Not quite a Royal
November 21st, 2014 at 6:40:59 AM
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Why should Royals be the only things we celebrate?
Surely we can enjoy the almost-as-goods...
Oh Super Times Pay... why you only hit with a good multiplier on low hands?
Surely we can enjoy the almost-as-goods...
Oh Super Times Pay... why you only hit with a good multiplier on low hands?
May the cards fall in your favor.
November 21st, 2014 at 6:48:26 AM
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Nice wins Dieter! I don't play much VP so your wins are impressive to me, royal or not =p. How comes your "win" box in the first picture doesn't say 1200?
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
November 21st, 2014 at 6:54:18 AM
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Quote: RomesHow comes your "win" box in the first picture doesn't say 1200?
Snapped the pic before it finished counting :)
You can almost see that none of the buttons are lit, and I think the last digit of the win meter is midway between two digits...
I was on my way out, thought to try $100, and cashed at $801.50. Not bad for probably 30 minutes. Decided to stick around a little more after that. :)
May the cards fall in your favor.
November 21st, 2014 at 10:12:53 AM
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Don't play 6/5 BP!!
Nice hits though. Getting a nice dealt hand is always great in STP/double STP/UTX.
Nice hits though. Getting a nice dealt hand is always great in STP/double STP/UTX.
November 22nd, 2014 at 8:45:59 AM
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Quote: RSDon't play 6/5 BP!!
Best available at this joint... otherwise it's 7/5 JoB. The hinterlands are not good for video poker, but video poker is still better than many of the slots.
May the cards fall in your favor.
November 22nd, 2014 at 6:52:04 PM
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On the topic of "not quite a royal".... Just hit this bad boy:
Too bad it was for quarters....
On video poker for winners!.....grrr
Too bad it was for quarters....
On video poker for winners!.....grrr
November 22nd, 2014 at 6:58:24 PM
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Quote: RSOn the topic of "not quite a royal".... Just hit this bad boy:
Too bad it was for quarters....
On video poker for winners!.....grrr
You already had $1100 in the machine. Did that include winnings or do you just always play quarters with that much money? Still good hit. I have never hit a royal even on the app on my phone...
One must rise at the tree where one fell
November 22nd, 2014 at 7:08:18 PM
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Quote: DnalorailedI have never hit a royal even on the app on my phone...
Interesting enough, I have a dozen or so royals a year in real casinos. But not hit a single royal on my iPhone and I played on my iPhone a lot lot, in order to practice strategies.
winning streaks come and go, losing streak never ends.
November 22nd, 2014 at 7:20:32 PM
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Dnalorailed, that was on an app on my computer (VPW [ Video Poker for Winners! ]).
Oddly enough, I've hit 2 royals on VPW.....both on Deuces Wild (one just now on FPDW, another a while back on NSUD). And I really don't play all that much VP on the software.
I'd estimate I've played at least 50x in real life...and going from memory, I've hit 4 royals in real life (3 on 10-line....1 on single line).
Oddly enough, I've hit 2 royals on VPW.....both on Deuces Wild (one just now on FPDW, another a while back on NSUD). And I really don't play all that much VP on the software.
I'd estimate I've played at least 50x in real life...and going from memory, I've hit 4 royals in real life (3 on 10-line....1 on single line).
November 22nd, 2014 at 7:32:10 PM
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hm.. is super times play vulturable?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
November 22nd, 2014 at 7:39:22 PM
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My bad...I should have noticed that.
One must rise at the tree where one fell
November 22nd, 2014 at 7:42:01 PM
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Quote: 100xOddshm.. is super times play vulturable?
No, the multiplier is random and the award is on the hand currently being played.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
November 22nd, 2014 at 7:43:16 PM
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Quote: 100xOddshm.. is super times play vulturable?
each hand is independent, so I would say no
winning streaks come and go, losing streak never ends.
November 22nd, 2014 at 8:00:35 PM
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besides ultimate X, must hit slots, and 'around the clock' slots, any other games that are vulturable?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
November 22nd, 2014 at 8:34:44 PM
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Bonus hand VP.
100% risk of ruin
November 22nd, 2014 at 9:46:52 PM
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Quote: 100xOddsbesides ultimate X, must hit slots, and 'around the clock' slots, any other games that are vulturable?
Any progressive, by its very nature, can be vulturable...unless it's capped...you just have to know when the EV is in your favor.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
November 22nd, 2014 at 10:22:54 PM
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You wasted a RF. Did you start your Royal scare count over?Quote: RSOn the topic of "not quite a royal".... Just hit this bad boy:
RF
Too bad it was for quarters....
On video poker for winners!.....grrr
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 22nd, 2014 at 10:30:27 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfYou wasted a RF. Did you start your Royal scare count over?
Absolutely. I set the clicky spinny thing on my watch back to 0.
November 22nd, 2014 at 10:40:37 PM
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Where did you learn that?Quote: RSAbsolutely. I set the clicky spinny thing on my watch back to 0.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 23rd, 2014 at 12:26:26 AM
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Quote: RSOn the topic of "not quite a royal".... Just hit this bad boy:
I blame Obama for being in the state, but you can choose what to blame.
"Man Babes" #AxelFabulous
November 23rd, 2014 at 3:23:22 AM
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Quote: DnalorailedI have never hit a royal even on the app on my phone...
How much do you play? Gut feeling says I expect to hit one about every 30 hours.
Just checked it... at 4sec/hand, 3 line, that should be about right. It is completely OK to play slower than that.
May the cards fall in your favor.
November 23rd, 2014 at 7:33:49 AM
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Quote: RogerKintBonus hand VP.
huh? what is it?
its not listed here: https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
November 23rd, 2014 at 8:21:00 AM
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...then I must have made it up. Sorry about that. Sticky wilds are fun too. I'm pretty sure that's a thing.
100% risk of ruin
November 24th, 2014 at 1:48:54 AM
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ObviouslyQuote: RogerKint...then I must have made it up.
You should patent and copyright it Have a bonus hand game and add it to a triple play draw poker. then when you get dealt a FH, flush, str8 , 3k, or two pair, you can receive a free hand for every hand played. (;
QUICK BEFORE IGT BEATS YOU TO IT.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 24th, 2014 at 2:42:53 AM
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Quote: 100xOddshuh? what is it?
its not listed here: https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/
It's an old game. Very unlikely to be in your jurisdiction. .
November 24th, 2014 at 2:49:02 AM
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I believe there's a mix up. It's A new game that i'm thinking about as I sarcastically described .Quote: tringlomaneIt's an old game. Very unlikely to be in your jurisdiction. .
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 24th, 2014 at 3:00:30 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfI believe there's a mix up. It's A new game that i'm thinking about as I sarcastically described .
I was thinking of this game.
http://www.igt.com/us-en/games/game-page.aspx?type_id=3288&showtab=1
November 24th, 2014 at 4:23:01 AM
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You consider that old?Quote: tringlomaneI was thinking of this game.
http://www.igt.com/us-en/games/game-page.aspx?type_id=3288&showtab=1
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 24th, 2014 at 8:45:46 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfYou consider that old?
Old enough for Maryland not to have it.
November 24th, 2014 at 1:22:59 PM
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Ahh yes newer casino, that makes sense why you said that.Quote: tringlomaneOld enough for Maryland not to have it.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
January 18th, 2015 at 9:17:04 AM
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January 18th, 2015 at 10:24:48 AM
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Almost as good as a dealt royal...
May the cards fall in your favor.
January 18th, 2015 at 10:42:16 AM
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RS, very nice hit. Nothing like having the quads and getting the kicker on the draw! And on the top line to boot!
January 18th, 2015 at 10:26:26 PM
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Quote: Dieter
Almost as good as a dealt royal...
:(
And nice hit, rs!
January 18th, 2015 at 10:40:58 PM
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I got dealt AKQJ In spades the other day.... nothing on the draw. 1 away from dealt Sequential. .50 I believe.Quote: tringlomane:(
And nice hit, rs!
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
March 1st, 2015 at 8:25:49 AM
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imagine my disappointment. win of $2400 (41.3% chance) or $5600 (42.5% chance) or $8800 (14.6% chance) or $12000 (1.7% chance)
Edited percentages.. thanks to Shadowless for pointing out my error.
Edited percentages.. thanks to Shadowless for pointing out my error.
March 9th, 2015 at 10:32:10 PM
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Quote: rsactuaryimagine my disappointment. win of $2400 (41.3% chance) or $5600 (42.5% chance) or $8800 (14.6% chance) or $12000 (1.7% chance)
Edited percentages.. thanks to Shadowless for pointing out my error.
Here's how I got them, but I'm not 100% sure if it's correct. It adds up, though.
The 4 held deuces are cards 49, 50, 51, and 52.
That leaves 48 remaining, and there are four of each As, 3s, and 4s, for a total of 12 outs 12/48 to hit the low kicker (25%).
That means the chance of hitting a regular 4 deuces is 75%.
75%^3 = 42.1875%
(75%^2 * 25%) * 3 = 42.1875%
(75% * 25%^2) * 3 = 14.0625% (we multiply by three because it can end up in any one of the three games.)
25%^3 = 1.5625%
The only part that troubles me and seems incorrect is that the percentage of getting 3x four deuces without low kicker is the same as 2x four deuces no kicker plus 1x four deuces A/3/4 kicker.
March 9th, 2015 at 10:48:22 PM
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Your method is correct.
It's coincidental 0 and 1 successes are equal. There are 3 positions for placing one success and the individual success probability (.25) is exactly 3 times less than the fail probability (.75). So the factors cancel to match the zero success case.
It's coincidental 0 and 1 successes are equal. There are 3 positions for placing one success and the individual success probability (.25) is exactly 3 times less than the fail probability (.75). So the factors cancel to match the zero success case.
March 10th, 2015 at 3:25:05 AM
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The other day I was playing a little bit of VP, and was thinking to myself, "Of all the dealt SF's I've ever gotten, it seems like most have been 9TJQK". I think I had gotten 3 of those, and one that was lower (like 23456 or 34567). And sure enough, a few minutes later, I get dealt 9TJQK suited. Of course, I held the SF and didn't go for the RF.
But initially, I was like, "Ah f***, that was so close to a dealt royal!" but then I thought about it for a few minutes, and realized, if I get a dealt royal, I'd much rather it be when I'm playing a larger amount, like $25 or $50 per spin....instead of a measly $1.25 per spin.
I been playing some on videopoker.com, just for fun, trying out new games and whatnot. I was playing Multi-Strike. Remember, just playing for fun. So sometimes, if I'd get something like 3 to a royal with a high pair, I'd say screw it, Imma go for the royal. Well, sure enough, I get to the top line on MS (8x?), and get 3 to a royal and a high pair. Natural instinct kicked in and I held the high pair. The next 2 cards I was dealt were the Jack and Ten of hearts, that would'a connected for the royal. But hey, 1) I did the correct play by holding the high pair and 2) It was for fake money. Would'a been cool to get 8x on a RF on MS, though. But whatever. No harm no foul.
But initially, I was like, "Ah f***, that was so close to a dealt royal!" but then I thought about it for a few minutes, and realized, if I get a dealt royal, I'd much rather it be when I'm playing a larger amount, like $25 or $50 per spin....instead of a measly $1.25 per spin.
Not that I'd ever turn down a dealt RF on a $1.25/spin game, but, ya know what I mean.
I been playing some on videopoker.com, just for fun, trying out new games and whatnot. I was playing Multi-Strike. Remember, just playing for fun. So sometimes, if I'd get something like 3 to a royal with a high pair, I'd say screw it, Imma go for the royal. Well, sure enough, I get to the top line on MS (8x?), and get 3 to a royal and a high pair. Natural instinct kicked in and I held the high pair. The next 2 cards I was dealt were the Jack and Ten of hearts, that would'a connected for the royal. But hey, 1) I did the correct play by holding the high pair and 2) It was for fake money. Would'a been cool to get 8x on a RF on MS, though. But whatever. No harm no foul.
March 10th, 2015 at 7:01:57 AM
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Quote: RSIt was for fake money. Would'a been cool to get 8x on a RF on MS, though. But whatever. No harm no foul.
It's OK, you could have pretended that the machine locked up and waited for anyone at all to walk by before proceeding to not have the documents for your fake W2G... ;)
May the cards fall in your favor.
March 10th, 2015 at 7:37:05 AM
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I'm disagreeing with this approach because I've already discarded the 48th card... I was dealt a non-kicker on the deal. So there are 47 cards left from which I could draw from.
March 10th, 2015 at 7:39:45 AM
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Keep in mind that *if* the cards are continuously shuffled while you played that the moment you hit the deal button if you were keeping the high pair vs the three to RF would be different and would result in different cards dealt.
I say "if" because I don't know how it works on videopoker.com, but I'm pretty sure the Wiz said that it's constantly shuffling on the actual VP machines in casinos.
I say "if" because I don't know how it works on videopoker.com, but I'm pretty sure the Wiz said that it's constantly shuffling on the actual VP machines in casinos.
March 10th, 2015 at 7:53:50 AM
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Quote: rsactuaryKeep in mind that *if* the cards are continuously shuffled while you played that the moment you hit the deal button if you were keeping the high pair vs the three to RF would be different and would result in different cards dealt.
Doesn't matter.
You don't hold the cards, you hit deal, you get different cards. Unless you have some insight into which cards you are going to get (you probably don't), assume that you have a fair and random chance of getting any particular remaining card in any particular draw position (matters for SRF).
If you do happen to know what cards are coming next, I'm sure you can find a backer.
May the cards fall in your favor.
March 10th, 2015 at 8:08:26 AM
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I think you misunderstood my comment.. I think we agree.
March 10th, 2015 at 8:39:36 AM
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Quote: rsactuaryI think you misunderstood my comment.. I think we agree.
Probably. You either want the cards you were dealt, or you want different cards. If the pack you draw from is continuously shuffled or not shouldn't matter... unless you know something.
May the cards fall in your favor.
March 26th, 2015 at 6:34:06 PM
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lol at ending up w/a straight flush on all 3 lines.
unfortunately in the bonus round I got $0 :(
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
April 4th, 2015 at 7:40:56 PM
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It has been a really good few weeks for 4oK with multipliers, it seems...
(the sadness of drawing 3A's and a kicker on BP instead of DDB...)
(the sadness of drawing 3A's and a kicker on BP instead of DDB...)
May the cards fall in your favor.
April 4th, 2015 at 9:13:07 PM
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Nice!
whats the game w/7x and 11x multiplers?
and why stp over ultimate X?
whats the game w/7x and 11x multiplers?
and why stp over ultimate X?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
April 4th, 2015 at 9:43:53 PM
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Quote: 100xOddsNice!
whats the game w/7x and 11x multiplers?
and why stp over ultimate X?
Hot roll poker. 1/6 chance to roll the dice, 7x average multiplier.
STP easier to play than UX, I says.
April 4th, 2015 at 9:52:50 PM
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Downstream Casino, OK (10 mi W of Joplin, MO)
Still never had a Royal, but these will do in the meantime.
Still never had a Royal, but these will do in the meantime.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
