Posts that went unchallenged by 'management' influenced members. Members who often failed to stay within the rules as interpreted at those times. I'm not attributing blame. We have causes and we have effects.Quote: coachbellyAre Marcus or MDawg to blame for the suspensions of other members?
Didn't the contributors who left in disgust choose to leave, rather than simply follow the repeated advice of the admins to either ignore or block bothersome members and posts?
Are Marcus and MDawg to blame for the choices made by other members?
You quote out of context. I directed two posters to drop interpersonal hostility. There is no rule that says I cannot be hostile to the concepts and characteristics contained within posts.Quote: coachbelly
Quote: OnceDearThe posts of Mdawg and yourself have certain characteristics. It's those characteristics, of the posts, which I feel a certain hostility to.
In the original (now closed) "Adventures" thread, you directed Marcus to do the following...Quote: OnceDearDrop the hostility.
This smacks of "rules for thee, but not for me" - ism.
How about you drop your admitted hostility, instead of reacting with hostility?
He Did do that. I held back from calling him anything but implied that others might make their own judgement (silently). That's not trolling to me. YMMV.Quote: coachbellyQuote: OnceDearYou simply told the cards how to proceed and they obeyed you?**
** What does one call a man who claims such magical powers?
The quote above is just straight-up trolling.
I'll pass on that. Thank you for your contribution.Quote:Yet another mod in desperate need of a self-check.
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Quote: OnceDearYou simply told the cards how to proceed and they obeyed you?**
** What does one call a man who claims such magical powers?
Quote: coachbellyThe quote above is just straight-up trolling.
Quote: OnceDearHe Did do that.
Quote: MDawgI cut the next shoe, and declared that Player was gonna be it
You are asserting, that in the quote above, MDawg claims to have told something to the cards, and that he claims magical powers?
Quote: OnceDearWell you can start by not putting words in my mouth.
Rules for thee, but not for OD...straight-up trolling....have you no shame?
Quote: coachbelly
You are asserting, that in the quote above, MDawg claims to have told something to the cards, and that he claims magical powers?
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That matches my initial read of MDawg's statement.
Quote: DieterThat matches my initial read of MDawg's statement.
Where in this statement did he claim to have told something to the cards, and that he has magical powers?
Quote: MDawgI cut the next shoe, and declared that Player was gonna be it
My read is that he declared that his initial bet would be on Player.
Quote: coachbellyQuote: DieterThat matches my initial read of MDawg's statement.
Where in this statement did he claim to have told something to the cards, and that he has magical powers?Quote: MDawgI cut the next shoe, and declared that Player was gonna be it
My read is that he declared that his initial bet would be on Player.
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Cutting is certainly a form of influencing the deck.
My interpretation of the "Player" declaration is that it is a prediction as to which wager will be favorable this shoe.
Zero or more of us may be misinterpreting something.
Quote: billryanI took mdawgs pronouncement as a command, not a wish.
A command? Like when a player calls for a monkey in Blackjack?
I don't know who will be more irritating: MDawg and his claims, or OD alternately defending and attacking MDawg. Time will tell.
Quote: billryanIt almost sounds like you are suggesting it was mere luck that mdawg called player and it was player for the next dozen or so hands.
Has anyone suggested otherwise?
Baccarat.
No exceptional shoes no particularly long runs. Just managed to win the bigger hands.
+7500
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
Baccarat.
I didn't play that big, largest bets I made were 3000 (and I lost every time I bet 3000), but eventually hit a streak where I was on fire winning special bets (which I almost never place), ties, and Bank bets, back to back. Relatively short session.
Someone was watching me and said, "He wins because he's a winner. He has that winning attitude." Another said, "He's a genius." (I just laughed and said, If that mattered, I'd be betting the limit every hand.)
+5500
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
We went rappelling with the Wizard. First time for both me and my wife. Very enjoyable, and appreciate the patience and really precise direction from the Wizard.
Couple times too, we went hiking on our own, once right until dark. That was adventurous coming down the cliff in the dark.
The daylight hike was on Keystone Thrust which was marked as "moderate" but it was just too easy, so we ended up going off the trail and up the side of a fairly steep little mountain.
DD Blackjack, 500 - 20000.
Days like this make you wonder why you played at all. Not so edifying, not so fun. TWICE I got close to back to even, then dumped, was down a LOT at the worst point - ended, far enough down to call it a day.
-18000
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
Did I miss something? Where's this 14 in a row claimed?Quote: ChumpChangeI don't know how you win 14 in a row on a double deck shoe,...
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DD Blackjack. 500 - 20000.
A monster of a session punctuated only by a dinner break where I’m told I earned some fifty thousand in Theo loss (playing Blackjack, not eating dinner 😆). I was up and down a lot - down as much as -48K at one point but I closed it out nicely ahead. Funny even with all the big betting someone who watched me commented that I was “a conservative player.”
+30000
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
I already have a Cosmograph 6239, 6263 and 6265, but I acquired a second 6265 just today, and here it is side by side next to my Paul Newman 116528 (it is called a Paul Newman because of the red sweep second hand and the red markings around the edge of the dial). This 6265 is the most valuable of 6265s because it is a Big Red Daytona, so named because the words Daytona are inscribed on the dial in big red letters.
What's interesting, is that the stainless steel 6265 is worth much more than the 18K solid gold 116528. This particular Big Red 6265 is in mint condition and came with the original Rolex box and papers, which makes it worth even more, about double what the 18K 116528 is worth. If the 6265 had a Paul Newman dial, something like this:
or this
it would be worth anywhere from a quarter million to over a half million, or even more (Paul Newman's own Paul Newman Cosmographs sold for up to five million dollars). I have two of those old Cosmograph Daytonas with the Paul Newman dials but I usually don't travel with them. You practically don't want to wear a timepiece worth a half million for fear of getting a scratch on it.
The other cool thing about the old stainless steel Cosmographs is that - wear one, and almost nobody knows what it is. Discreet. One guy is wearing a silly looking aftermarket diamond encrusted Rolex that he ruined with gaudiness and doesn't even know that an old plain stainless Cosmograph is worth more, and will continue to go up in value while he just ruined the value of his Rolex by adding aftermarket jewels to it.
The point of all this, is that some Rolexes, especially Daytonas, are not just hunks of jewelry, but investments. These 6265 Cosmographs for example - I'm told that Rolex couldn't give them away in the 1980s when the new automatic Daytonas came out. And back then I understand that used ones were worth maybe a thousand dollars tops, if that. Even as recently as fifteen years ago a 6265 (non-Paul Newman) cost maybe $20K. Today, five or six times that for one in mint condition with box and papers.
Anyway, I figured I'd put some of these casino winnings into something tangible. Yes, the wife got some things too, not a watch but something along the lines of what SooPoo is getting for his wife.
But a decent store of value for a discretionary purchase
They pretty much hold their real monetary value
For example, if you bought any of these Rolex older Cosmograph Daytonas: 6239, 6263, 6265 etc. (manufactured in the 1960s - 1980s) cosmographs in the past, as I have, they would be worth more today. Comparing their value increase over the past forty years - an increase on an exponential order of 100X or more.
Same with certain old Submariners, especially the red submariners. I have a 1680 red Submariner I picked up for about 10K about fifteen years ago, it is worth 4-5X that now.
As far as more contemporary Rolex models, the Daytonas and Submariners especially, most of them, are worth more today than years ago.
The 6265 I bought today: will it be worth $200K in ten or so years? Probably.
As far as current contemporary models, currently Rolex no longer special orders their top models, such as any watch in platinum, or any Daytona in stainless steel. There is no waiting list either. Just, you have to give your name to your local authorized Rolex dealer and hope that you'll get a call, if you're considered a loyal customer - in about four years. Similar to the sort of situation if you're looking for a brand new Ferrari: good luck. But if you do land that brand new specialty Rolex, you could literally turn around and sell it for more than you paid right on the spot. Here's a number you could relate to: if you had put your name down a few years ago, and the authorized Rolex dealer deemed you worthy, you could pick up that Rolex Platina (Daytona in platinum) for only $75,000. today, and as you know, it's selling used today for as much as double that.
Among other watches that seem to increase in value are platinum Pateks, and any Patek Nautilus.
For the most part, the best way to buy any watch is in the pre-owned department, with notable exceptions, such as watches that are currently selling used for more than brand new full retail - due to almost complete unavailability new.
Old American cars, some of them, are worth a lot more today than years ago too, of course.
Plus you may enjoy a watch and wear it, look at a painting on the wall, drive a car, all the while as they appreciate in value. Anyway these are options besides socking money into the stock market.
Here's an old Peugeot 403 like Columbo drove, currently for auction at around $11K
https://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/peugeot/403/1958/872647
it's in terrible condition though and will probably cost you at least 80K to restore....
DD Blackjack. 500 - 20000.
I roared ahead to +20k early on, kept playing and was actually -5K at one point but pretty quickly rallied back to +15K. Peaked at about +23K, started to slide back some, stopped.
+20000
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
I've noticed tickets in that shrine for up to a few dollars actually, not just pennies.
And then if you drop by the shrine at another time,
the tickets are gone - so someone is picking them up. The amount of change doesn't seem to overflow either, so perhaps people are scooping some of that up too?
Get the family to go in and cash in the tickets for cold, hard, cash.
DD Blackjack. 500 - 10000.
There were some big bets that I won, but it was mostly (though not entirely) the grind that took me ahead.
+10500
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
DD Blackjack. 500 - 6000.
Pretty smooth sailing. On a good roll lately a good clip.
+11800
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
Baccarat.
I was down as much as -10K at one point but it was pretty much a steady climb from there. I kept trying to win 10K but whenever I got close to that I'd fall back, so finally I called it a day. Not at the peak, but at a nice relaxed sum ahead.
+5000
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
Baccarat.
I was never down, but I kept getting stuck between 5000 - 8000 ahead, finally pulled ahead to a little over 11K ahead, lost a hand or two, settled with close to a clean stack.
+9840
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
Baccarat.
I was down as much as -6500 at one point but pretty quickly came back to even. From there some false starts but gradually powered ahead to end it nicely.
+10000
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
Baccarat.
Played just one shoe. Won my first 5k bet. Lost my second. Won my third 5k bet. Hit a sequence where I was winning at least three bets in a row tripling each time. 500, 1500, 4500. 300, 900, 2700. 400, 1200, 3600. It was awesome.
+17075
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
Baccarat.
Ten bank run straight out the gate. I free handed the first hand then 500 on the second and pressed all the way. Didn’t press hard but hard enough. Dealer side bets galore. Everyone happy.
+12100
Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
Quote: MDawgI'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
LOL…sounds like a grift. A scam. A con.
MDawg puts up $10K. Challenger (dupe) puts up $10k. 3rd party person simply verifies that upcoming session report or reports are “entirely accurate”. Win, lose or draw. Session is certified as “entirely accurate” and dupe loses $10,000.
I would like to partake in this but with my slot play. A neutral 3rd party will verify the accuracy of my future slot play sessions. If accurate, I get $10,000 from MDawg. And yes, I’ll throw that “verifier” $500.
What is this…the Gong Show?
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Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
I'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
I'll contribute five hundred from my end for the Wizard's time if the Challenger will do the same, so that's $19,000. to the winner of this side Challenge.
This Side Challenge remains good for the duration of this particular Vegas trip.
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It’s not the Gong Show or anything of the likes.
What it is, is a challenge from a down to earth, real deal, factual person that knows how to win in Vegas.
In fact, The Wizard verified his existence as well as play because so many verbally challenged him before.
And as just about all of us knew, not a single sole has the guts or the wherewithal to call him out on this by throwing down the cash,
Yes sir, he is real, extremely honest and factual. I know that for sure.
So now do you understand, it’s not the Gong Show?
Quote: Marcusclark66In fact, The Wizard verified his existence
Verified his existence? Ok. I’m not sure why that’s earth shattering, but whatever.
Quote: Marcusclark66Yes sir, he is real
Wonderful. You’ve met him. Again, not sure why this is important, but whatever.
Quote: Marcusclark66So now do you understand, it’s not the Gong Show?
I stand corrected. Laugh-In?
My point stands. The parameters set forth simply state that his play will be accurately verified, and if so, MDawg gets someone’s $10,000. I fail to see how this is anything but guaranteed money for him. A grift. A con.
Quote: TDVegasLOL…sounds like a grift. A scam. A con.
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That is a bit strong. Three-day suspension.
Quote: MDawgTo paraphrase a great line from a great British author, "Consider the Craps (They considered it)."
A man comes up to a craps table. He has two choices - play the Pass line or the Don't. He decides on the Pass. He keeps it there, and the shooter makes 8 passes. Then craps out. Then makes 10 passes. The man wins 18/19 times that he bets. Did he have to possess any clairvoyance to win?
In Baccarat my usual opening strategy is to free hand the first hand, then bet whatever came up. If I win, I press, if I win again, I press again. So, in such situations, if that side runs, I will win a lot. If it doesn't even repeat even twice, I will have lost one bet. If it runs at least 3 times, I will make something or at worst break even. In other words, Plan A on all shoes is usually to see if it runs straight out the gate. If not, then I free hand a bunch more and see what else might be in store. (Keep in mind also that when I cut, I might be cutting at that point for a reason. 😉)
On this particular shoe for Day 164 play, all I did was decide to bet Player instead of free handing the first hand. Call that clairvoyance or call that just deciding to do that instead of free handing the first hand. And then I pressed as usual from there. The only mistake I made, was that I bet 500 on the first hand, 1500 on the second, but then didn't keep to the more aggressive than usual press I was doing at that moment and go 4500 on the third hand and up from there. If I had, I would have won a LOT more, in tune with what the pit boss remarked: "You could retire on a shoe like that."
Remind me if I forget in a week or two I'll post a picture of the shoe. We'll have ThatDonGuy evaluate the odds of a shoe where the first 8 out the gate are Player, followed by 1 Bank, then 10 Players. As well, once the side by side Player runs ended, I just free handed about 10 hands and just evaluated that the gravy train was more or less over, and left. That is also key - when something extraordinary happens and you have taken at least some (winning $15K or so on a run like that was nothing, I was barely betting) advantage of it, be sure to leave. Session over.
I showed a picture of the shoe to a couple friends of mine and they were amazed that I didn't clock $200K on it. I was a little gun shy though in that I had actually lost a few K on the first shoe, and had been down as much as -10K at one point on the first shoe. So, along those lines, from lowest to end point, it was a 23K or so run. (Which gets back to my other point made before.)Quote: MDawgUnscientific as it is, it's often easier to win big when you have to, versus when you don't.
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This "winning big when you have to" may also work against you, because in this case, just a few hands into the beginning of that Player run, I was even again, and I let off on the gas. I should not have, but I did. It's sometimes hard to bet huge on the very next hand after you just got even, even if the progression would have called for it.
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Here is the shoe I played as noted above, and below. Looks like it was actually 7 Players, then 1 Bank, then 10 Players. Then 1 Bank. Then 3 Players.
There was an intervening tie, but basically 17/18 of the first hands out the gate were Players, and 20/22 of the first hands out the gate were Players.
Quote: MDawgDay 164 play.
Baccarat.
First shoe, I got down -8K, then rallied back and forth until by the end of that shoe I was down only -3K. I cut the next shoe, and declared that Player was gonna be it - placed five hunny on Player and never looked back, pressing a little but not nearly enough all the way. Eight Players followed by ten Players. Nice! Free handed it all the way for a bit after that, then left.
+12500
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IMO, just a side show for no charge awarded to our casino patrons
Ah, the everlasting drama, freak show at times, in the drama room. Oops, meant baccarat room.
Another time, a man's wife was yelling at him in Chinese asking him why he wasn't betting on the run that was happening before their eyes. I can't speak Chinese but it was obvious what was going on.
Quote: TDVegasQuote: MDawgI'm willing to present a side Challenge. If anyone doubts that any one, just any one of the Session reports I present during this trip is not entirely accurate, throw down a red flag! Put up a mere ten grand in cash, let's work out how to verify the Session to your satisfaction using the Wizard as the judge, and winner takes the twenty thousand.
LOL…sounds like a grift. A scam. A con.
MDawg puts up $10K. Challenger (dupe) puts up $10k. 3rd party person simply verifies that upcoming session report or reports are “entirely accurate”. Win, lose or draw. Session is certified as “entirely accurate” and dupe loses $10,000.
I would like to partake in this but with my slot play. A neutral 3rd party will verify the accuracy of my future slot play sessions. If accurate, I get $10,000 from MDawg. And yes, I’ll throw that “verifier” $500.
What is this…the Gong Show?
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One additional comment here.
And by the way it should be obvious that MDawg is offering a Challenge as to the accuracy of his session reports, as posted. Not as will be posted!
Big difference.
Thanks, over and out my friends.
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Quote: rainmanWho cares, his Challenge is ridiculous as were his previous challenges.
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Everyone is certainly entitled to their own opinion. Without any doubt or ridicule.
Sincerely,
Marcus Clark, AKA MarcusClark66
Quote: MDawgHere is the shoe I played as noted above, and below. Looks like it was actually 7 Players, then 1 Bank, then 10 Players. Then 1 Bank. Then 3 Players.
There was an intervening tie, but basically 17/18 of the first hands out the gate were Players, and 20/22 of the first hands out the gate were Players
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I have been asked to calculate the probability of this.
There are two ways: first, assuming each hand is from a full (I assume 8-deck) shoe, then by actually dealing 22 hands from each shoe.
The first way, I get the following:
17 player wins in 18 hands: 1 / 90,915
20 player wins in 22 hands: 1 / 143,965
However, I think MDawg is really more interested in 17 or more player wins in 18 hands, or 20 or more in 22 hands:
17 or more player wins in 18 hands: 1 / 87,020
20 or more player wins in 22 hands: 1 / 133,355
I simulated 100 million shoes, and got these numbers:
17 player wins in the first 18: 1 / 86,786
20 player wins in the first 22: 1 / 136,585
17 or more player wins in the first 18: 1 / 83,190
20 or more player wins in the first 22: 1 / 126,667
To paraphrase some old white woman, " Math is for the little people"
Quote: billryanMath is a lot like voodoo. It can only affect you if you believe in it. Hasn't years of watching well-regarded posters like mdawg, even bob and the real Marcus Clarke showed you that if you ignore the math, the math will ignore you.
To paraphrase some old white woman, " Math is for the little people"
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And…..following the math, one will win 100% of his wagers? Is that the way it goes?