Went for it
No need to show us your win/loss statement, just post a picture of the Highlander. What color did you say it was?
Somebody has to live in the little zone there on the right of the bell-shape. So it's you!
Sounds like with your job, you don't really need the money [altho I bet it comes in handy and you sure know how to spend it, nice!].
I keep telling people, this is the way of the world. The guy who really needs the money to stay out of the homeless shelter, nah, it ain't going to be him.
What was your betting strategy? I assume you raised your bets during hot winning streaks and lowered them during losing streaks.
I know a guy who made a very sizable sum betting the don't all day at craps.... Enough to retire.
Quote: djatcSome random player catching a run on a -ev game happens all the time. The house edge is miniscule enough to swing either way. Congrats to you op.
I know a guy who made a very sizable sum betting the don't all day at craps.... Enough to retire.
This is believable but not my getting a 9 card 21 :smh:
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Quote: aceofspadesThis is believable but not my getting a 9 card blackjack :smh:
or 30 losing hands in a row
Quote: GWAEor 30 losing hands in a row
Exactly!
Quote: GWAEor 30 losing hands in a row
I laughed out loud at that one!
Quote: 1BBI honestly and truly enjoyed this story. What would be your best advice for us wannabees?
No need to show us your win/loss statement, just post a picture of the Highlander. What color did you say it was?
Sorry my Pops lives in California, I live in the East Coast so I don't have a photo. It is a creme color (light gold) highlander with a DVD bluray player in the back. I don't have much of an advice, but I'd say the reason why I got lucky was playing at the right table (s17, rsa, 3/2, surrender) tables to give the house as little of an edge. I also stuck to BS to the teeth. Playing right and at the best tables will give you a better chance in the long run. H17, 6/5, no surrender, no rsa will hurt you without you noticing it.
Quote: drjohnnyAmazing that you were able to turn $2K into $1M without card counting.
What was your betting strategy? I assume you raised your bets during hot winning streaks and lowered them during losing streaks.
My betting strategy was simple. Flatbetting, but playing up to 3 hands when things were going well, and playing 1 hand when things were not going well. However, there weren't a lot of streaks I was doing bad. I basically won 3 times while I lost once. I just got lucky. I will most definitely go back to being a normal player (red chip to green chip). I can't handle the stress.
Quote: SiegfriedRoyMy betting strategy was simple. Flatbetting, but playing up to 3 hands when things were going well, and playing 1 hand when things were not going well.
of course you are correct in saying that there will be doubters ... anyone willing to take it at face value, with half a brain, has to do that with a grain of salt.
so now my initial grain of salt has been supplemented with another grain of salt, well, several, when you say you were flat-betting.
Quote: aceofspadesThis is believable but not my getting a 9 card blackjack :smh:
Now you made me look up smh.
Quote: odiousgambitof course you are correct in saying that there will be doubters ... anyone willing to take it at face value, with half a brain, has to do that with a grain of salt.
so now my initial grain of salt has been supplemented with another grain of salt, well, several, when you say you were flat-betting.
I was betting the table max at the Mirage high limit room. 10K a hand up to 3 hands a swing. They did not let me play more than 3 hands in a row. That is what I was playing at the very end. I started with 100 to 200, then I moved to 500 to 1000. When I was up a lot, it was monopoly money so I went to 5k to 10k.
Quote: aceofspadesThis is believable but not my getting a 9 card blackjack :smh:
It's fiction. It might as well have started with, "Dear Penthouse Forum". Have fun with it. Everybody else is.
Quote: aceofspadesThis is believable but not my getting a 9 card blackjack :smh:
Well a blackjack is typically defined as a 2 card hand of an ace and a 10-value card :)
Not that it was needed, but that was the coup de grâceQuote: odiousgambit
so now my initial grain of salt has been supplemented with another grain of salt, well, several, when you say you were flat-betting.
Quote: beachbumbabsIt's fiction. It might as well have started with, "Dear Penthouse Forum". Have fun with it. Everybody else is.
Haha, I looked for the "like" button!
Quote: beachbumbabsIt's fiction. It might as well have started with, "Dear Penthouse Forum". Have fun with it. Everybody else is.
Beachbumbabs, are you claiming my post is not true or the 9 card 21? If you are saying you don't believe me, I will prove it to you.
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What is she going to go to the casino with you While they print it out??Quote: SiegfriedRoyBeachbumbabs, are you claiming my post is not true or the 9 card 21? If you are saying you don't believe me, I will prove it to you.
Quote: wudgedWell a blackjack is typically defined as a 2 card hand of an ace and a 10-value card :)
Wudged either you are being sarcastic or missed out on an "epic" thread lol
Quote: 1BBNow you made me look up smh.
You learn something new every day :)
Quote: beachbumbabsIt's fiction. It might as well have started with, "Dear Penthouse Forum". Have fun with it. Everybody else is.
Wait a gosh darn minute here! Are you telling me those stories were not true??
They even started with "You might not believe this". I want my $3.95 back!
To hard to prove. Any documents can be faked.Quote: 1BBDon't prove it just yet. The gamblers here are going to want bet on this. This has the makings of a nice long thread. Even better than throwing up chicken nuggets.
Win losses can be wrong.
If I were to bet money on this, the only thing that would be acceptable is being there when the casino made a printout or let you look at the computer screen.
Then I would want to be at the ATM when the person got a receipt with the balance in their bank account. Obviously I would just want to see a large chunk.
I assume there would also be some pit bosses and dealers who would remember this guy.
I don't believe it however I'm a skeptic.
Quote: BozWait a gosh darn minute here! Are you telling me those stories were not true??
They even started with "You might not believe this". I want my $3.95 back!
Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Kramer reads from Penthouse Forum, telling George it is all true LOL (Episode is The Dinner Party — I could not find the clip though)
Quote: aceofspadesWudged either you are being sarcastic or missed out on an "epic" thread lol
I was just ribbing you calling it a "blackjack" instead of a "21"
Quote: AxelWolfTo hard to prove. Any documents can be faked.
Win losses can be wrong.
If I were to bet money on this, the only thing that would be acceptable is being there when the casino made a printout or let you look at the computer screen.
Then I would want to be at the ATM when the person got a receipt with the balance in their bank account. Obviously I would just want to see a large chunk.
I assume there would also be some pit bosses and dealers who would remember this guy.
I don't believe it however I'm a skeptic.
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Next: "I don't care what you believe!"
Quote: MoscaIf this were true, why would anyone come to a forum of complete unknowns and tell it? The only thing that does is exposes you to risk (and mild ridicule, true or not). Just based on the situation, it doesn't make sense. If I did what you claim to do, the only people that would know would be those who were there. But certainly not complete internet strangers... unless I were making it all up, of course.
Next: "I don't care what you believe!"
It's a great true story, and an example of sticking it to the Casino for once. Instead of encouraging each other on feats, you're quick to disclaim it without any whole in my stories. I am a random nobody who played flawless BS and beat them with little bit of luck. I also shot the wizard a PM to see if he is willing to go in and check my account to verify.
Quote: SiegfriedRoyIt's a great true story, and an example of sticking it to the Casino for once. Instead of encouraging each other on feats, you're quick to disclaim it without any whole in my stories. I am a random nobody who played flawless BS and beat them with little bit of luck. I also shot the wizard a PM to see if he is willing to go in and check my account to verify.
Well, thanks for sharing then. Cool story.
Quote: MoscaI'm the Wizard. This is my undercover username.
Don't trust this clown, I'm the real wizard. I have magical powers to beat roulette
Quote: 1BBThis thread may spark the second return of a certain banned member.
I know I am not the banned or self-declared 'inactive' member (still reading) that you were hoping for, but this thread will spark a comment from me.
The OP's post, while a very interesting read, seems most unlikely to me. I am not calling anyone a liar. Fiction/non fiction, use whatever words you want...lol. I play a lot of blackjack....80,000 rounds a year. I see all kinds of swings, both positive and negative, so I know about the volatility of this game. I am not saying, such a run isn't possible. Hey it's possible to run a 3 minute mile. But, I am going to have to see it for me to believe it.
no pics when you've had plenty of warning that you might want pics ... priceless
actually, pricey in the credibility department.
I think the OP should be saying, "I know, I know, I wouldnt believe it either, flat-betting, sheese!"
Quote: odiousgambitit's possible to win the mega-whatever lottery. Somebody does. This seems on that level.
no pics when you've had plenty of warning that you might want pics ... priceless
actually, pricey in the credibility department.
I think the OP should be saying, "I know, I know, I wouldnt believe it either, flat-betting, sheese!"
I clarified that when I said I was flatbetting I was flatbetting $10K a hand up to 3 hands a swing because 10K was the max they let me play. Because i trust the Wizard, I PM'd the Wizard my username and temp password, and he politely responded and agreed to look and verify my claims when he is not preoccupied. Hopefully, he will soon. I don't blame those who do not believe me [yet].
So you started with a couple of thousand and kept running hot session after session and turned it into a mil....because of the table rules? Damn S17 is a powerful thing!Quote: SiegfriedRoyPlaying right and at the best tables will give you a better chance in the long run. H17, 6/5, no surrender, no rsa will hurt you without you noticing it.
Quote: SiegfriedRoyI bought in for $5K and I was on a hot streak. I fought my way up to $200K!
Quote: SiegfriedRoyLong story short, I brought a few thousand and turned it to $290k.
These parts of your story are the hardest to believe.
If your buy-ins were $50K each time I'd have no problem believing these wins, but $5K?
But I suppose it's possible after seeing my friend once go heads up against a dealer and lose only a few hands in an entire shoe. It was a shame he didn't have the guts to bet more than $25-50 per hand.
| Trip/Session | Casino | Starting Bankroll | Buy-In | Cashed Out | Profit | Ending Bankroll |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1/1 | Venetian | $5k | $2k + $2k | $16k | $12k | $17k |
| 2/1 | Venetian | $17k ($4k for trip) | $2k + $1k | $13k | $12k | $27k ($14k for trip) |
| 2/2 | Venetian | $27k ($14k for trip) | ?? | ?? | $10k | $37k ($24k for trip) |
| 2/3 | Mirage | $37k ($24k for trip) | $5k | $200k | $195k | $232k ($219k for trip) |
| 2/4 | Mirage | $232k ($219k for trip) | ?? | ?? | $218k | $450k ($437k for trip) |
| 2/5 | Mirage | $450k ($437k for trip) | $100k | $360k | $260k | $710k ($697k for trip) |
| 3/1 | Mirage | $710k | $2k | $290k | $288k | $988k |
So here's my thoughts-
- On your first trip (1/1), you turned a $4k buy-in into $16k. OK, no problem here, it happens, maybe not that frequently but players quadrupling their buy in isn't out of line.
-Trip 2/1, you turned a $3k buy-in into $13K, same notes as first trip/session
-Trip 2/3, you turned $5k into $200k. That's a 40x increase. Highly unlikely
-Trip 2/5, you turned a $100k buy-in into $360K, again unusual, but not impossible
-Trip 3/1, you turned a $2k buy-in into $290K? This is borderline ridiculous
So, we have three events that are unusual, and two that are very, very unlikely, all happening to the same player in consecutive sessions. You can put me on the doubter side.
Quote: MidwestAPTrip 3/1, you turned a $2k buy-in into $290K? This is borderline ridiculous
OP claimed a "few thousand"... not $2K.
40x increase in bankroll is highly unlikely, but not impossible. I once turned a single black chip into 40 within a single baccarat shoe.
Quote: djatcDon't trust this clown, I'm the real wizard. I have magical powers to beat roulette
WAIT, you are the Wizard and EB?
Quote: MidwestAPSo if I'm following the OP's story, this is what I read over three trips. I took your story as literally as I could in constructing this, as you sometimes mention 'profit' (or won) when you leave the table, while other times notes what you 'fought your way up to' which I implied as cashed out for. Those are two very different values.
Trip/Session Casino Starting Bankroll Buy-In Cashed Out Profit Ending Bankroll 1/1 Venetian $5k $2k + $2k $16k $12k $17k 2/1 Venetian $17k ($4k for trip) $2k + $1k $13k $12k $27k ($14k for trip) 2/2 Venetian $27k ($14k for trip) ?? ?? $10k $37k ($24k for trip) 2/3 Mirage $37k ($24k for trip) $5k $200k $195k $232k ($219k for trip) 2/4 Mirage $232k ($219k for trip) ?? ?? $218k $450k ($437k for trip) 2/5 Mirage $450k ($437k for trip) $100k $360k $260k $710k ($697k for trip) 3/1 Mirage $710k $2k $290k $288k $988k
So here's my thoughts-
- On your first trip (1/1), you turned a $4k buy-in into $16k. OK, no problem here, it happens, maybe not that frequently but players quadrupling their buy in isn't out of line.
-Trip 2/1, you turned a $3k buy-in into $13K, same notes as first trip/session
-Trip 2/3, you turned $5k into $200k. That's a 40x increase. Highly unlikely
-Trip 2/5, you turned a $100k buy-in into $360K, again unusual, but not impossible
-Trip 3/1, you turned a $2k buy-in into $290K? This is borderline ridiculous
So, we have three events that are unusual, and two that are very, very unlikely, all happening to the same player in consecutive sessions. You can put me on the doubter side.
Wow Midwest impressive...that chart is pretty much it. This sounds like a crazy story, and it is...but it really happened. I am going to go on radio silence until the Wizard looks at my account. I am also cool with him posting my win/loss statement as long as my name or private info gets blacked out. But I can't blame you for not believing (yet)!
Quote: 1BBI detect skepticism from the non believers. Do you think ROY just came here to toot his own HORN?
That's good. You know what they say about white tigers, once you've seen one, you've seen them maul!
Quote: MidwestAP
Trip/Session Casino Starting Bankroll Buy-In Cashed Out Profit Ending Bankroll 1/1 Venetian $5k $2k + $2k $16k $12k $17k 2/1 Venetian $17k ($4k for trip) $2k + $1k $13k $12k $27k ($14k for trip) 2/2 Venetian $27k ($14k for trip) ?? ?? $10k $37k ($24k for trip) 2/3 Mirage $37k ($24k for trip) $5k $200k $195k $232k ($219k for trip) 2/4 Mirage $232k ($219k for trip) ?? ?? $218k $450k ($437k for trip) 2/5 Mirage $450k ($437k for trip) $100k $360k $260k $710k ($697k for trip) 3/1 Mirage $710k $2k $290k $288k $988k
the wizard can probably come up with the odds of this happening, based on the chart
*roughly* it looks like, *very* generously, just to throw guesses around,
1/20 * 1/20 * 1/10 * 1/1000 * 1/100 * 1/5 * 1/10000
= 0.00000000000005
one in 20 000 000 000 000 [20 trillion]
generously
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