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September 23rd, 2022 at 8:35:05 AM permalink
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Right, and you sit home all day on gambling websites and don't recognize you are gambling.
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I don't play all day the sessions are very short and that is correct, I'm not gambling.
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Right.

You are classic addiction not able to recognize you have a problem.

The more you claim to make wagers but aren't gambling the more you prove you have an addiction and don't recognize it.

Even the most successful advantage Player will say he is gambling and refer to himself as a professional gambler.
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Warning: I am very close to handing out a suspension for a personal insult. These are personal comments that are insulting. Your role is not to psychoanalyze the other posters and announce that they have a disorder. Is that clear?
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September 23rd, 2022 at 8:52:46 AM permalink
I am closing this thread and will reopen it in approximately 36 hours.

Warning: You not allowed to personally insult the person you disagree with.

1. Calling someone delusional is an insult. This insult is being repeated by multiple posters.

2. Calling someone a gambling addict is an insult. It is particularly insulting when there is clearly no basis for such a statement.

Rather than suspend a fraction of the forum, I will temporarily close this thread and allow it to sink below the Recent Threads list. I will reopen it on Saturday evening, and if the same people then get on this thread and continue to violate the forum rules against personal insults, I will take stronger action.
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September 23rd, 2022 at 9:17:33 AM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

I am closing this thread and will reopen it in approximately 36 hours.

Warning: You not allowed to personally insult the person you disagree with.

1. Calling someone delusional is an insult. This insult is being repeated by multiple posters.

2. Calling someone a gambling addict is an insult. It is particularly insulting when there is clearly no basis for such a statement.

Rather than suspend a fraction of the forum, I will temporarily close this thread and allow it to sink below the Recent Threads list. I will reopen it on Saturday evening, and if the same people then get on this thread and continue to violate the forum rules against personal insults, I will take stronger action.
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Did MDawg pay you to do this? :-P
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September 23rd, 2022 at 9:18:10 AM permalink
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Bob on the roulette lightning wheel is this the one that draws a few numbers after the wheel starts to spin and if any of these hits it gets a multiplier? If so is it just the inside numbers or does it also sometimes give multipliers on the outside (columns, dozens ect)? If it only does the numbers then are you playing some numbers straight up?
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It only applies to the inside numbers never the outside bets. I never bet the inside numbers.
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September 24th, 2022 at 6:05:31 PM permalink
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/37509-my-governor-changed-my-life/81/#post863497

Quote: seven
regarding pattern and trends:
Would this be one of the patterns you call a pattern?
B,RRRRRRR,B,RRR,B,RRRRRRRRR,B,RRRRR,B,RR,B,RRRRRB,



No

Quote: seven
What is a trend according your opinion/view? 6 x 8 x 10x Red or Black for example?



Anything that keeps repeating for longer than 5 spins. Such as BBBBB or BRBRBRQuote: seven



Quote: seven
you wrote that you flat bet but it is not same amount any 2 days!<
please be so kind to explain this as I am confused. I know a flat bet can be 1 unit 2 units or more and I also understood that you are not playing a progressive strategy

I change the dollar amounts of my bets so it doesn't look like I'm using any kind of a routine method.



Quote: seven
please explain the even bets when playing columns. you are betting 1 column and a half column.
how do you bet a half column? as far as I know roulette columns and betting half column you would need to bet on the numbers of the column. I understood that you don't have much time to place your bets, will it still be enough time to place the bets?



I do not bet half a column I cut the column numbers in half so I can keep track of which columns to bet on. I run the first 18 numbers in the columns against the last 18 numbers just like you do in a high low bet.


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when betting on 2 columns/dozens against a sleeper column/dozen please explain how or why you decide which column/dozen you bet 1 unit and the other column/dozen with 2 units?



I usually run the 1st and 3rd against each other as a even chance bet by making the second a push. When I see a bet I will place 2 units on the 1st or 3rd and one unit on the second thereby neutralizing the second. I do this because I tend to see different kinds of patterns when I run 12 numbers against 12 numbers then I do 18 against 18.




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as we are talking about column/dozen sleepers would you give us a minimum number a column/dozen is not showing up so you call it a sleeper?



For me disappearing for six or seven spins qualifies it as sleeping.



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I am also confused by your virtual bets. for example > 5 virtual bets > 5 real money bets > 5 virtual bets
could you please explain a bit more about those virtual bets? why do you use those virtual bets? do you use those virtual bets always before yo place a real money bet? what is the reasoning of those virtual bets?



I always bet first virtually to see if the outcomes are actually playing my game because sometimes they are not. Because I'm experimenting on this wheel I do 5 + 5 + 5 to see if there is continuity between betting virtually and betting real money. In regular play I only try to make one unit so I don't need to do this



Quote: seven
sorry I forgot to ask how many screens your PC setup has?



I only use one screen because there's not enough time to follow more than one stream of information. There is barely time to do that with 20 seconds in between bets.

A lot of really good questions, you put a lot of thought into this. Thank you for asking.
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September 24th, 2022 at 7:32:40 PM permalink
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I usually run the 1st and 3rd against each other as a even chance bet by making the second a push. When I see a bet I will place 2 units on the 1st or 3rd and one unit on the second thereby neutralizing the second.
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This would mean you are losing two units when the second dozen hits while only winning one unit when the first and third hits.

Plus you lose five units when green hits

How is that an even chance?
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September 24th, 2022 at 8:32:00 PM permalink
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I usually run the 1st and 3rd against each other as a even chance bet by making the second a push. When I see a bet I will place 2 units on the 1st or 3rd and one unit on the second thereby neutralizing the second.
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This would mean you are losing two units when the second dozen hits while only winning one unit when the first and third hits.

Plus you lose five units when green hits

How is that an even chance?
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I am betting 3 units total and the most I can lose is three units. When I bet 2 on the first or third dozen I win three units. That's what makes it even chance. Two units on the first dozen and I win four units minus one unit that was on the second dozen for a total win of three units. 3 units bet 3 units won
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September 24th, 2022 at 8:58:12 PM permalink
What’s wrong with placing the ten for 3 units? About the same vig and variance as 00 roulette column bet. Alternatively you could place the ten for 2 units and the four for 1 unit. Even chance

Another similar and fun option would be to buy the four…but only if the commission is collected up front. That keeps the vig at 4.76%, comparable to 00 roulette

The patterns are easier to track and exploit using dice
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September 24th, 2022 at 9:20:51 PM permalink
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What’s wrong with placing the ten for 3 units?
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I do not understand what placing the 10 means
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September 24th, 2022 at 11:19:26 PM permalink
Thank you very much for answering each of my questions, very much appreciated. please bear with me as I have follow up questions.
please correct me guys regarding quoting and formatting as it is not my strength.

Quote: seven
regarding pattern and trends:
Would this be one of the patterns you call a pattern?
B,RRRRRRR,B,RRR,B,RRRRRRRRR,B,RRRRR,B,RR,B,RRRRRB,

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No



do I have to think of another sample I think it could be a pattern and ask again? or could you please give me an example of one? as I was sure my above example is a pattern :)

Quote: seven
What is a trend according your opinion/view? 6 x 8 x 10x Red or Black for example?

Quote: EvenBob

Anything that keeps repeating for longer than 5 spins. Such as BBBBB or BRBRBR



do you only follow and bet Red/Black? or also Even/Odd and 1-18 and 19-36?

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you wrote that you flat bet but it is not same amount any 2 days!<
please be so kind to explain this as I am confused. I know a flat bet can be 1 unit 2 units or more and I also understood that you are not playing a progressive strategy

Quote: EvenBob

I change the dollar amounts of my bets so it doesn't look like I'm using any kind of a routine method.



means to confuse the enemy :) I assume you change the amount after a winning session and not during a session?

Quote: seven
please explain the even bets when playing columns. you are betting 1 column and a half column.
how do you bet a half column? as far as I know roulette columns and betting half column you would need to bet on the numbers of the column. I understood that you don't have much time to place your bets, will it still be enough time to place the bets?

Quote: EvenBob

I do not bet half a column I cut the column numbers in half so I can keep track of which columns to bet on. I run the first 18 numbers in the columns against the last 18 numbers just like you do in a high low bet.



thanks for clarifying as it is new to me that someone is using this kind of approach to get another even bet pattern/trend
let's see if I understood it right that if you get a bet signal>trend/pattern then you bet 1 on the column which has half numbers and the 2 units you bet on the full column

Quote: seven
when betting on 2 columns/dozens against a sleeper column/dozen please explain how or why you decide which column/dozen you bet 1 unit and the other column/dozen with 2 units?

Quote: EvenBob

I usually run the 1st and 3rd against each other as a even chance bet by making the second a push. When I see a bet I will place 2 units on the 1st or 3rd and one unit on the second thereby neutralizing the second. I do this because I tend to see different kinds of patterns when I run 12 numbers against 12 numbers then I do 18 against 18.



thanks for clarifying and again a very interesting approach.

Quote: seven
as we are talking about column/dozen sleepers would you give us a minimum number a column/dozen is not showing up so you call it a sleeper?

Quote: EvenBob

For me disappearing for six or seven spins qualifies it as sleeping.



according to your answers above I need to ask the following
let's start with the dozens. what if the 2nd dozen is the sleeper? how do you handle this as the 2nd dozen is the one you try to neutralize?
regarding the columns do you check also for sleepers or only the 18/18 chance of the 3 columns? and if you check also for sleepers how do you play it?

Quote: seven
I am also confused by your virtual bets. for example > 5 virtual bets > 5 real money bets > 5 virtual bets
could you please explain a bit more about those virtual bets? why do you use those virtual bets? do you use those virtual bets always before yo place a real money bet? what is the reasoning of those virtual bets?

Quote: EvenBob

I always bet first virtually to see if the outcomes are actually playing my game because sometimes they are not. Because I'm experimenting on this wheel I do 5 + 5 + 5 to see if there is continuity between betting virtually and betting real money. In regular play I only try to make one unit so I don't need to do this



you bet the first one virtually on any pattern/trend you see which fits to your game, so if you win (virtually) will you do the real money bet on the same trend/pattern or do you wait for the next trend/pattern?
do you always do this virtual bet before the real money bet after you see the trend/patter you are looking for? for example you see the trend/pattern you are looking for you do the virtual bet if you lose the virtual bet I assume you are looking for a new trend/pattern and you d again a virtual bet and if you win the virtual bet you will do immediately the real money bet? let's say you win and you have your 1 unit profit per session. then you decide for another session. will you again do the virtual bet before the real money bet?
I hope it was not to confusing :)

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I only use one screen because there's not enough time to follow more than one stream of information. There is barely time to do that with 20 seconds in between bets.


I thought somehow that you are following 2-3 different live dealer casinos online and in this case it would be better to use more than one screen

BTW could you teach/explain your way of seeing patterns/trends to someone else and he would bet same way you are doing it? or is it that only you with the years of experience can see those patterns fast enough?

thank you again for answering all my questions. stay safe there

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