table game with a dealer, but $150 seems ok to me. I can see how a delaer would expect more, and be disappointed or even angry at having such epxectations crushed, but returning the tip seems excessive, too. Not to mention it's a bit like cuting your nose to spite your face, too.

Quote: Nareed

I must admit it wouldn't cross my mind to give a "tip" to the players in any game, except craps. there it makes sense to "tip" the shooter if he hits the numbers you need. I'm not saying you have to or you should, but that it makes sense.

When I lived in Kansas City, the Royal Flush on Caribbean Stud hit when it was extremely high (I think over 300,000). I knew the dealer who dealt it, and she told me (as did many other players who were regulars at the casino) that the person who hit it gave all the players at the table $100 each, while his intention was to give NOTHING to the dealer. One of the players finally convinced the guy to tip the dealer, where I think he gave her $50.

I'm not getting into the tipping argument at all. When I hit the Royal on UTH earlier this year, I dropped $75 immediately with $5 wagers on the side bet for the next five hands; then the remainder of the hands (about 50-100), I placed $1 on the bets. All told, it was about a $200 tip (as I hit a straight flush on one). If it were at a casino I played more at, I would have initially tipped more, but it was a casino that I've been two twice before, and will probably not go back for a long while.

Quote: Tiltpoul

I knew the dealer who dealt it, and she told me (as did many other players who were regulars at the casino) that the person who hit it gave all the players at the table $100 each, while his intention was to give NOTHING to the dealer. One of the players finally convinced the guy to tip the dealer, where I think he gave her $50.

Wow! That's really rotten. I mean, regardless of the win, you should always tip the dealer something. I can't conceive not tipping the dealer even when I lose, much less when I win.