Selling a Winning Strategy
May 11th, 2011 at 2:51:54 PM
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I have a blackjack strategy that I believe is lucrative, but I do not have the bankroll now to fund it. I not looking for buyers on this forum; I'm only looking for ideas.
I realize that many do not believe that what I am saying is possible, but I am not asking for discussions about the merit of my strategy.
What I need are ideas about how to sell my strategy. I know I could write a book, etc. But there has to be an easier way, especially if my strategy is as profitble as I believe - especially for high rollers. I could place ads on Craigslist under "Businesses for Sale," or I could auction it off on E-Bay. Any other ideas would be welcomed?
I realize that many do not believe that what I am saying is possible, but I am not asking for discussions about the merit of my strategy.
What I need are ideas about how to sell my strategy. I know I could write a book, etc. But there has to be an easier way, especially if my strategy is as profitble as I believe - especially for high rollers. I could place ads on Craigslist under "Businesses for Sale," or I could auction it off on E-Bay. Any other ideas would be welcomed?
May 11th, 2011 at 2:53:30 PM
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Why not lose your own money with this wonderful strategy ????
May 11th, 2011 at 2:56:05 PM
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By the way, I can demonstrate the validity of my strategy by betting with "fake money" on online blackjack websites and showing how much I win. Or, a professional dealer could be hired, and I could use non-tradionally colored chips (that initially only I know the value of) to bet with, and after a certain time period we could see how much I have won.
May 11th, 2011 at 2:59:59 PM
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Hi Buzz Paff,
As I said, I don't have the money to sustain the low swings, especially because I am not wanting to bet on every single hand of a shoe - only on select hands. So, it takes a long time for the advantage to assert itself. This is why my strategy is suited for high rollers. Remember, I still have the advantage, but one must be very patient if using a small bankroll.
Again, any ideas besides "why don't you use it yourself" are welcomed please.
As I said, I don't have the money to sustain the low swings, especially because I am not wanting to bet on every single hand of a shoe - only on select hands. So, it takes a long time for the advantage to assert itself. This is why my strategy is suited for high rollers. Remember, I still have the advantage, but one must be very patient if using a small bankroll.
Again, any ideas besides "why don't you use it yourself" are welcomed please.
May 11th, 2011 at 3:01:27 PM
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Quote: StevenBlackBy the way, I can demonstrate the validity of my strategy by betting with "fake money" on online blackjack websites and showing how much I win. Or, a professional dealer could be hired, and I could use non-tradionally colored chips (that initially only I know the value of) to bet with, and after a certain time period we could see how much I have won.
Why not use your own money? Just start at $1 or $2 tables, and work your way up until you can afford to use your system at higher-denominated tables.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
May 11th, 2011 at 3:03:20 PM
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Quote: StevenBlackI am not wanting to bet on every single hand of a shoe - only on select hands. So, it takes a long time for the advantage to assert itself. This is why my strategy is suited for high rollers.
If your strategy is based in any way on the idea that a player can enter and exit a shoe at will in a high-stakes live blackjack game, I think you'll be disappointed by the reality that this is a behavior that is very much frowned upon.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
May 11th, 2011 at 3:11:21 PM
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Quote: StevenBlackI am not wanting to bet on every single hand of a shoe - only on select hands.
Any strategy that you would want to sell must be able to be played at real casinos. You will not be able to come in and out of a shoe without eventually being refused the right to play. It sounds as if your 'strategy' is some form of card counting, which is nothing new. I think you will have a difficult time selling it if you have never actually done it for real in a casino. But good luck.
May 12th, 2011 at 6:31:37 AM
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Thank you all for your replies. I appreciate it.
May 12th, 2011 at 6:41:20 AM
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Wow - thanks rdw4potus. I didn't realize anyone offered $1 or $2 tables. I'm going to post in the "Blackjack" forum on this site and ask further about this. Thanks so much! With lots of time and patience, I can work my way up - definitely.
May 12th, 2011 at 6:51:32 AM
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No need to re-post. Members here tend to check all the forums, or just use the "recent posts" link.
Some casinos offer < $5 tables - but require a 25¢ ante.
There may be casinos that offer it without the ante. Sahara offers no ante $1 tables, but pays BJ at 1:1. Then again, that info will only be helpful for another 3 days...
Some casinos offer < $5 tables - but require a 25¢ ante.
There may be casinos that offer it without the ante. Sahara offers no ante $1 tables, but pays BJ at 1:1. Then again, that info will only be helpful for another 3 days...
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May 12th, 2011 at 6:51:59 AM
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You can make four dollars an hour as a pornslapper. Save up your earnings and play at any low minimum you can find.
If your system works for "special chips" it works for ordinary chips.
If your system is going to work for others, its going to work for you. So invest your money and when you buy The Venetian let us know.
If your system works for "special chips" it works for ordinary chips.
If your system is going to work for others, its going to work for you. So invest your money and when you buy The Venetian let us know.
May 12th, 2011 at 6:54:31 AM
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Thanks DJTeddyBear. But what do you mean by "ante." I've never heard that term used with respect to blackjack, only poker. Do you mean the actual bet is $1.25: $1.00 bet plus $0.25 ante?
May 12th, 2011 at 6:59:28 AM
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If you have worked out positive EV, use your own money. You should bone up on the Kelly Criterion at the wiz of odds site.
If you think you are beating a house edge by a betting system, write a book instead and by no means use your own money. Good luck with the book.
If you think you are beating a house edge by a betting system, write a book instead and by no means use your own money. Good luck with the book.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
May 12th, 2011 at 7:05:10 AM
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Pornslapper? :)
No, the idea of special chips is to conceal the nuts and bolts of how I am employing my system for a potential buyer. We hire a professional dealer, and I play "privately," for no real money, in a hotel room. I may use bet with a black chip (which of course is usually $100) on a few hands. But instead of the chip being worth $100, I may have deemed its value (on a piece of paper before play began) as $10. Not even the dealer needs to know the value I have ascribed to the various chips. (All the dealer would need to know is what colored chip equals half of another chip in the event that I get blackjack.). Then, after days of play, I reveal to the potential buyer the value of each colored chip as I have deemed them, and we can see how much I won.
If I do say so myself, I thought this was a particularly clever way to demonstrate the validity of a "system" without revealing its nuts and bolts. I thought of it on the way to work one day.
Yes, I will let you all know if I make it big. You all have been a help so far. For some reason, the users of the forums on this website seem more friendly and less rude than the users of the forums on another particular blackjack site I had been frequenting - so thank you!
No, the idea of special chips is to conceal the nuts and bolts of how I am employing my system for a potential buyer. We hire a professional dealer, and I play "privately," for no real money, in a hotel room. I may use bet with a black chip (which of course is usually $100) on a few hands. But instead of the chip being worth $100, I may have deemed its value (on a piece of paper before play began) as $10. Not even the dealer needs to know the value I have ascribed to the various chips. (All the dealer would need to know is what colored chip equals half of another chip in the event that I get blackjack.). Then, after days of play, I reveal to the potential buyer the value of each colored chip as I have deemed them, and we can see how much I won.
If I do say so myself, I thought this was a particularly clever way to demonstrate the validity of a "system" without revealing its nuts and bolts. I thought of it on the way to work one day.
Yes, I will let you all know if I make it big. You all have been a help so far. For some reason, the users of the forums on this website seem more friendly and less rude than the users of the forums on another particular blackjack site I had been frequenting - so thank you!
May 12th, 2011 at 7:19:46 AM
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Your plan could work on a 'mark'. If you get one to participate, and your system bombs, that guy is going to scratch his head. The next guy, however, might see your system make a fortune over what would seem like a large number of trials to him [or the typical person] but which actually is a woefully inadequate number of trials. That guy might go for it hook, line, and sinker.
So your challenge would be to line up enough prospects, and to decide if you can live with yourself. Also, you need to have a quick way to get out of town without a trace. Check with a lawyer too.
So your challenge would be to line up enough prospects, and to decide if you can live with yourself. Also, you need to have a quick way to get out of town without a trace. Check with a lawyer too.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
May 12th, 2011 at 8:30:59 AM
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This thread is some sort of joke right?
I am thinking of selling these
Useless Machines
I am thinking of selling these
Useless Machines
http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/10042-woes-black-sheep-game-ii/#post151727
May 12th, 2011 at 8:34:59 AM
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Nope, no joke Wizard of England.
May 12th, 2011 at 9:20:29 AM
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I think the general consensus is that a blackjack system could be profitable. After all, playing blackjack could be a positive expectation game if you count cards, or cheat.
However, in order for you to sell your strategy, you must be able to prove your success in a real casino. After all, real casinos have other challenges that online fake money games don't have. Like pit boss breathing down your neck if you win too much money, or being blacklisted if you are really too good.
Many blackjack books talk about "cover" or ways to stay undetected by casinos while you work your system. You may want to think about this too.
Now, even if you kill the $1 to $5 tables in a real casino, (and remember, these tend to have a HUGE house advantage with poor rules for blackjack) no one will take you seriously enough to buy your system until you start destroying the $100 (or higher) tables. These tend to have a lot of heat from casino staff and the eye in the sky to make sure that you are not cheating. With your wins and losses recorded in a computer, casinos will have a good idea if you are beating the house, and stop you from playing there. And casinos will talk to one another about blackjack counters.
Let's say that you are able to tackle all of the above challenges and still win. Well, if you are destroying the $100 table, I would strongly suggest to keep playing blackjack yourself instead of wasting time selling your system to someone else.
Blackjack can be a positive investment game. There are already many books on how to make money through card counting, and many books about maintaining your cover to hide from casinos' heat. I would believe that as technology improves, it will get harder and harder to beat casino blackjack, though I am no expert.
Best of luck to you. In general this forum is skeptical, but the members here will give you honest answers. Kind of like tough love.
However, in order for you to sell your strategy, you must be able to prove your success in a real casino. After all, real casinos have other challenges that online fake money games don't have. Like pit boss breathing down your neck if you win too much money, or being blacklisted if you are really too good.
Many blackjack books talk about "cover" or ways to stay undetected by casinos while you work your system. You may want to think about this too.
Now, even if you kill the $1 to $5 tables in a real casino, (and remember, these tend to have a HUGE house advantage with poor rules for blackjack) no one will take you seriously enough to buy your system until you start destroying the $100 (or higher) tables. These tend to have a lot of heat from casino staff and the eye in the sky to make sure that you are not cheating. With your wins and losses recorded in a computer, casinos will have a good idea if you are beating the house, and stop you from playing there. And casinos will talk to one another about blackjack counters.
Let's say that you are able to tackle all of the above challenges and still win. Well, if you are destroying the $100 table, I would strongly suggest to keep playing blackjack yourself instead of wasting time selling your system to someone else.
Blackjack can be a positive investment game. There are already many books on how to make money through card counting, and many books about maintaining your cover to hide from casinos' heat. I would believe that as technology improves, it will get harder and harder to beat casino blackjack, though I am no expert.
Best of luck to you. In general this forum is skeptical, but the members here will give you honest answers. Kind of like tough love.
May 12th, 2011 at 9:26:11 AM
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Ofcourse. Just how profitable usually depends on how much you sell if for and how many suckers you rope in.Quote: gamblerI think the general consensus is that a blackjack system could be profitable.
This guy wants to hire a dealer and rent a hotel room... fine. That money right there is enough of a stake at the blackjack tables. Go for it.
May 12th, 2011 at 11:15:36 AM
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Quote: odiousgambitYour plan could work on a 'mark'.
The whole trick is to work out the way to switch the piece of paper where the values for the chips are written without the mark noticing it.
"When two people always agree one of them is unnecessary"
May 12th, 2011 at 11:52:35 AM
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Quote: weaselmanThe whole trick is to work out the way to switch the piece of paper where the values for the chips are written without the mark noticing it.
The old switch-eroo
Classic
http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/10042-woes-black-sheep-game-ii/#post151727
May 12th, 2011 at 1:55:12 PM
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Quote: weaselmanThe whole trick is to work out the way to switch the piece of paper where the values for the chips are written without the mark noticing it.
Yes, of course *slaps forehead*
very good
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
May 12th, 2011 at 2:25:38 PM
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Mae West: Is poker a game of chance?W.C. Fields: Not the way I play it. — My Little Chickadee
May 12th, 2011 at 7:25:43 PM
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Yep. Maybe "ante" isn't the correct term. Perhaps "surcharge" or "seat-charge" is more appropriate.Quote: StevenBlackThanks DJTeddyBear. But what do you mean by "ante." I've never heard that term used with respect to blackjack, only poker. Do you mean the actual bet is $1.25: $1.00 bet plus $0.25 ante?
I know this is going on at Resorts in A.C. and has started to spread to other A.C. casinos.
It's a $1 table, but you must pay 25¢ per betting position in order to be dealt in. And they frown upon sitting out. That's 25¢ regardless if the hand wins, looses or pushes. One minor relief: I'm told that you do NOT have to pay again to split pairs.
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http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
Superstitions are silly, childish, irrational rituals, born out of fear of the unknown. But how much does it cost to knock on wood? 😁
May 12th, 2011 at 7:39:24 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearYep. Maybe "ante" isn't the correct term. Perhaps "surcharge" or "seat-charge" is more appropriate.
The Indian casinos in San Diego used to have this surcharge. I think they abandoned it in favor of 6:5 blackjack.
May 14th, 2011 at 4:49:51 PM
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Except that I don't accept challenges for blackjack, because blackjack can be beaten by counting cards, and because blackjack sims are a pain to program. I could accept blackjack but disallow card-counting systems, but disallowing blackjack altogether cuts down on the number of whiners. (Though not completely -- just today someone wrote to ask if I accept blackjack even though the rules state clearly what games are allowed and not to ask for anything not contained in the rules).
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May 14th, 2011 at 6:17:36 PM
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Quote: waltomealI'd start here.
$30,000 should get you going. If that's not enough, I'm guessing that an endorsement from Bluejay would bring you all the buyers you'll need.
If you had a system that could win, you would essentially be selling it to Mr Bluejay for a paltry 30K. He's the one that has to understand it well enough to program it, he would know it as well as you by the time it was over. It doesn't surprise me there have been no takers.
Number 8 in the contest explanation says: "Since the first would-be challenger who wrote to me was concerned that I would use his winning system in the casinos myself to capitalize on it, I promise in writing to do no such thing."
Thats fine, but its also meaningless. I could change one small thing of somebody's system and get out of what I promised. I'm not at all saying Mr Bluejay would do this. What I am saying is I would have to assume I was selling my winning system for 30K. You can't patent a gambling system, so once somebody else has it, for all intents and purposes, its no longer under your control. Challenges like this don't prove winning systems don't exist, they just prove anybody who has one isn't going to part with it.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
May 14th, 2011 at 8:55:09 PM
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Quote: EvenBobWhat I am saying is I would have to assume I was selling my winning system for 30K. You can't patent a gambling system, so once somebody else has it, for all intents and purposes, its no longer under your control. Challenges like this don't prove winning systems don't exist, they just prove anybody who has one isn't going to part with it.
You don't need a challenge at all to prove winning systems don't exist (for -EV games). Simple math will do. The purpose of such challenges is to address those for whom simple math is either not understood or rejected outright. Selling a "gambling system" under the premise that it will guarantee the buyer a long-term advantage over the house borders on fraud.
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
May 14th, 2011 at 9:13:03 PM
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Quote: MathExtremistSelling a "gambling system" under the premise that it will guarantee the buyer a long-term advantage over the house borders on fraud.
I wish it crossed the border.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
May 14th, 2011 at 9:55:32 PM
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Quote: MathExtremistThe purpose of such challenges is to address those for whom simple math is either not understood or rejected outright. Selling a "gambling system" under the premise that it will guarantee the buyer a long-term advantage over the house borders on fraud.
Someone who has a winning system would never sell it publicly, if at all. If such systems exist, you're likely to never hear or know about them. Simple math notwithstanding... (isn't notwithstanding a wonderful word? It goes back to the 14th century and means 'in spite of the fact'. In this case it means in spite of the fact of simple math.)
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
May 14th, 2011 at 10:04:06 PM
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Quote: WizardI wish it crossed the border.
I'm sure it does constitute fraud, but its hard to prosecute. First you have to find the person who sold it to you and thats almost impossible if you bought it on the net. Then you have to sue them. The best thing is to never buy anything someone who won't demonstrate it in person. Jerry Singer pops to mind..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
May 14th, 2011 at 11:22:04 PM
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Quote: EvenbobI'm sure it does constitute fraud, but its hard to prosecute. First you have to find the person who sold it to you and thats almost impossible if you bought it on the net. Then you have to sue them. The best thing is to never buy anything someone who won't demonstrate it in person. Jerry Singer pops to mind..
Spike aka Evenbob also comes to mind.
May 15th, 2011 at 3:00:28 AM
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Quote: EvenbobIf you had a system that could win, you would essentially be selling it to Mr Bluejay for a paltry 30K. He's the one that has to understand it well enough to program it, he would know it as well as you by the time it was over. It doesn't surprise me there have been no takers.
Well, good job on missing the point. As I say in the very first paragraph on my betting system challenge page:
Quote: Betting System ChallengeMy goal is to show that every huckster selling a "winning system" on the Internet for $29.95 (or whatever) is selling pure junk.
Hucksters sell their systems for $19.95, $49.95, or whatever. If they were willing to sell for a measly $25 or so, why wouldn't they sell it for a whopping $30,000?
Sure, anyone who had a winning system and WASN'T trying to sell it wouldn't go my challenge route, because they'd want to keep their winning system secret. But those who ARE selling their system, to any buyer, cheaply, on the mass market, should be all over my challenge. They're not.
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May 15th, 2011 at 3:14:52 AM
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Just a simple question: What about "systems" that don't beat the house, but beat your test setting ? As I read it, 11 of 20 runs, at odds of 10 to 1 might be beatable.
If a single run is ahead with probabilty more than 38.5% then your offer is still is favourable (although not claiming to beat the house). Depending on the allowed spread this could be done.
If a single run is ahead with probabilty more than 38.5% then your offer is still is favourable (although not claiming to beat the house). Depending on the allowed spread this could be done.
May 15th, 2011 at 3:27:27 AM
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I have a winning system for blackjack. Its very simple. Incredibly easy to learn. And always guaranteed to give you an edge.
I'm willing to sell it for whatever amount of money some fool is willing to pay for it.
The system is of course the famed "Own A Casino".
If I had any other system which would work, I'd simply sit down and start playing. I'd be up by more than 29.95 in no time and I'd have a lovely young lady bringing me drinks. Who on earth would turn down free booze, free food and the company of attractive, half-naked young ladies in order to sit at a desk and open envelopes containing money orders for 29.95 from their soon-to-be competitors who will surely alert the casinos, thus ending the system?
Lets face it: If you wouldn't give up free food, free booze, lovely ladies and unlimited earnings potential for 29.95, nobody else would either.
I'm willing to sell it for whatever amount of money some fool is willing to pay for it.
The system is of course the famed "Own A Casino".
If I had any other system which would work, I'd simply sit down and start playing. I'd be up by more than 29.95 in no time and I'd have a lovely young lady bringing me drinks. Who on earth would turn down free booze, free food and the company of attractive, half-naked young ladies in order to sit at a desk and open envelopes containing money orders for 29.95 from their soon-to-be competitors who will surely alert the casinos, thus ending the system?
Lets face it: If you wouldn't give up free food, free booze, lovely ladies and unlimited earnings potential for 29.95, nobody else would either.
May 15th, 2011 at 3:38:13 AM
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Quote: MichaelBluejay
But those who ARE selling their system, to any buyer, cheaply, on the mass market, should be all over my challenge. They're not.
With good reason. Its like a testing lab offering snake oil salesmen a challenge on their products. They would avoid it like the plague. System sellers and snake oil salesmen know their products are bogus, of course they avoid the light of day. If I'm misunderstanding your challenge, you're misunderstanding me. At the end of your challenge, you say nobody has accepted it. You don't specify no system seller has accepted it. A system seller will never accept it and somebody who has a winning system will ever accept it. You might as well triple the offer, the results will be the same.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
May 15th, 2011 at 7:20:10 PM
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Quote: EvenBobAt the end of your challenge, you say nobody has accepted it. You don't specify no system seller has accepted it.
Oh good lord!
First, if I *did* reference system sellers in my explanation. You keep cherry-picking parts of my page and ignoring both the full quotes as well as the context. What I *actually* said was:
Quote: Betting System ChallengeOne reader said that a system-seller claimed to have beaten my challenge (or perhaps the Wizard's challenge, he wasn't clear). Let me be clear: no one has ever even accepted my challenge, let alone beaten it.
There, the phrase "system seller" is right there plain as day.
It's also right there in the very first paragraph of the page, which tells the reader what the page is about. Of course I don't repeat the full and complete details in every single sentence on the page. That would just be ridiculous. I set the stage, so the reader knows what the topic under discussion is. If you choose to ignore it, that's not my fault.
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May 15th, 2011 at 7:28:40 PM
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So you are refusing to confirm or deny whether a system seller has ever accepted it? </sarcasm>
EvenBob: "Look America, I have a tiny wee-wee, can anybody
help me?"
May 15th, 2011 at 8:03:36 PM
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It's worth noting that EvenBob aka Spike was also trying to sell his system for roulette as well!
He claimed to have a roulette system that could predict 70% on the outside ECs!
He claimed to have a roulette system that could predict 70% on the outside ECs!
May 15th, 2011 at 8:09:02 PM
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Quote: Keysertrying to sell his system for roulette as well!
Don't worry, if it was for sale (its not), you couldn't afford it. Sour grapes never goes away, I guess.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
May 15th, 2011 at 8:12:25 PM
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Quote: MichaelBluejay
First, if I *did* reference system sellers in my explanation.
If you had a winning system, would you, Michael Bluejay, give to somebody else for 30K, for any reason?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
May 15th, 2011 at 8:32:32 PM
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Quote: EvenBobIf you had a winning system, would you, Michael Bluejay, give to somebody else for 30K, for any reason?
That's the wrong question, and is thus a straw man argument. The proper questions is:
"If someone were SELLING a system for $29.95 (or whatever), would they take the challenge?"
If they knew the system didn't really work, then of course they wouldn't. Which is the whole point of my page: No system-seller has accepted the challenge, because they know they're selling junk. So by offering the challenge and getting no system-sellers taking me up on it, I've shown them to be frauds.
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May 15th, 2011 at 8:45:12 PM
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Quote: MichaelBluejaySo by offering the challenge and getting no system-sellers taking me up on it, I've shown them to be frauds.
And because coming up with a winning system is an impossibility, that makes the other part of it moot.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
May 16th, 2011 at 8:39:46 AM
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Quote: Evenbob/SpikeAnd because coming up with a winning system is an impossibility, that makes the other part of it moot.
Then why were you trying to sell your system to beat the ECs at roulette? Why were you claiming that you could predict the ECs with 70% accuracy?
May 16th, 2011 at 1:36:48 PM
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Quote: KeyserSpike aka Evenbob also comes to mind.
I've never seen Evenbob referred to as Spike. What am I missing?
May 16th, 2011 at 1:40:52 PM
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Quote: benbakdoffI've never seen Evenbob referred to as Spike. What am I missing?
You're missing the backstory of the adversarial relationship that Keyser AKA Snowman and Evenbob AKA Spike have on some random Roulette EBB. Basically, they each think that the other is full of it. For the most part, they do a good job of coexisting peacefully here...
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
May 16th, 2011 at 2:32:54 PM
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May 16th, 2011 at 3:24:49 PM
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Quote: rdw4potusYou're missing the backstory of the adversarial relationship that Keyser AKA Snowman and Evenbob AKA Spike have on some random Roulette EBB. Basically, they each think that the other is full of it. For the most part, they do a good job of coexisting peacefully here...
How did Snowman and Spike even figure out they were Keyser and Evenbob here? Actually I probably don't want to know, sounds like a lot of drama lol.
EvenBob: "Look America, I have a tiny wee-wee, can anybody
help me?"
May 16th, 2011 at 4:54:40 PM
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Quote: KeyserThen why were you trying to sell your system to beat the ECs at roulette? Why were you claiming that you could predict the ECs with 70% accuracy?
He wasn't, at least not here, and stop hijacking the thread. If you want to discuss EvenBob's posts on another forum where he allegedly sold some roulette EC system (whatever that means), aside from the fact that cyber-stalking is just creepy, do it in another thread.
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
