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Pinit2winit
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September 13th, 2015 at 10:52:33 PM permalink
Watched someone full press a 6 up to 1200 and walk away with 3750. It can happen! Was at aliante and he tipped the shooter 100
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September 14th, 2015 at 12:24:34 AM permalink
What was the starting bet? How long did the shooter hold the dice? What percentage of the shooter's throws hit 6?
Pinit2winit
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September 14th, 2015 at 8:56:34 AM permalink
He started at 100. Bought in for 1000 shooter shot for about 10 minutes and hit 6 5 times in a row. After he wok the 1200 and came off, six hit again so he put 200 back up and 6 hit twice again. Ide say out of 25 rolls 13 were 6. Then about 6 were 5/3 and the rest were 6/3
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September 14th, 2015 at 10:13:12 AM permalink
Quote: Pinit2winit

shooter shot for about 10 minutes
Ide say out of 25 rolls

25 rolls in 10 minutes is turbo-speed

no video
no proof

nice story
really all that counts
thank you for sharing

I have a neighbor that won $1.5 million off a $15 lottery ticket
"it can happen"

for what reason again?

Oh
"it can happen"

it happens all-the-time at the Fremont Downtown Vegas
no big deal
they power press the #s, no fear there

seen $1000 Buy 4 hit 3 times in a row too after a first bet of only $25
I bet $25 Ahigh has seen that 2 (1+1)


"it can happen"
thank you for sharing
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September 14th, 2015 at 10:19:13 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

How long did the shooter hold the dice?

you bring this up (time holding the dice concept)
in many of your comments all over and on the internet

what has "the time" holding the dice have to do with craps?

you are a reporter so i figure you could ask around and get some answers
other than your own

I saw a woman "hold the dice" for over 30 minutes and the table was losing and all the right way betters were not happy about losing and the time she was holding the dice.
it took about 5 minutes for one roll (if i remember)
but i guess it is more important that she held the dice for 30 minutes

what time is it?
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Pinit2winit
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September 14th, 2015 at 12:07:10 PM permalink
That's cool I'll keep my sightings to myself from now on since they are met with sarcasm and disbelief.
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September 14th, 2015 at 1:50:04 PM permalink
Quote: Pinit2winit

That's cool I'll keep my sightings to myself from now on since they are met with sarcasm and disbelief.



Remember where you are... a forum filled with numbers guys, gamblers..... I read your post..... and the first thing when reading your answer that he started at 100..... was that I thought it must be a multiple of 6... and 100 is not a multiple of 6... but maybe I am wrong so I didn't post.... What do you get paid if you bet 100 on the 6 and it hits? I always thought you get 7 for 6..... It could be I don't know what I'm talking about as I have never pressed to more than $12!

Anyway, please keep posting... and remember ... there may be hundreds of members who just liked reading your post but didn't feel a need to respond...
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September 14th, 2015 at 11:50:29 PM permalink
i think he started at like 3 greens or something i cant remember, i do remember he bought in for 900 and left with 3750 after one shooter. also 100 pays 100 just like 5 pays 5 10 pays 10 etc etc, you dont have to have your bets "correct". oh well it was cool for him, he was hawaiian visiting his daughter. Went back this morning and he was there again with the shooter as well. we didnt win but was fun talking about the night prior.
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September 15th, 2015 at 12:49:31 AM permalink
If you enjoy shooting craps with a bunch of Hawaiians: The California is the place to be, so load up the truck and move from Aliante. *sung to the tune of "The Beverly Hillbillies*
"What, me worry?"
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September 15th, 2015 at 4:57:50 AM permalink
Quote: Pinit2winit

... also 100 pays 100 just like 5 pays 5 10 pays 10 etc etc, you dont have to have your bets "correct".


So, when placing bets on the six, a $96 wager will pay $112, but a $100 wager will only pay $100? I think I won't bother playing in that casino.
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September 15th, 2015 at 6:41:31 AM permalink
Quote: Pinit2winit

That's cool I'll keep my sightings to myself from now on since they are met with sarcasm and disbelief.

i made the comment that your post was a "nice story" and you did not even thank me for that.
i even thanked you for sharing your story.

it does not matter that over 98.6% of everything on the internet in text is not right, is wrong or is just a flat out lie.
i failed to mention how accurate images are on the internet
especially about women and Donald Trump
I let Meghan explain it


nows,
your line about a payout for $5 pays $5 and $100 pays $100 is in that category too (3-1)

i can only conclude you do not know what you are talking about

or

you
may (septemBER) just be out to demonstrate your entertainment value that i give a 3 on a scale of 1 to 5...
as i can not have that same conclusion about Alan Mendelson, as he has said he does take medication(s)

still
thank you for sharing your words
they are so funny

like the Wizard of Odds funny
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September 15th, 2015 at 6:49:48 AM permalink
Quote: Doc

So, when placing bets on the six, a $96 wager will pay $112, but a $100 wager will only pay $100? I think I won't bother playing in that casino.

why the fear?
just call Gaming and have them show up and state the rules and the correct payoff
it is how we as humans can and due learn stuff

the casino will "get it" sooner or later

that casino may also give out free buffet coupons and free tickets to the Donny and Marie show at the Flamingo
so you may want to accept $100 for a $100 place 6 (a sucker bet for sure) but by doing so you are so +EV with the show and food it is difficult for my small brain to understand how a casino could remain open for business

I think i start with the As
Alan M
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September 15th, 2015 at 7:33:30 AM permalink
Quote: Pinit2winit

also 100 pays 100 just like 5 pays 5 10 pays 10 etc etc, you dont have to have your bets "correct".



Huh?
"What, me worry?"
Pinit2winit
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September 15th, 2015 at 9:05:13 AM permalink
It was a guess. I was stick right to the far side and he was left to the far side. I don't know what 100 pays. I'm guessing 7/6 like everything else just didn't do the math
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September 15th, 2015 at 10:37:19 AM permalink
Quote: Pinit2winit

I don't know what 100 pays. I'm guessing 7/6 like everything else just didn't do the math

to complete the math is easy cuz you posted all the required values

100/1 * 7/6 = 700/6 dollars exactly = 116 and 2/3 dollars

the 116 is easy and many places do not have exactly 2/3 of a dollar chip
many have 1/2 dollar chip, like El Cortez and other famous Downtown Vegas Casinos.

so they get close

just like i have seen many, many, many, many, many, many, many times ( i used to play a lot of craps - 14 hours each day on average)

Uh, Oh yes
a player go all-in for $5 on the place 8 and win and get paid exactly $5.50 (instead of the correct payout of 5/1 * 7/6 = 35/6 dollars)
and they be so happy, Hi-5s all around,
they take their $10.50 and go away to spend it, celebrating until out of sight and sound.
super wonderful!

this is stuff craps experts know about
i have the ONLY craps expert compiled list on the internet and i am not a craps expert.

thank you for again sharing your observations
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September 15th, 2015 at 12:53:50 PM permalink
Quote: mustangsally

thank you for again sharing your observationsSally



Here's an "observation," sort of.

I was playing craps at M a couple years ago and the dealer struck up a conversation about my Maurice Lacroix Masterpiece Phase de Lune.

Never know where you'll run into a Swiss watch aficionado.
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September 15th, 2015 at 2:37:22 PM permalink
Quote: Pinit2winit

He started at 100. Bought in for 1000 shooter shot for about 10 minutes and hit 6 5 times in a row. After he wok the 1200 and came off, six hit again so he put 200 back up and 6 hit twice again. Ide say out of 25 rolls 13 were 6. Then about 6 were 5/3 and the rest were 6/3



Who bets $100 or $200 at a craps table on a place six?

Normal players bet $90 or $102 or $120... but an even $100 ??

Already I have a problem.
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September 15th, 2015 at 2:41:25 PM permalink
Quote: mustangsally

you bring this up (time holding the dice concept)
in many of your comments all over and on the internet

what has "the time" holding the dice have to do with craps?



It has everything to do with the original poster's claim. If the shooter was able to win so much money on the six I wanted to know if he held the dice for three minutes or if he held the dice for two hours. It would make a difference.

If he held the dice for two hours I would say winning only that amount of money would be ridiculous. And if he held the dice for only three minutes it would also be ridiculous -- but the opposite way.

Why are you so critical of people?
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September 15th, 2015 at 10:41:01 PM permalink
Like i said before i was more focused on my 200$ lay of the 4 than to go over and count how much he started with. Every other time ive seen him (3 now) he starts with 150 place on the 6 after a 50 pass and 200 odds bet. I am new to the whole craps scene so forgive me if my values are off a little but the last thing im doing is creating fiction to impress people online who i assume i will never meet. It was a hell of a roll for the roller as well as the one who bet so much on 6. I can only guess this doesnt happen every day someone goes as it does not for me so i thought i'de share with everyone under the "big wins" section of the forum. If it was a lie wouldn't i have used myself as the one who won so much?
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September 30th, 2015 at 11:02:13 AM permalink
My brain hurts from this story, there's so much back and forth about legitimate details and incomplete information back and forth.

Also, I don't generally count what a guy walks away with, because for all I know, he's bought in for 4 thousand and broke even at a 4 thousand payoff and walked, especiallllllllllllly on a craps table. I play with a lot of high rolling regulars (it helps to milk comps this way) that will end up buying in for 3 or 4 grand before the "big roll" happens and they walk away with 2.5 or 3k.

That being said, I've seen a 1200 6 before, I've seen a 1200 8 before. I've done both of them myself.

I had the roll of a lifetime at the Bellagio last year. I didn't count my exact rolls, but after just shy of two hours there (on a saturday with a lot of action in the center) the stickman said "man that must have been 80 or more rolls" and the table was completely electric. Guys were taking out loans from their grandmothers just to get on the table while this was going on. We started with maybe 6 guys at the table, and by the time it was all over, we were 6 or 7 deep behind the table.

At the end, I had the 4/10 at 600, 5/9 at 500, and the 6/8 at 1200. I started 64AI and only ever hit a single point. I started incredibly slow, collecting twice my wager which took about 16 or 17 rolls, From there I pressed each pair up incredibly slow, usually a single unit at a time until I could get them to $50 or $60 each, and then I started to 2x press the bets until they reach 100/120, and then I'd collect a few, and then 2x press again. At one point during my roll, I rolled 9 consecutive horn numbers, including rolling the horn twice through, which really did me no good, but made a literal fortune for those betting the center stuff. I collected 3 times on my 1200 g/8 before the 7 out, and left the table with over 7 grand after a pretty outrageous tip. What cracked me up the most is that though I was the one shooting, I believe I made the least amount of anyone who was at the table when we started lol.
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September 30th, 2015 at 3:09:06 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Who bets $100 or $200 at a craps table on a place six?

Normal players bet $90 or $102 or $120... but an even $100 ??

Already I have a problem.



Similar reason why some people bet $36 on the 5 or 9.

$100 on 6 pays $116. Full press makes it look like $216. $216 IS proper. $216 pays $252. Full press it looks like $468. 468 once again is proper. That pays 546. Full press and it looks like $1,014. Again, a proper bet. That pays $1183. This is the first time the payout does not make a proper bet.

$100 bets on 6/8 are common. IME, usually by blacks (because they don't know any better and dealer won't help 'em) or people doing some kinda pressing strategy. Another one is $100 on 6 and 8. If it hits press both to $150 and take $16 change. If another one hits, player drops $5 and press both 6 and 8 to $240 each.
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