100xOdds
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August 25th, 2015 at 10:23:18 AM permalink
Quote: Dieter

Part of DSTP is if you get a dealt royal and a multiplier triggers, you get 20x.



wait.. in a casino's dstp, if you get a dealt royal and there's a multiplier, it's ALWAYS 20x?
how much more +EV is that?

and how about regular STP?
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Ibeatyouraces
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August 25th, 2015 at 10:24:08 AM permalink
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If you can find a way to cash out, then you're onto something.


Yea...
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Dieter
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August 25th, 2015 at 12:09:58 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

Quote: Dieter

Part of DSTP is if you get a dealt royal and a multiplier triggers, you get 20x.



wait.. in a casino's dstp, if you get a dealt royal and there's a multiplier, it's ALWAYS 20x?
how much more +EV is that?

and how about regular STP?



Snagged from videopoker.com ...



If a deal multiplier is awarded on a dealt natural royal, both multipliers are immediately awarded at 10x, for a total of 20x.

Supposedly, each multiplier hits 1 out of 15 times. So, for every 15 dealt royals you get, 1 should pay quite handsomely. It's theoretically possible that the deal multiplier will miss, but the draw multiplier will still hit without it. I haven't met anyone who landed this, however.

I meet a lot of people playing DSTP; only one of them said he ever got the dealt royal with 20x. $20k hit on 5 line nickels.
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Dieter
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August 25th, 2015 at 12:11:19 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

and how about regular STP?



Nothing fancy in STP. DSTP only.
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tringlomane
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August 25th, 2015 at 12:43:48 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Quote: Dieter

Part of DSTP is if you get a dealt royal and a multiplier triggers, you get 20x.


Right, I know that. But on the app, this is not always the case as seen here.



That's probably a bug. It probably should say
"Draw 3X" not "Deal 3X". You're still allowed to receive a normal draw multiplier if you miss the deal multiplier. For the longest time they had a bug with that graphic. It used to do something like this on any drawmultiplier. This is a snippet from an email I wrote support when the app first came out.


3) On Double Super Times Pay, if the player receives a draw multiplier, the deal multiplier from a previous hand is also displayed in the box above the Double Super Times Pay box.

For example, if you got a deal multiplier of 4x on hand 1 and a draw multiplier of 5X on hand 2. The box above the Double STP box will say: "Deal 4x Draw 5x" instead of just "Draw 5x". The main Double STP box just will say 5x, and the game does evaluate the win properly.

They took over a year to bother to fix that error.


Quote: 100xOdds

Quote: Dieter

Part of DSTP is if you get a dealt royal and a multiplier triggers, you get 20x.



wait.. in a casino's dstp, if you get a dealt royal and there's a multiplier, it's ALWAYS 20x?
how much more +EV is that?

and how about regular STP?



That feature (dealt royal with deal multiplier auto awarding 20X) adds about 0.11%. The odds are 1 in 9.74M. If you get a draw multiplier you do not get 20X. This feature doesn't exist for STP. The feature was added to meet every state gaming board requirement that the highest awarded prize must occur more often than (blah). (blah) is 1 in 50M in most states.

These rules are also why STP offers 10/6/5 Double Bonus instead the usual 9/7/5 DB. A 10X royal at 9/7/5 DB is greater than 1 in 17M, which would make a few jurisdictions illegal. 10/6/5 is closer to 1 in 15.8M because 4 to a flush doesn't always beat 3 to a royal.

Overall DSTP adds about 0.5%. STP adds about 0.28%.
Ibeatyouraces
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August 25th, 2015 at 1:02:54 PM permalink
It WAS a deal multiplier, not a draw one.
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tringlomane
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August 25th, 2015 at 1:25:08 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

It WAS a deal multiplier, not a draw one.



So the animation occurred before all five cards appeared?

Still a bug though regardless. Hopefully the casino game isn't bugged like that. I think a lot of players are unaware of the "jackpot feature", so they wouldn't argue if the machine gave a deal of less than 20x.
Ibeatyouraces
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August 25th, 2015 at 2:46:27 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

So the animation occurred before all five cards appeared?

Still a bug though regardless. Hopefully the casino game isn't bugged like that. I think a lot of players are unaware of the "jackpot feature", so they wouldn't argue if the machine gave a deal of less than 20x.


Yes it occurred before any cards dealt.
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Ibeatyouraces
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August 26th, 2015 at 12:18:57 PM permalink
6x on UX last night. Not mine...




Earlier in the, night a lady had a dealt royal in clubs on either STP or DSTP no multiplier though and no picture :-(
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August 26th, 2015 at 2:12:01 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Yea...

YOU paid for a video poker app?!
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