AxelWolf
AxelWolf
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February 8th, 2021 at 10:31:11 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Nope. Happened at an off Strip
casino about 2000. It was before
I was playing roulette. I saw
a crowd around the table and
noticed two 00's and two 0's
on the board. Funny thing is,
for the 8th spin there was less
than half as many chips bet
as for the 7th, It's like everybody
knew it was over.

So this was before Alan seen someone roll 18 yo's in a row.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
EvenBob
EvenBob
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February 9th, 2021 at 12:56:29 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

So this was before Alan seen someone roll 18 yo's in a row.



I had no idea at the time
what a big deal it was for
2 pockets to catch the ball
7 times in a row. It might
have been '98 or'99, it was
in the early days of the
internet. Today it would
draw more attention.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
kewlj
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February 9th, 2021 at 1:16:46 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

blackjack experts have a calculation they call "NO"

it means the number of hands or bets required whereby you can be sure your results will exactly or almost exactly match your true expectation

unfortunately I was not able locate (google) and get a precise definition or a means to calculate it

I'm sure KJ knows this and if he reads this post hopefully he will provide this info

it is very useful info
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Sorry, I didn't see this. Thanx for the set up, lilredrooster. :)

It is actually N0 (typed N and zero).

Not exactly or almost exactly expectation, but within 1 standard deviation, which is pretty close. If you get above 1 standard D, you are starting to get towards the outer edges of the bell curve. You know, not impossible, but pretty unlikely....like a guy winning all his baccarat trips for a couple years. :/

Since we are talking roulette, an example would be that with a small sample size it would not be unusual to hit blacks at a 2-1 ratio, say 10 out of 15 spins, but with a larger sample size you are not going to continue to hit at 2-1 ratio. It is going to come back down towards "normal" or expectation, meaning within 1 standard deviation.

Now what that N0 would be for something like roulette, I haven't a clue. I am sure there is a formula for it that Wizard, teliot, doghand or someone can post. That is beyond me. I am stupid and just use the software. (for blackjack) LOL>
lilredrooster
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February 9th, 2021 at 1:27:42 AM permalink
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thanks KJ


Heatmap:


you are referring to visual prediction
pretty interesting stuff
I tried it briefly but watching the spinning wheel got me dizzy and I gave it up - I didn't succeed

it would be interesting if you could recount some of your experiences and post about your long term results

thanks, if you care to do this




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Ace2
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February 9th, 2021 at 7:09:55 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Funny thing is,
for the 8th spin there was less
than half as many chips bet
as for the 7th, It's like everybody
knew it was over.

Not surprising at all. Most people can just feel when a one in a billion streak is about to end
Itís all about making that GTA
heatmap
heatmap
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February 9th, 2021 at 10:02:33 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

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thanks KJ


Heatmap:


you are referring to visual prediction
pretty interesting stuff
I tried it briefly but watching the spinning wheel got me dizzy and I gave it up - I didn't succeed

it would be interesting if you could recount some of your experiences and post about your long term results

thanks, if you care to do this




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thats actually the skill of VB - to be able to stare at a spinning wheel for hours. I can do that - but actually dont WANT to.

I mean i cant get on a boat for more than an hour without throwing up my lunch. I can do roller coasters, but cant do spinning rides. I just cant explain my ability to stare at the wheel for so long though.

i maybe have a total of a quarter of a years time invested in watching a wheel spin though.

RRS messes everything up. I also dont ever play roulette any more unless im just actually gambling. ive seen some stuff.

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