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April 1st, 2023 at 3:13:57 PM permalink
in the short term will it work long term? been doing it for a few months any help would help please pm me
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April 1st, 2023 at 3:21:24 PM permalink
Jhonny Random or his big brother Marty? Lots of people beat up poor Jhonny, but few survive an encounter with Marty.
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April 1st, 2023 at 3:23:10 PM permalink
def no marty flat betting
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April 1st, 2023 at 3:32:48 PM permalink
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Jhonny Random or his big brother Marty? Lots of people beat up poor Jhonny, but few survive an encounter with Marty.
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Probably their cousin Hit N. Run
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April 1st, 2023 at 3:37:29 PM permalink
actually the whole shoe with a stop loss
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April 1st, 2023 at 3:48:33 PM permalink
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actually the whole shoe with a stop loss
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Life is one long session. Best of luck with your efforts.
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April 1st, 2023 at 5:01:19 PM permalink
thanks brother
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April 2nd, 2023 at 4:07:30 AM permalink
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in the short term will it work long term? been doing it for a few months any help would help please pm me
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"Months" is meaningless. How many hands total is what matters. Without any betting strategies just flat betting banker continually over a few thousand hands, you could be up money. Let us know after you have thousands of documented hands.
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April 2nd, 2023 at 4:59:11 AM permalink
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in the short term will it work long term? been doing it for a few months any help would help please pm me
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Which one? Electronic or physical?
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April 2nd, 2023 at 5:02:48 AM permalink
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in the short term will it work long term? been doing it for a few months any help would help please pm me
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Which one? Electronic or physical?
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It will be possible physical?! If you have variant, tell me also please
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April 2nd, 2023 at 5:45:42 AM permalink
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in the short term will it work long term? been doing it for a few months any help would help please pm me
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How short is short?
How long is long?

If you can beat it, it's not random.
If it's random, it can't be beat.

I am curious what game you might be playing.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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April 2nd, 2023 at 5:58:45 AM permalink
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in the short term will it work long term? been doing it for a few months any help would help please pm me
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How short is short?
How long is long?

If you can beat it, it's not random.
If it's random, it can't be beat.

I am curious what game you might be playing.
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baccarat and it can be beaten ive been doing it but i need to test longer if anyone can help would be great
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April 2nd, 2023 at 6:07:56 AM permalink
Quote: Dieter

Quote: johnnydepz

in the short term will it work long term? been doing it for a few months any help would help please pm me
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How short is short?
How long is long?

If you can beat it, it's not random.
If it's random, it can't be beat.

I am curious what game you might be playing.
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If it is random and the expectation value of the aggregate bets is negative after considerations of cashback, and the variance is sufficiently low relative to the effective house edge, then it cannot be beaten in the long run.
Gambling is a math contest where the score is tracked in dollars. Try not to get a negative score.
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April 2nd, 2023 at 6:19:37 AM permalink
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Quote: Dieter

Quote: johnnydepz

in the short term will it work long term? been doing it for a few months any help would help please pm me
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How short is short?
How long is long?

If you can beat it, it's not random.
If it's random, it can't be beat.

I am curious what game you might be playing.
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baccarat and it can be beaten ive been doing it but i need to test longer if anyone can help would be great
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If you've been beating it, why do you need more testing?
May the cards fall in your favor.
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April 2nd, 2023 at 6:40:47 AM permalink
Quote: Dieter

Quote: johnnydepz

Quote: Dieter

Quote: johnnydepz

in the short term will it work long term? been doing it for a few months any help would help please pm me
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How short is short?
How long is long?

If you can beat it, it's not random.
If it's random, it can't be beat.

I am curious what game you might be playing.
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baccarat and it can be beaten ive been doing it but i need to test longer if anyone can help would be great
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If you've been beating it, why do you need more testing?
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anyone can win over a few months need more testing so i know it will work over a few years
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April 2nd, 2023 at 7:15:27 AM permalink
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Quote: Dieter

Quote: johnnydepz

Quote: Dieter

Quote: johnnydepz

in the short term will it work long term? been doing it for a few months any help would help please pm me
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How short is short?
How long is long?

If you can beat it, it's not random.
If it's random, it can't be beat.

I am curious what game you might be playing.
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baccarat and it can be beaten ive been doing it but i need to test longer if anyone can help would be great
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If you've been beating it, why do you need more testing?
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anyone can win over a few months need more testing so i know it will work over a few years
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If it works today, does it matter if it will work tomorrow? Live today like it's a present. Tomorrow is always a day away and may never come.
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April 2nd, 2023 at 9:09:26 AM permalink
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If it works today, does it matter if it will work tomorrow? Live today like it's a present. Tomorrow is always a day away and may never come.
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Bust me if I'm too far out of line.
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April 2nd, 2023 at 9:38:38 AM permalink
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If it works today, does it matter if it will work tomorrow? Live today like it's a present. Tomorrow is always a day away and may never come.
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Bust me if I'm too far out of line.

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April 2nd, 2023 at 10:02:27 AM permalink
Quote: johnnydepz

Quote: Dieter

Quote: johnnydepz

Quote: Dieter

Quote: johnnydepz

in the short term will it work long term? been doing it for a few months any help would help please pm me
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How short is short?
How long is long?

If you can beat it, it's not random.
If it's random, it can't be beat.

I am curious what game you might be playing.
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baccarat and it can be beaten ive been doing it but i need to test longer if anyone can help would be great
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If you've been beating it, why do you need more testing?
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anyone can win over a few months need more testing so i know it will work over a few years
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Sound like we are being trolled.

Over how many hands have you played so far? How many units have you won? If you don't know those exact numbers then you have.... nothing, zilch, nada. Unless you have a mathematical edge doing something outside the normal rules of baccarat and how it's supposed to be played then you have.... nothing, zilch, nada.
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April 2nd, 2023 at 1:05:21 PM permalink
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anyone can win over a few months



"Months?"

Make it "Years."

I am a recreational gambler regularly playing negative expectation games (please, spare me the cat calls).

I keep accurate records of my session results and my overall win / loss.

For a couple decades it seemed I lost a bit every year, but a few years ago it changed: over a two or so year period I actually had a net profit of about ten grand.

My peak was two hand pays in one day, one at Spirit Mountain and one at Chinook Winds: hello, cloud nine.

But all good things come to an end, and my losing ways returned late 2022, alas.

Variance happens.

As old blue eyes aptly sang...

"Once there was a silly old ram
Thought he'd punch a hole in a dam
No one could make that ram, scram
He kept buttin' that dam

'Cause he had high hopes, he had high hopes
He had high apple pie, in the sky hopes"
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April 2nd, 2023 at 2:25:34 PM permalink
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Quote: johnnydepz

anyone can win over a few months



"Months?"

Make it "Years."

I am a recreational gambler regularly playing negative expectation games (please, spare me the cat calls).

I keep accurate records of my session results and my overall win / loss.

For a couple decades it seemed I lost a bit every year, but a few years ago it changed: over a two or so year period I actually had a net profit of about ten grand.

My peak was two hand pays in one day, one at Spirit Mountain and one at Chinook Winds: hello, cloud nine.

But all good things come to an end, and my losing ways returned late 2022, alas.

Variance happens.

As old blue eyes aptly sang...

"Once there was a silly old ram
Thought he'd punch a hole in a dam
No one could make that ram, scram
He kept buttin' that dam

'Cause he had high hopes, he had high hopes
He had high apple pie, in the sky hopes"
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I always thought it was "pineapple pie in the sky hopes"
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April 2nd, 2023 at 2:34:04 PM permalink
Axel u r dixhead head a stupid one , it's ppl like u who keep winning players down as for the o p keep winning and don't listen to these stupid dix heads

Thank you
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April 3rd, 2023 at 12:06:22 AM permalink
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Axel u r dixhead head a stupid one , it's ppl like u who keep winning players down as for the o p keep winning and don't listen to these stupid dix heads

Thank you
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LOL! If people who believe in simple math are dixheads, then so be it.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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April 3rd, 2023 at 4:22:37 AM permalink
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Axel u r dixhead head a stupid one , it's ppl like u who keep winning players down as for the o p keep winning and don't listen to these stupid dix heads

Thank you
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LOL! If people who believe in simple math are dixheads, then so be it.
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and they got a suspension for their statement.maybe temporary but probably not. That is why the forum has rules
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April 3rd, 2023 at 11:21:17 AM permalink
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Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: Richbigsexy

Axel u r dixhead head a stupid one , it's ppl like u who keep winning players down as for the o p keep winning and don't listen to these stupid dix heads

Thank you
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LOL! If people who believe in simple math are dixheads, then so be it.
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and they got a suspension for their statement.maybe temporary but probably not. That is why the forum has rules
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It's obviously someone we know who went out of their way to mask their writing style. I wonder if we know anyone who thinks themselves to be big rich and sexy, has issues with me, likes baccarat, and thinks they can win.
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April 3rd, 2023 at 11:46:58 AM permalink
It is obviously someone who doesn't like you.

But, unlike many, I have never created any accounts other than MDAWG even during long periods when I was suspended. That is because I am disciplined. I am sure that many an otherwise disciplined person goes to hell in a hand basket when drunken, both at the tables and at WOV. Not to imply that anyone needs to get inebriated to lay down insults.

In all, the post gave me a good laugh. I'd assume that you laughed too.
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April 3rd, 2023 at 11:58:15 AM permalink
especially by the bakara criterion, you can guess with a probability of 100% think who it could be, I think he wanted you to reveal him using this key
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April 3rd, 2023 at 1:30:08 PM permalink
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Axel u r dixhead head a stupid one , it's ppl like u who keep winning players down as for the o p keep winning and don't listen to these stupid dix heads

Thank you
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LOL! If people who believe in simple math are dixheads, then so be it.
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Mods, Due to Axel's admission am I free to refer to him as a dixhead with impunity?
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April 3rd, 2023 at 1:38:53 PM permalink
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Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: Richbigsexy

Axel u r dixhead head a stupid one , it's ppl like u who keep winning players down as for the o p keep winning and don't listen to these stupid dix heads

Thank you
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LOL! If people who believe in simple math are dixheads, then so be it.
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and they got a suspension for their statement.maybe temporary but probably not. That is why the forum has rules
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It's obviously someone we know who went out of their way to mask their writing style. I wonder if we know anyone who thinks themselves to be big rich and sexy, has issues with me, likes baccarat, and thinks they can win.
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Another moderator beat me to it, but I believe Richbigsexy was nuked -not just suspended- for that insulting post by whomever was the first moderator on the scene. That was Richbigsexy's first post on the forum and it was so far outside of the rules that I agree that a nuke is warranted; there's no history of good behavior. I also do suspect it may have been a sock puppet (perhaps of a previously banned member.) Please do not imply that a specific forum member made this sock puppet unless you have some evidence and are prepared to defend your statements.
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April 3rd, 2023 at 2:56:54 PM permalink
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Please do not imply that a specific forum member made this sock puppet unless you have some evidence and are prepared to defend your statements.



No names were mentioned by Axel; of course we all suspect we know who he meant.

As for requiring Axel to back up his claim, I think as a condition precedent the unnamed member should be required to produce evidence to back up his brags.
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April 3rd, 2023 at 3:23:37 PM permalink
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Mods, Due to Axel's admission am I free to refer to him as a dixhead with impunity?
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No.
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April 3rd, 2023 at 3:33:52 PM permalink
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It is obviously someone who doesn't like you.

But, unlike many, I have never created any accounts other than MDAWG even during long periods when I was suspended. That is because I am disciplined. I am sure that many an otherwise disciplined person goes to hell in a hand basket when drunken, both at the tables and at WOV. Not to imply that anyone needs to get inebriated to lay down insults.

In all, the post gave me a good laugh. I'd assume that you laughed too.
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I did get a chuckle.
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April 3rd, 2023 at 5:34:19 PM permalink
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Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: Richbigsexy

Axel u r dixhead head a stupid one , it's ppl like u who keep winning players down as for the o p keep winning and don't listen to these stupid dix heads

Thank you
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LOL! If people who believe in simple math are dixheads, then so be it.
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Mods, Due to Axel's admission am I free to refer to him as a dixhead with impunity?
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Me, too, please! I am a bigger dixhead than Axel. I subscribe to the tyranny of mathematics. “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to an advantage play except through me."
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April 3rd, 2023 at 11:46:19 PM permalink
Sorry, I alone did not understand what I wanted to say, and how does the author of the initial post do it?
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April 4th, 2023 at 12:20:51 AM permalink
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in the short term will it work long term? been doing it for a few months any help would help please pm me
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Your method does *not* work in the short term. It might have worked for you, so far, but if we tested it over a bunch of short sessions, we'd find out that it's a loser even in the short term.

Either learn a simple programming language to test it, like Javascript or Python, or hire a programmer to code the test for you. You can find programmers at various places online, like Fiverr.

This article explains in detail why your system doesn't work, even in the short term.
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