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September 26th, 2014 at 6:15:11 AM permalink
Quote: SiegfriedRoy

I am sure the dealers know. I gave away tens of thousands in tips throughout the ordeal. Other than huge slot jackpots, I think the casinos know to be quiet about table win/losses.



the casinos may keep quiet but dealers won't
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September 26th, 2014 at 6:18:51 AM permalink
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I feel sorry for your future gambling life. I can guarantee that playing red chip BJ will no longer be fun. I have basically moved up to green chip BJ and red chip for me just seems ho hum. I can imagine how I would feel if I were betting 1000s then switched back to red.





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September 26th, 2014 at 6:20:01 AM permalink
Quote: SiegfriedRoy

I am very frugal and take every win as a blessing even if I win a $5 bet.




Some blessings are more equal than others!
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September 26th, 2014 at 6:36:23 AM permalink
Quote: SiegfriedRoy

I am sure the dealers know. I gave away tens of thousands in tips throughout the ordeal. Other than huge slot jackpots, I think the casinos know to be quiet about table win/losses.



I know the many reasons that players tip but I'm interested in hearing yours.

Were you in such a euphoric state that you couldn't help yourself? Did you perceive the dealers as making you win? Did they hustle you and make you feel obligated or are you just a generous person?
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September 26th, 2014 at 6:37:43 AM permalink
To the OP, I congratulate you on your win! You have been respectful of the skepticism (including mine) and have responded to all questions. I don't doubt you won a million, just find it hard to believe the how many times you multiplied your buy-in on almost consecutive sessions. Especially starting with such small amounts (relative to the winnings). In any case, glad you got the money. I'll be in Vegas for eight nights in October so hopefully you left a little for me to get. Continued good fortune.
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September 26th, 2014 at 6:55:36 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

I know the many reasons that players tip but I'm interested in hearing yours.

Were you in such a euphoric state that you couldn't help yourself? Did you perceive the dealers as making you win? Did they hustle you and make you feel obligated or are you just a generous person?



I don't believe the dealers helped me win at all. They were extremely friendly and fun to play with. I tip because I am generous and I also had friends who used to be dealers when I lived in Vegas (mostly poker). I guess I have a soft spot for dealers who take abuse from ploppies and inhale all that 2nd hand smoke everyday. I guess it is part of occupational hazard if you will, but I do not mind tipping good dealers who generally want me to win. I even had a dealer make subtle hints that I should take a break when the swings were bad. I am going to guess that the dealer was counting and knew I was not, and maybe the count was nor favorable?? The dealer was looking after the best interest (my chips which he knew I'd be tipping if I were winning). But that is just my guess. I really don't know. I hope I answered your question on why I tip.
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September 26th, 2014 at 7:04:05 AM permalink
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September 26th, 2014 at 7:17:10 AM permalink
Quote: SiegfriedRoy

I don't believe the dealers helped me win at all. They were extremely friendly and fun to play with. I tip because I am generous and I also had friends who used to be dealers when I lived in Vegas (mostly poker). I guess I have a soft spot for dealers who take abuse from ploppies and inhale all that 2nd hand smoke everyday. I guess it is part of occupational hazard if you will, but I do not mind tipping good dealers who generally want me to win. I even had a dealer make subtle hints that I should take a break when the swings were bad. I am going to guess that the dealer was counting and knew I was not, and maybe the count was nor favorable?? The dealer was looking after the best interest (my chips which he knew I'd be tipping if I were winning). But that is just my guess. I really don't know. I hope I answered your question on why I tip.



Yes, you did. You sound like a great guy. Tipping is a sore spot with some of us here.

On a related note, I know of a few slot attendants who would point out the "hot" machines to anyone who would walk by. Eventually one would hit and you know the rest of that story.
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September 26th, 2014 at 8:13:51 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

Yes, you did. You sound like a great guy. Tipping is a sore spot with some of us here.

On a related note, I know of a few slot attendants who would point out the "hot" machines to anyone who would walk by. Eventually one would hit and you know the rest of that story.



Haha. That is clever. Vegas is such a crazy town...I love it. Anything CAN happen.
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September 26th, 2014 at 8:50:36 AM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

I see a pattern, and in my very expert opinion, it's not apophenia.



Darn it. Had to use Google again to figure out what that line meant.

Great word!
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September 26th, 2014 at 9:25:11 AM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

Let me ask you a question. Does it bring you joy to make comments like the comment you made here?

yes
and I know you love me
I love you too
Quote: Ahigh

I went back to read some of the first interactions that I had with you.

those first dates only come around once
thank you for remembering

for all your quirks,
what a big heart you have!

(that is nice)
Quote: Ahigh

I had a few unpleasant emotions reading what you wrote.

1 - a few unpleasant emotions = many pleasant emotions

Quote: Ahigh

I see a pattern, and in my very expert opinion, it's not apophenia.

the OP, who will remain nameless, should have asked what were his chances of turning $5000 into $1 million on how he played, imo


instead he just said

look at me!!
look at what I did!

and I thanked him for sharing
===========================

now for some math

his attempt was to turn 5k into 1 million and that is turning 1 unit into 200 units = the event
(1,000,000 / 5,000 or 1,000,000 * 1/5000)


now, who gets all hard and bothered by one claiming, maybe me, that started with $1 and turned that into $200

crickets?


exactly the same as turning $5k into $1 million (a cool million)


example:
for the don't pass against dicesetter as shooter (he on the pass)

I see the probability of that event being close to 1 in 224.0267881 (close to you)
or out of 1 million attempts, keeping dicesetter busy,
abouts 4464 are successful, even if they are blind squirrels

so, as mentioned some rare events do happen every day or every week

I think the OP did nothing special
and if he were to try it again, Oh Ahigh
let us not go there
(and I enjoyed your thank you for me finishing your incomplete simulation too)

thank you for sharing

Sally is nice
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September 26th, 2014 at 9:38:17 AM permalink
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September 26th, 2014 at 9:49:44 AM permalink
Quote: SiegfriedRoy

In my defense, I never really cared about the probability.

no need to show a defense
I think you did the right thing, sharing that is

I was just not impressed with what you did (you want to spank me for that)
and
stated that as fact (as my opinion)
with my reason for it

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no one would be impressed with turning $1 into $200
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that is exactly what you did, as I see it
of course, keeping the math simple for all of us

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September 26th, 2014 at 9:58:18 AM permalink
Quote: mustangsally


I see the probability of that event being close to 1 in 224.0267881 (close to you)



That's the odds of running up 1 unit to 200 when the max bet is only 2 units? Is that the max bet you used in the sim (i.e. $10k)?


Quote: SiegfriedRoy

I am sure the dealers know. I gave away tens of thousands in tips throughout the ordeal. Other than huge slot jackpots, I think the casinos know to be quiet about table win/losses.



No they wouldn't, they would like people to think they can win big at any game they offer. They still have the edge. The only logical reason that they may not publicize it is that they would think it would attract more APs than regular players (questionable line of thinking at best).

If you stick to your future plans though, the casinos won't like you much. They want to win that money back!
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September 26th, 2014 at 10:31:18 AM permalink
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September 26th, 2014 at 10:33:54 AM permalink
Btw. Tringlomane, I really loved your last trip report to Vegas. That was well done with great pictures. Enjoyed every word.
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September 26th, 2014 at 10:47:58 AM permalink
Quote: SiegfriedRoy

Btw. Tringlomane, I really loved your last trip report to Vegas. That was well done with great pictures. Enjoyed every word.



Thanks! But there is still more...lol I documented nearly everything! I just didn't release it all at once because it would be a lot to deal with.

And with going back to red/green chip play, I would think going to CET too would be best.

But I'm still trying to grasp what made you want to run up your wagers so much for that stretch. If you are normally a red/green chipper or 1/2 NLHE player, I would have expected you to pull the plug a bit sooner. Was your biggest bet $10k? Did it get any higher than that?
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September 26th, 2014 at 11:09:05 AM permalink
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September 26th, 2014 at 11:13:35 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

That's the odds of running up 1 unit to 200 when the max bet is only 2 units? Is that the max bet you used in the sim (i.e. $10k)?

some one was paying attention. I like that

I did not simulate this as a calculation in Excel is so so very very very easy to do
using a transition matrix (any doubt?)

and I say is way more impressive than just a simulation alone
because
math is fun!

also, just betting a don't pass (I mentioned nothing about laying odds too)

for the max bet I still use Excel and the answer I gave used no max bet limit
as I wanted to see if any noticed

so with a max bet of 2
(his was higher because of playing 3 hands, double, splits etc)
I get (starting with $1 and a max bet of $2 with 0 odds)

0.000902959 or
1 in 1107.469413
that is on average, 903 blind squirrels out of 1 million cute critters
being successful
see


this example with a max bet of 2x can easily be done just using the Gambler's Ruin formula
starting at 1 unit to 2 units p = 949/1925
now to turn 2 units into 200 (a gain of 198 units ) = 0.1831609%
while flat betting 2 units at a time
just multiply the two values

try it!
it really is fun

added: because you asked
a max bet of 3X(15k)


a max bet of 5X(25k)


a max bet of 10X(50k)

WoW!
only 1 in 287

most would still
think this turning $5k into $1 million is at least a 1 in a million type shot, if not higher
not so

at CP right on the strip, no high limit are required too one can make $50,000 don't pass bets

I'm now impressed (Sally)

yes, I checked this with some code BruceZ wrote for me
remember BruceZ

can't wait to see his new website/blog
I bothered him for years to "get it done"

now the wait is almost over

this was fun!
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September 26th, 2014 at 11:15:57 AM permalink
Quote: SiegfriedRoy

It is better to be lucky than good.

of course this is just your opinion

this sounds even better, imo

"It is better to be lucky and good"

I take this one any day

thank you for sharing

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September 26th, 2014 at 11:43:00 AM permalink
Well, then, SiegRoy, congratulations on your win, and thanks for sharing the story. Really nice to think it can be done.
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September 26th, 2014 at 11:47:39 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Well, then, SiegRoy, congratulations on your win, and thanks for sharing the story.

yes, I second that emotion too
Quote: beachbumbabs

Really nice to think it can be done.

as I did show, way easier than most think

but that is OK as most find it difficult to calculate the actual chances of hitting high win goal targets

Sally is nice

added:
so instead of a 1 in a billion event (or higher)
a 1 in 1107 ain't bad either

(even 2 out of 3 ain't bad)
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September 26th, 2014 at 12:08:34 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Thanks! But there is still more...lol I documented nearly everything! I just didn't release it all at once because it would be a lot to deal with.

And with going back to red/green chip play, I would think going to CET too would be best.

But I'm still trying to grasp what made you want to run up your wagers so much for that stretch. If you are normally a red/green chipper or 1/2 NLHE player, I would have expected you to pull the plug a bit sooner. Was your biggest bet $10k? Did it get any higher than that?



it is like you say things before I get a chance to.

I am basically a red/green player. Even if I was taking a shot and playing black I can not imagine that I would ever get past a 1k bet. Even if I was on a super hot streak and up 200k I don't think I would ever have the balls to bet 5k
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September 26th, 2014 at 12:18:59 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

I am basically a red/green player.
<snip>
Even if I was on a super hot streak and up 200k I don't think I would ever have the balls to bet 5k

really?
This makes so sense to me at all.

if you have a $200 bankroll and are betting $5 each hand that is having 40 units in the bankroll, in other words,
is it hard to bet $5 with a $200 bankroll?
hahaha


betting $5k with a $200k bankroll is identical (same 40 unit bankroll)
it really is the same thing

takes no balls at all

hmmm, what am I missing
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September 26th, 2014 at 12:25:28 PM permalink
Quote: mustangsally

really?
This makes so sense to me at all.

if you have a $200 bankroll and are betting $5 each hand that is having 40 units in the bankroll, in other words,
is it hard to bet $5 with a $200 bankroll?
hahaha


betting $5k with a $200k bankroll is identical (same 40 unit bankroll)
it really is the same thing

takes no balls at all

hmmm, what am I missing
Sally



But you have to detach yourself from the money and not think it is money you are betting. Most would not be able to do that at 200k
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September 26th, 2014 at 12:30:08 PM permalink
It's about the raw amount of money being bet, not the percentage of bankroll. For many people $5,000 is a significant amount of money even if you do have 200k sitting right there.
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September 26th, 2014 at 12:36:15 PM permalink
Quote: wudged

It's about the raw amount of money being bet, not the percentage of bankroll. For many people $5,000 is a significant amount of money even if you do have 200k sitting right there.

I still do not see that

Both players still would have only 40 chips in front of them, being different colors.
stack of red = $5 player
say stack of white for the $5k player


what is so hard, or as you guys say "It takes BALLS", to bet just one chip at a time?

remember both are betting ONLY 1 of their 40 chips

this ball thing must be a male thing
(I hear some females have them too, but not me)

Sally

maybe a photo showing this would bring home the point
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September 26th, 2014 at 12:44:49 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Well, then, SiegRoy, congratulations on your win, and thanks for sharing the story. Really nice to think it can be done.



Thank you very much!
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September 26th, 2014 at 12:45:28 PM permalink
Quote: mustangsally



maybe a photo showing this would bring home the point



I think that would be an instant ban for not keeping it PG.

Your point is very valid about percentage of bankroll.

However, If I am sitting with 40 units of red and lose 50% it is no big deal but if I am sitting on 40 units of 5k chips then losing half is life changing.
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September 26th, 2014 at 12:47:25 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

I think that would be an instant ban for not keeping it PG.

Your point is very valid about percentage of bankroll.

photo coming after lunch time


also added:
now,
both players flat betting would still have the same chance to double their 40 unit bankroll

would one be more impressed by the guy that doubles his 200k bank
or by the girl that doubled her $200 bank
Quote: GWAE

However, If I am sitting with 40 units of red and lose 50% it is no big deal but if I am sitting on 40 units of 5k chips then losing half is life changing.

one should never play scared.
you should not care to lose your bankroll that you are playing with.

I (eye) see this is the problem

see, the value of money should never come into the fun of gambling, imo

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September 26th, 2014 at 12:47:39 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

I think that would be an instant ban for not keeping it PG.

Your point is very valid about percentage of bankroll.

However, If I am sitting with 40 units of red and lose 50% it is no big deal but if I am sitting on 40 units of 5k chips then losing half is life changing.



Because winning or losing $200k would have a dramatic effect on how one lives for most of us, winning or losing $200 is not a big deal. In other words, if you got up to $200k, your emotional bankroll would be far less than $200k even though you have that much in chips.
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September 26th, 2014 at 12:59:01 PM permalink
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September 26th, 2014 at 2:34:18 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

I am basically a red/green player. Even if I was taking a shot and playing black I can not imagine that I would ever get past a 1k bet. Even if I was on a super hot streak and up 200k I don't think I would ever have the balls to bet 5k

I'm a green chip and occasional black chip player and if I ever found myself up 200k, then anything between me and the cage would be in danger of being run over.
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September 26th, 2014 at 4:18:33 PM permalink
Quote: wudged

It's about the raw amount of money being bet, not the percentage of bankroll. For many people $5,000 is a significant amount of money even if you do have 200k sitting right there.



This reminds me of a poignant comment some writer once made, to the effect that the invention of casino chips in lieu of cash has done more to separate bettors from their money that has anything else.

Somehow it's easier to bet (and lose) chips than a stack of greenbacks.

Psychology 101.

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September 26th, 2014 at 4:28:03 PM permalink
Quote: mustangsally

I still do not see that

Both players still would have only 40 chips in front of them, being different colors.
stack of red = $5 player
say stack of white for the $5k player


what is so hard, or as you guys say "It takes BALLS", to bet just one chip at a time?

remember both are betting ONLY 1 of their 40 chips

this ball thing must be a male thing
(I hear some females have them too, but not me)

Sally

maybe a photo showing this would bring home the point



Sally, while what you say is true about being 1/40th of the stack…I think SiegRoy thinks like I do in that you think of the original minimum chip you were betting, say a black chip and that one black chip now turns into 50 black chips, it is, as was stated, the "raw" amount of money the chip represents
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September 26th, 2014 at 4:39:24 PM permalink
Quote: mustangsally



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no one would be impressed with turning $1 into $200
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Sally



Actually that would impress me, not easy to do.

Quote: MrV

This reminds me of a poignant comment some writer once made, to the effect that the invention of casino chips in lieu of cash has done more to separate bettors from their money that has anything else.

Somehow it's easier to bet (and lose) chips than a stack of greenbacks.



I agree, when I'm winning it's much easier to bet big chips than I would if it was cash, it's absolutely a casino advantage to play with chips.
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December 6th, 2014 at 3:18:09 AM permalink
what has happened to Mr. Roy? Tiger got him?

deleted a bunch of posts including his fantastic win and hasn't been back since Nov 9
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December 6th, 2014 at 3:55:52 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

what has happened to Mr. Roy? Tiger got him?

deleted a bunch of posts including his fantastic win and hasn't been back since Nov 9



He deleted the post that he started the thread with. Looking at a post on the first page, it seems Mr Roy turned $2K into $1M without counting. Why delete a great story like that? We grinders need inspiration.
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December 6th, 2014 at 3:58:33 AM permalink
Quote: SiegfriedRoy

I was betting the table max at the Mirage high limit room. 10K a hand up to 3 hands a swing. They did not let me play more than 3 hands in a row. That is what I was playing at the very end. I started with 100 to 200, then I moved to 500 to 1000. When I was up a lot, it was monopoly money so I went to 5k to 10k.



Here's one post that won't disappear.
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December 6th, 2014 at 4:09:26 AM permalink
Quote: 1BB

He deleted the post that he started the thread with. Looking at a post on the first page, it seems Mr Roy turned $2K into $1M without counting. Why delete a great story like that? We grinders need inspiration.

Let's assume his story was true (which I don't, I don't care what his players card shows)

That's not smart to post about it on the forum for many reasons.

He probably got a PM from every Roulette, baccarat system player on the forum.
Is this the guy who let Mike look at his players account?
I wouldn't be surprised if someone swindled him out of it, or he spent it, and he now he still owes taxes. Wondering if Mike could be subpoenaed by the IRS since he looked at the guys players account ?
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December 6th, 2014 at 4:12:26 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Is this the guy who let Mike look at his players account?



yep, don't feel like searching but I'm pretty sure
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December 6th, 2014 at 5:28:47 AM permalink
I'm still here. No I did not get,PM'd. Yes I still have my money. Lost some and won back some on the stock market and now broke even. I am just waiting until the new year to settle my taxes with the IRS. I decided to delete my post because I had a friend who was at the party and saw what I did, and he too decided to go to a casino to try to "go for it." With no real good concept of BJ and BS, of course he lost...close to $5K. I didn't want my story to inspire people who shouldn't be gambling to go lose their rent money as what I did was a rare occasion. That is all.
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December 6th, 2014 at 5:44:25 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Let's assume his story was true (which I don't, I don't care what his players card shows)

He probably got a PM from every Roulette, baccarat system player on the forum.
Is this the guy who let Mike look at his players account?
I wouldn't be surprised if someone swindled him out of it, or he spent it, and he now he still owes taxes. Wondering if Mike could be subpoenaed by the IRS since he looked at the guys players account ?



Haha. You sound like the direct TV commercial. http://youtu.be/kIv3m2gMgUU

You probably wish for your story to be true... Unfortunately for you I am still doing great.
odiousgambit
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December 6th, 2014 at 7:02:36 AM permalink
nobody, I think, *assumes* your story is true, but it is impolite not to sort of go along

your excuse for deletions is a bit lame too

> Lost some and won back some

I'm still biting. No details?
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!”   She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
SiegfriedRoy
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December 6th, 2014 at 7:26:21 AM permalink
Lost around 60k with transocean stocks, won back with cypress semiconductor stocks. I don't care if you guys believe me. It doesn't affect my bankroll or my well being, I'd now rather want people to not believe so that they wouldn't go give their life savings to the casinos. Peace
teddys
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December 6th, 2014 at 8:47:17 AM permalink
Quote: SiegfriedRoy

Lost around 60k with transocean stocks, won back with cypress semiconductor stocks. I don't care if you guys believe me. It doesn't affect my bankroll or my well being, I'd now rather want people to not believe so that they wouldn't go give their life savings to the casinos. Peace

What made you think Transocean was a good bet? I'm not disagreeing with you. Did you think there was a big upside even after they got hit with the Deepwater Horizon debacle?

I believe you. Bet big, win big. Some people just have that inclination. Remember that guy who posted all the cash from the casinos in South Africa, Korea and Macau? Like a worldwide multi-million dollar winning streak.
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
SiegfriedRoy
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December 6th, 2014 at 9:08:43 AM permalink
Yes. I believed there was a big upside when it was around $25 a share. I also believed it had pretty much bottomed out by then. Of course I was wrong. Luckily I cut my losses before it dropped below $20 a share. I was lucky with cypress. If it weren't for the merger, I wouldn't have recovered my Transocean loss.
odiousgambit
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December 6th, 2014 at 9:58:37 AM permalink
Quote: SiegfriedRoy

Lost around 60k with [name doesnt' matter] stocks, won back with [name doesnt' matter] stocks



that's betting big alright
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!”   She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
MrV
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December 6th, 2014 at 10:24:43 AM permalink
Quote: SiegfriedRoy

I decided to delete my post because...I didn't want my story to inspire people who shouldn't be gambling to go lose their rent money as what I did was a rare occasion.



Hmmm, deleting one's post as a public service?

Different result, perhaps, had you not posted such inflammatory material in the first place.

Nothing quite liking stirring up hungry lions with the scent of fresh, bloody meat, is there?
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1BB
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December 6th, 2014 at 1:05:49 PM permalink
R. I. P. Mantecore.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
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