minimizing losses?
The game is baccarat and I'm betting the player with a 1-1-5-15-25-50 betting ladder or 5-5-15-30-60-120 if the min is $5.
I always stay stay at the house min on winning bets and move up on losing bets. Is this betting system asking for trouble. My main goal is minimizing losses not winning big. Thus i get to sit and drink beer all the time.
Usually if I get up high in the ladder I have enough winnings earned to help out.
Quote: rayray83So you play every single hand and increase your bet after a loss? It seems by doing that you are playing each time to win the $5 then start over back to the table min as soon as you win the $5. Seems like the martingale system which could rake you dry at any time. Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems that way to me.
yes this system has low returns and like you said it seems that at any given time it could set you up for a huge loss. but the odds of the banker theoretically at least winning is I believe 1%. I forget the exact number. Playing for about an hour always seems to yield me a few hundred dollars with 1-2 scares in there.
I really just go to drink beer and not win.
I'm going back to vegas in june and plan on trying this strategy again.
I'm playing different software and at home to test out my luck.
It seems to me to have minimal risk, but minimal gains and if you do lose, you will lose prettty big for the gains you get.
A progression on a loss tends to lower the number of losing sessions, at the expense of increasing the amount lost when you do.
Quote: thecesspitAre you trying to minimize the number of losing sessions, or minimize the amount you lose?
A progression on a loss tends to lower the number of losing sessions, at the expense of increasing the amount lost when you do.
well i don't go to vegas that often, so I guess I'm trying to minimize the number of losses. I mean this isn't a strategy to win a lot of money and like you said, when you lose you lose big(not that big as I call it a quit after I reach $250-$500 single bet loss, or that is the plan). But it seems that the MAJORITY of the time, I come out even or about $100-$200 up after about an hour to 2 hours of play. Plus the 2-4 beers per hour i'm drinking if the service is good.
Quote: dallasboycowwell i don't go to vegas that often, so I guess I'm trying to minimize the number of losses. I mean this isn't a strategy to win a lot of money and like you said, when you lose you lose big(not that big as I call it a quit after I reach $250-$500 single bet loss, or that is the plan). But it seems that the MAJORITY of the time, I come out even or about $100-$200 up after about an hour to 2 hours of play. Plus the 2-4 beers per hour i'm drinking if the service is good.
i wish i could plug it into a simulator. so far outside the casino setting, I've ran 7 test sessions. I have a bankroll of $1000 and use a 5-5-15-30-60-100(max bet). I stop at $1100. havent ended up below $1100 yet. I'm going to run about 13 more test sessions. I know this isn't enough but it does seem to have less losing sessions, and the most I could lose at one time is $1000.
Quote: dallasboycowi wish i could plug it into a simulator. so far outside the casino setting, I've ran 7 test sessions. I have a bankroll of $1000 and use a 5-5-15-30-60-100(max bet). I stop at $1100. havent ended up below $1100 yet. I'm going to run about 13 more test sessions. I know this isn't enough but it does seem to have less losing sessions, and the most I could lose at one time is $1000.
ok just finished several more sessions. just ate $1000 in about 5 minutes. banker hit like 12 out of 14 hands in a row. Glad that wasn't in vegas although I'd still be up a small amount if I counted all the other sessions.
theC, the OP just loves to drink.Quote: thecesspitAre you trying to minimize the number of losing sessions, or minimize the amount you lose?
A progression on a loss tends to lower the number of losing sessions, at the expense of increasing the amount lost when you do.
So do all problem drinkers.
He says he only wants to drink. "I really just go to drink beer and not win. "
and he plays NOT to win but wants to lose less. Makes no sense.
Neither does the intelligent ramblings of a problem drinker make any sense to a non drinker.
OP posts about a betting system, a progression, in a SAFE Betting System forum.
He is safe just asking the probability of winning using his *losing less* betting progression.
I do not know what he fears about coming out and asking the obvious.
He "i wish i could plug it into a simulator".
Very simple to do IF you have one.
Problem is, OP does not ask what he wants to see.
IF he really does not want to win and only drink, then min bet on Banker shall do the trick.
Otherwise he should fear a Banker run of 6 or more.
Banker Win Streaks
About a 43.5% probability of losing at least one progression per 8 deck shoe.
A little high school math can then go a long way
Quote: 7crapstheC, the OP just loves to drink.
So do all problem drinkers.
He says he only wants to drink. "I really just go to drink beer and not win. "
and he plays NOT to win but wants to lose less. Makes no sense.
Neither does the intelligent ramblings of a problem drinker make any sense to a non drinker.
OP posts about a betting system, a progression, in a SAFE Betting System forum.
He is safe just asking the probability of winning using his *losing less* betting progression.
I do not know what he fears about coming out and asking the obvious.
He "i wish i could plug it into a simulator".
Very simple to do IF you have one.
Problem is, OP does not ask what he wants to see.
problem drinker? you retard I hardly ever drink but when I go to vegas I go to have a good time. Is that not my own prerogative.
and since when do you see baccarat simulators all over the internet?
It makes no since to lose less? ummmm google betting "minimizing losses" and there are 65,000 posts. I think that's a pretty popular post.
I don't bash you so if you don't want to contribute, go elsewhere.
I have calculus 1,2,3, differential equations, linear math, the origins of geometry. Think i know my math. And as I already said, the probability of the banker hitting 6-7 hands in a row is less than 1 percent for 7. Thats pretty good odds don't you think that 99/100 times you won't make it that far?
IF he really does not want to win and only drink, then min bet on Banker shall do the trick.
Otherwise he should fear a Banker run of 6 or more.
Banker Win Streaks
About a 43.5% probability of losing at least one progression per 8 deck shoe.
A little high school math can then go a long way
Quote: dallasboycowQuote: 7crapstheC, the OP just loves to drink.
So do all problem drinkers.
He says he only wants to drink. "I really just go to drink beer and not win. "
and he plays NOT to win but wants to lose less. Makes no sense.
Neither does the intelligent ramblings of a problem drinker make any sense to a non drinker.
OP posts about a betting system, a progression, in a SAFE Betting System forum.
He is safe just asking the probability of winning using his *losing less* betting progression.
I do not know what he fears about coming out and asking the obvious.
He "i wish i could plug it into a simulator".
Very simple to do IF you have one.
Problem is, OP does not ask what he wants to see.
IF he really does not want to win and only drink, then min bet on Banker shall do the trick.
Otherwise he should fear a Banker run of 6 or more.
Banker Win Streaks
About a 43.5% probability of losing at least one progression per 8 deck shoe.
A little high school math can then go a long way
problem drinker? you retard I hardly ever drink but when I go to vegas I go to have a good time. Is that not my own prerogative.
and since when do you see baccarat simulators all over the internet?
It makes no since to lose less? ummmm google betting "minimizing losses" and there are 65,000 posts. I think that's a pretty popular post.
I don't bash you so if you don't want to contribute, go elsewhere.
I have calculus 1,2,3, differential equations, linear math, the origins of geometry. Think i know my math.
for 6 decks it's a less than 1 percent chance so it seems high that it is like 12 for 8 decks. I'll have to do the math. If so you may be right that it is damn risky. I think the risk for the banker hitting 12 in a row is less than 1 %. that link is the only one i've ever seen with those odds. most say it's .04 percents for 8 shoes and .01 i think for 6.
You must get some funny looks and comments from other Bac players betting a progression on the Player side only.Quote: dallasboycowIf so you may be right that it is damn risky. I think the risk for the banker hitting 12 in a row is less than 1 %. that link is the only one i've ever seen with those odds. most say it's .04 percents for 8 shoes and .01 i think for 6.
I see 12 in a row Banker wins has a very low probability.
But that should not be your concern.
What about losing one progression, then winning one or two, then losing again.
or even 2 out of 5 or even losing 2 out of 10.
Now that points your bankroll to a down hill slide, not up.
That should happen way more times than a long Banker win streak.
That would be a simple Binomial distribution problem.
Sally
added: seems to me that your method is not that risky if you are willing to lose.
Quote: dallasboycowQuote: dallasboycowQuote: 7crapstheC, the OP just loves to drink.
So do all problem drinkers.
He says he only wants to drink. "I really just go to drink beer and not win. "
and he plays NOT to win but wants to lose less. Makes no sense.
Neither does the intelligent ramblings of a problem drinker make any sense to a non drinker.
OP posts about a betting system, a progression, in a SAFE Betting System forum.
He is safe just asking the probability of winning using his *losing less* betting progression.
I do not know what he fears about coming out and asking the obvious.
He "i wish i could plug it into a simulator".
Very simple to do IF you have one.
Problem is, OP does not ask what he wants to see.
IF he really does not want to win and only drink, then min bet on Banker shall do the trick.
Otherwise he should fear a Banker run of 6 or more.
Banker Win Streaks
About a 43.5% probability of losing at least one progression per 8 deck shoe.
A little high school math can then go a long way
problem drinker? you retard I hardly ever drink but when I go to vegas I go to have a good time. Is that not my own prerogative.
and since when do you see baccarat simulators all over the internet?
It makes no since to lose less? ummmm google betting "minimizing losses" and there are 65,000 posts. I think that's a pretty popular post.
I don't bash you so if you don't want to contribute, go elsewhere.
I have calculus 1,2,3, differential equations, linear math, the origins of geometry. Think i know my math.
for 6 decks it's a less than 1 percent chance so it seems high that it is like 12 for 8 decks. I'll have to do the math. If so you may be right that it is damn risky. I think the risk for the banker hitting 12 in a row is less than 1 %. that link is the only one i've ever seen with those odds. most say it's .04 percents for 8 shoes and .01 i think for 6.
This may be a new record! On the very first day you join the forum, you call a long standing member a retard and tell him to go somewhere else. Why not? Maybe you'll get away with it.
Just don't make any racist remarks. Leave that to the pros.
