outlawslaw
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September 10th, 2014 at 1:44:41 AM permalink
First id like to say i loved the read on Laughlin its been one of my favorite places for nearly 30 years.
Just last month i went up there with a friend from Lake Havasu was going to show her 21 yr old daughter
how to play some table games. After 10 mins upon arriving at the AVI casino i was waiting on the girls
and put a twenty in a X5 1 dollare slot machine i bet one coin at a time on the 8th coin hit a $2000 jackpot
then found out i had left my drivers license in my car back in Lake Havasu city... so the girls stayed i took her car
and drove back got my car and license and was back in no time to collect.

We continued our evening by going to Riverside edgewater, pinoneer, golden nugget and finally Harrahs before driving home.
great time. Didnt realize till later that it was an Indian casino. Being from San Diego they are everywhere.
thanks for this great site. Good luck to all

Ron S
Not the first time ive heard that today....
FrostieFingerz
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September 17th, 2014 at 1:06:33 PM permalink
Sounds like you had fun!
Out of interest, is an Indian casino different from a normal casino? (I'm not from the US)
Thanks!
Dieter
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September 17th, 2014 at 1:38:55 PM permalink
Quote: FrostieFingerz

is an Indian casino different from a normal casino?



Yes and no.

Indian casinos can operate due to tribal sovereignty. If a state doesn't allow gambling in general, the tribe - as an independent nation - can often override that law on their land. So, I couldn't open up a casino, but the tribe can - I'm not a sovereign entity, but they are.

The regulatory agency that oversees the operation of the casino is often the tribe itself, rather than a state agency. This might mean that they overlook some infractions. Any disputes might end up in tribal court, rather than state or federal court.

The main concern is generally that the regulators, arbiters, and judges may not be impartial in the event of a dispute.

Fundamentally, however, slot machines are slot machines and cash is cash. You stick some money in the slot machine, you hit the button, maybe you get some back.
May the cards fall in your favor.
outlawslaw
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September 21st, 2014 at 10:48:45 PM permalink
The biggest difference you notice right off is the way they play Craps and Roulette you still throw dice in craps but then cards are turned over to the corresponding numbers on the dice and same with the wheel once the ball lands on a number cards are used to determine the winner. I was told thats cause we were in California.. And thank you yes i did have fun!!!!
Not the first time ive heard that today....
Pokeraddict
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September 21st, 2014 at 11:19:09 PM permalink
Quote: Dieter

Yes and no.

Indian casinos can operate due to tribal sovereignty. If a state doesn't allow gambling in general, the tribe - as an independent nation - can often override that law on their land. So, I couldn't open up a casino, but the tribe can - I'm not a sovereign entity, but they are.



Tribes must have a gaming compact with the state to open a casino that spreads games not available commercially within state lines. They cannot just open a casino unless the games are already legal elsewhere in the state.
MrV
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September 22nd, 2014 at 12:16:49 AM permalink
Quote: outlawslaw

The biggest difference you notice right off is the way they play Craps and Roulette you still throw dice in craps but then cards are turned over to the corresponding numbers on the dice and same with the wheel once the ball lands on a number cards are used to determine the winner. I was told thats cause we were in California..



And you were told correctly.

California tribal casinos use cards in their craps games.

No other tribal casinos in the other states use cards for craps.

The casinos in Oregon are "normal," i.e. akin to the ones in Las Vegas, but without a sports book.
"What, me worry?"
beachbumbabs
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September 22nd, 2014 at 2:07:32 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

And you were told correctly.

California tribal casinos use cards in their craps games.

No other tribal casinos in the other states use cards for craps.

The casinos in Oregon are "normal," i.e. akin to the ones in Las Vegas, but without a sports book.



Actually, Florida tribal casinos have offered craps with cards, and I think they still do. They're not allowed to deal live dice games.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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September 22nd, 2014 at 2:56:37 AM permalink
As an Indian casino, AVI does not share in the usual Laughlin advertising so maps and signs often ignore the Indian casino, but it sounds as if you enjoyed your visit and it seems to have been a profitable one. I think you might have studied the slot machine a bit before plugging in coins, but that is up to you.

One thing about Indian casinos is they are not always subject to the same reporting requirements so less information about their games may be available. If you like real craps and roulette then Nevada is just fine for you, but the state of California prevents anything from being determined solely by a toss of a die.

Laughlin has the reputation of a place for the Geritol set but also a place where the crowds and drunken idiocy of the strip are joyfully lacking.
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