The Adventures of MDawg
Quote: coachbellyOnly if...
1) I can convince MDawg to meet me
2) I fly out there and meet him
3) I can get Tom to pay me what he owes me
Pretty weak hustle...does that really sound like a hustle to you?
there are hustles and there are hustles
Quote: MDawgI won't be here all the way to the 18th I don't think. More like the 15th.
That puts a time squeeze on both me and Tom, but Tuesday flights are the cheapest so I have that going for me, which is nice.
If not this week, then we can always do it some other time.
Tom doesn't believe you're legit...that won't change anytime soon.
Maybe some of the other naysayers would take some action if there was more time to plan.
Either way, I'm pot committed so just waiting on Tom to confirm.
Quote: coachbellyThat puts a time squeeze on both me and Tom, but Tuesday flights are the cheapest so I have that going for me, which is nice.
If not this week, we can always do it some other time.
Tom doesn't believe you're legit...that won't change anytime soon.
Maybe some of the other naysayers would take some action if there was more time to plan.
Either way, I'm pot committed so just waiting on Tom to confirm.
So you are.going to purchase your own ticket?
Then if the meeting happens TomG reimburses you correct?
You arent asking TomG to pay for the first class ticket up front are you?
"What do you play up there? Baccarat?" I asked him.
"Yes!"
"Me too. I play down there." I pointed in the general direction of the Encore high limit pit. "I like Baccarat too. I like it more than BJ."
"It's interesting...."
I could tell he was on the verge of discussing the finer points of the game with me, and I would have loved nothing less, but we reached my floor before we could get into it.
"Good luck!" on the way out of the elevator.
"You too!"
I believe you need a half million line minimum to play the Sky Casino.
Quote: darkozSo you are.going to purchase your own ticket?
Then if the meeting happens TomG reimburses you correct?
You arent asking TomG to pay for the first class ticket up front are you?
I would purchase my own ticket.
I'll send a copy of the receipt, and Tom will place my airline ticket expenses in escrow with a mutually trusted agent.
I would also place the same amount in escrow, since I offered to bet the airfare.
I'm hoping for a bonus bet as well, since I'm traveling 5000 miles, but that is to be determined.
Quote: MDawgSomeone on here made a polite introduction and request, and I encouraged him to message me to discuss further. Did not receive any message.
Are you speaking of me? Unfortunately I am not in Vegas currently. At some point if you are there and I am as well I would love to meet up for dinner or a drink. I don't care about the claims or what people think you lie about. I have met around 40 people from this site and enjoy meeting new people. As you are in Vegas a lot maybe later this year our timeline will intersect.
I think you asked if anyone knew me or if I was trustworthy. As I said I have met about 40 people on here and I like to think of myself as trustworthy, however I am not looking for anything or to even watch you play. You have been such a polarizing person on here that I think a meet would be fun.
Personalities sometimes come across as excessive online.
As far as your mention about covering the dinner or drink or whatever I wouldn't have any problem with that. (Honestly, it would be comp'ed anyway.)
Perhaps others would also like to get in on it, maybe coachbelly could book enough total action to cover transportation costs ticket.
Quote: coachbellyTom doesn't believe you're legit...that won't change anytime soon.
Where have I ever said anything that would have you think that? (If I have done so, it must have been a long time ago, before I good understanding of MDawg's methods). If he wasn't legit, he wouldn't be telling us all of this stuff. Because he is telling us all if that, that means we all know it is legitimate. You seem to be the one who wants to disagree with everything.
Quote: TomGCoachbelly says... that MDawg would not back down from having someone observe his Advantage Play and even offers to bet on it. I am willing to accept that bet.
Let's clear up the misunderstanding.
You are correct...I am saying that MDawg would not back down from someone (namely me) observing his play.
I am willing to bet on it, and you are willing to accept the bet.
You would be betting against my meeting with MDawg.
I'm betting that he wouldn't back down (that he would meet me), you are betting that he would back down (that he would decline to meet me).
The relevant quotes are below...please explain the misunderstanding.
Quote: TomGThere seems to be very little chance MDawg would ever meet up with someone from here for them to witness his Advantage Play.
Quote: coachbellyI'll bet you my first-class roundtrip airfare EWR-LAS, plus a negotiated commission, that MDawg would meet me next week.
Quote: TomGI'll take that bet. Meetup with MDawg sometime between now and next Thursday and I can pay you whatever amount we agree to in person in Las Vegas.
Quote: MDawgI skimmed through the above looks like the bet is over that coachbelly will or will not meet me in Vegas
I am not an interested party in this in that I get nothing out of it, but if someone else wishes to take a look at what was agreed to, I can't see how he would see anything different.
Obviously after flying all that distance Coach and I are going to spend more than a few seconds together, and I have no problem with his sitting by me at the tables, but beyond that Tom said MDawg would never meet Coach, and Coach said that yes MDawg would meet Coach, there was nothing more to the bet.
Whatever else might have been discussed before or after the bet itself was made, was extraneous, and would probably be excluded by any application of a parole evidence rule, I would imagine - if a wager could be enforced legally, that is.
If someone is wondering why I'd meet Coach, or GWAE, without any $50K cage deposit play conditions...well, we are talking about different people, different circumstances. I never liked Michael99000's snide attitude and I always felt that he was presenting a fraudulent front, so I called him on it to put his money where his mouth is, and sure enough, he whiffed. Michael99000 is probably not a bad guy, but he presented himself negatively here. Coach and GWAE have not presented themselves in any such negative light.
Well I guess you've had a bad experience. The reason is usually because the original point of the bet get skewed by the person making the claims.Quote: coachbelly
In my experience, it's always the APs who find a reason to back down.
For example, you have someone making a claim they can predict the outcome of a coin flip 5 times in a row on demand.
Now an advantage player comes along and says no you can't I'll bet you $5,000 at 10 to 1 you can't.
Now the person making that claim suddenly wants 32 to 1. Or perhaps they say okay, but, you have to come up with a hundred billion dollars and you have to use their coin. Yeah, I know, that's a little exaggerated, but I'm sure you get the point.
If they truly have some extra ability they shouldn't need close or above the true rods odds to prove they can do something.
Quote: MDawgThe terms of the coach / Tom bet were very clear.
Thank you, counselor, for your pro bono time spent on behalf of this forum.
Quote: AxelWolfWell I guess you've had a bad experience. The reason is usually because the original point of the bet get skewed by the person making the claims.
For example....
Conjecture is pointless for the purposes of this dialogue.
It would work better if you cited an example of something that actually happened.
I certainly could but I'm too lazy, and it doesn't sound very fun to go back and find the threads and posts.Quote: coachbellyConjecture is pointless for the purposes of this dialogue.
It would work better if you cited an example of something that actually happened.
You can direct me to some examples Advantage players backing out. If The person's really is an advantage player and they backed out, I have a feeling there's a darn good reason.
Don't bother with the -1% and coming ahead after a million hands on video poker thing. It was obvious to me Mickey was talking about a million hands betting the same unit size on single line video poker.
p.s s I'm pretty confident you or anybody reputable will never observe MD sitting with $50,000 making big bets for any over a good number of times.
He was here for quite a while and The Wizard said he was open to meeting up with him and I mention that fact but there was just some excuse, crickets or something like that.
Quote: AxelWolfYou can direct me to some examples Advantage players backing out. If The person's really is an advantage player and they backed out, I have a feeling there's a darn good reason.
How about you refusing to meet MD because of decorum or couthness or whatever your excuse was?
Quote: AxelWolfI'm pretty confident you or anybody reputable will never observe MD sitting with $50,000 making big bets for any over a good number of times.
Is this one of those uses where "or" means both?
Quote: PokerGrinderThis thread went from interesting fiction to really boring very quick.
Do you prefer more trip reports, so you can get back to insulting the reporter?
I think you owe the guy an apology for many of the comments that you directed at him.
Did he insult you in response to your trip reports?...did anyone?
Quote: PokerGrinderThis thread went from interesting fiction to really boring very quick. Coach he’s not betting you a first class ticket and Tom he’s not taking your $50 bet. Now can we get back to Mdawg telling us about the flows of shoes, hit and runs and playing the patterns?!?
My apologies. I'll take the bet for $1400 -- cost of a first class ticket, plus $500. But it's not for merely "meeting up", it's for MDawg to demonstrate Advantage Play (as this was my original claim: https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/trip-reports/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/94/#post753712). I'll even put the money is escrow with Wizard or someone else. Coachbelly is actually betting against his own claims that Advantage Players always back out. He takes whatever position is in disagreement with anyone. Isn't that the definition of trolling?
Quote: TomGI'll take the bet for $1400 -- cost of a first class ticket, plus $500. But it's not for merely "meeting up", it's for MDawg to demonstrate Advantage Play (as this was my original claim:
I hadn't considered MDawg to be an AP, so I'm not betting against myself to troll, or whatever you are implying.
But your original claim was "HIS Advantage Play"
So whatever playing strategy he uses would qualify...correct?
I'll get back to you with the actual cost of the airfare.
Quote: coachbellyDo you prefer more trip reports, so you can get back to insulting the reporter?
I think you owe the guy an apology for many of the comments that you directed at him.
Did he insult you in response to your trip reports?...did anyone?
I prefer to say mocking his ideas of how to beat the house edge without anything that would actually affect the house edge. I have said I don’t believe his posts and I have said I don’t like his ego but I have never outwardly insulted him. 0% chance of me apologizing as I have absolutely nothing to apologize for.
Quote: PokerGrinderI have never outwardly insulted him.
The quotes below are not personal insults, because you trashed his ego...as though his ego is a separate entity from himself as a person?
Is that your position?
Quote: PokerGrinderG-d your ego is beyond nauseating.
Quote: PokerGrinderI honestly don’t know how anyone could stand to be around a guy like Mdawg. His ego would be unbearable in person.
Quote: coachbellyThe quotes below are not personal insults, because you trashed his ego...as though his ego is a separate entity from himself as a person?
Is that your position?
He talks about himself in the third person, talks about how amazing he is, all the upper class people he hangs with, flaunts his high end stuff and cash and shows all the amazing (his words not mine) suites he gets comped and you don’t think he has a big ego? Hell he probably gets off on me talking about his ego. People like Mdawg love being talked about good or bad.
What the hell are you talking about? When did we have a bet and now I refuse to meet him? That is what you and I were talking about, is it not?Quote: coachbellyHow about you refusing to meet MD because of decorum or couthness or whatever your excuse was?
Are you not comprehending the entire picture? It seems like you're just grasping at straws.
Please go back and try to comprehend everything.
I was in favor of meeting him initially, but it was obvious he didn't want to meet up with me. He basically said so from the beginning. He then recently said....
Quote: MDawgAnd this is more of the reason why I'd have no interest in meeting you. Perhaps you're not so dislikable in person though, but I don't think I will ever find out.
Only after he decided to DOX someone (or whatever you want to call it) I basically turned what he said to me back around on him. It was meant as somewhat of a parody. I say somewhat, because, it does bring a little concern. Doing what he did was a malicious tactic that could quite possibly be showing his true nature. I can only imagine what kind of BS he might try if I was able to out him as not being the person he makes himself out to be.
As far as your last question goes, I'm assuming that is some type of grammar police crap. If so, you should know by now that stuff is lost on me as I don't really care. If I get my point across, that's all I really care about.
MDawg, do you "love" being characterized as "nauseating" and "unbearable"?Quote: PokerGrinderHell he probably gets off on me talking about his ego. People like Mdawg love being talked about good or bad.
Quote: HugoSlaviaMDawg, do you "love" being characterized as "nauseating" and "unbearable"?
Looks like two personal insults to me, but I got away with two yesterday.
Quote: WatchMeWinMDawg, I havent read most of this thread and dont plan to... however I notice alot of traction with your betting, ego, etc. If you really want to win with a winner, come to the east coast and lets rock it! Im the BEST!
btw, regarding sports, I gave you 2 winners earlier this week . Another winner tonight. Never a doubt, no seat, easy breezey play!
Sorry WMW. MDawg is better than you and the rest of us in every way $:o)Quote: WatchMeWinMDawg, I havent read most of this thread and dont plan to... however I notice alot of traction with your betting, ego, etc. If you really want to win with a winner, come to the east coast and lets rock it! Im the BEST!
https://www.onlineunitedstatescasinos.com/las-vegas/games/baccarat/
As far as Axel, I believe in the other thread DarkO is accusing Axel of spreading lies about him. I think it's more that once Axel makes his mind up about something even after he realizes that he is in the wrong he just keeps posting the same thing. For example, in this thread Axel knows MDawg is at the casinos daily playing with $50K lines and yet he keeps posting that he wants to see proof. The rest of us are all well beyond that "is he a high roller" issue by now. The only issue that remains, which is essentially let's face it unprovable, is whether MDawg is a lifetime winner at gambling. He is! I actually do have win/loss statements from the past somewhere but even if I found and posted them someone would claim I doctored them I am sure. I need to find those things though, unless maybe? the casinos keep records going back to the very late '90s?
My record back then wasn't nearly as plus plus as it is these days. Back then I'd always end up ahead but with some big losses at different casinos that were eclipsed by even larger wins at others. Looking back there were some casinos at which I almost always won, and others at which I much less frequently won. If I'd only thought about it, I could've avoided the losses by avoiding certain casinos, with the common denominator being that I won consistently at casinos that had lots of Bacc. tables, seemed to lose more consistently at casinos with only 1 or 2 tables. (For example this trip, I avoided Bacc. at T.I. because they have but one Bacc. table open.) When there are lots of Bacc. tables it is easy to just get up and switch tables if the table you are at has a bad shoe going on. Not so easy to get up and walk out the door entirely, when the casino has but one Bacc. table!
These days it is more of an even keel with consistent wins, at all casinos at which I play. It's really not that hard to win four figures when you are playing with a mid five figure credit line.
As far as the bet between Coach and Tom, Tom is now trying to make it about witnessing "advantage play" whatever that means, despite that the offer and acceptance were clearly just about whether or not MDawg would meet with Coach in Vegas. So, either Tom got a little ahead of himself in accepting the wager, or he is trying to get out of it now.
Back to the trip report, I'll mention the obvious...that Wynn/Encore is more luxurious than Palms which is in turn more luxurious than T.I. I think that's partly to do with the atmosphere and decor, partly to do with the layout of the rooms. All these mirrors! and floor to ceiling glass windows. Nice. If you ever want to get lucky arrange to meet that new girl you just met on the internet at Encore, you'll do fine. Or if you want a happy wife (happy life), bring her to Wynn/Encore.
Is there any other casino in the U.S. that has glass walls that permit an outside view?
Quote: MDawgIs there any other casino in the U.S. that has glass walls that permit an outside view?
The Lodge Casino in Black Hawk CO and Magnolia Bluffs Casino in Natchez MS - among others.
Quote: MDawgIs there any other casino in the U.S. that has glass walls that permit an outside view?
This one does
www.theoceanac.com
That's cool that you're capable of empathy, although you'll need a lot of it on this forum. I could be wrong as I don't look at every topic, but we appear to have an abundance of members with telltale indicators such as alcoholism and smoking. Especially the loudmouths.Quote: MDawgInsults from PokerGrinder...as mentioned previously:
Regarding gaming floor views, I think there must be some spectacular ones elsewhere nationwide. Several of the Laughlin properties look out toward the Colorado River. Many casino riverboats are laid out with windows, although I'm not sure if any of them still cruise.
I had no clue you ever suffered with any depression. You always seemed overly happy whenever I have interacted with you.Quote: PokerGrinderI would just like to point out that although I deal with depression I am not a wounded bird lol. Many people have depression, I am a fully functioning human who takes his suspensions like an adult when they come.
FYI losing out on some tranny boy action and being a little sad about it doesn't constitute depression (-:
Quote: PokerGrinderEveryone make sure you avoid the losing casinos and only play at the winning casinos!
Why, yes, I do try to avoid Indian casinos as much as possible, thanks.
Avoid Chinese prison decks at all costs. Don't play on weekends or holidays since the casinos cheat players those days.Quote: TigerWuWhy, yes, I do try to avoid Indian casinos as much as possible, thanks.
This is according to Zenking of course, your experience may vary.
Quote: AxelWolfI had no clue you ever suffered with any depression. You always seemed overly happy whenever I have interacted with you.
FYI losing out on some tranny boy action and being a little sad about it doesn't constitute depression (-:
Lol oy vay Axel.
I take antidepressants which I’m open about, they keep me level. I’ve dealt with depression for most of my adult life but it doesn’t stop me from doing anything. Most of my friends just know me as you do, a happy guy.
Down some, I declared that I was going over to the next door shoe. I hit a six or so bank run right off the bat, but held onto it with just five hundred per hand, although I should have pressed, but I was gun shy from the prior shoe. Still, that run got me even, or a little ahead. The rest of the shoe was pretty much just a banker's shoe, and easy to follow. I played the entire shoe. What was interesting was that one of the Koreans came over and got killed on my shoe, in a few hands. He arrived right when the player started to run, unpredictably. As soon as he left, I got on that player run, which actually kept going, and collected. Later the Korean guy looked at the screen, shaking his head.
"To lose, on a shoe like that."
It really was a good shoe. For a good Baccarat player, that just went with the flow on it, that is. I played it much too small though.
I decided to stop at the end of this shoe, ahead 1325 after commission and all that I tipped out to the dealer, probably a few hundred or so. The pit boss said, "That's good, we see you after lunch," but of course, I am not coming back. Until tomorrow.
Paid marker:
Paid marker plus winnings:
On the way up the Tower Suites elevator, I ran into this really hot Jewish girl I have seen before in VIP. She had an attendant with her and they were carting up a few boxes and a garbage bag.
"Where's the party?" I asked her.
She explained that it was all kosher food. I quickly realized that it was Friday.
"Shabbat Shalom!" I said to her loudly.
I'm not even Jewish, but I'll ride with it if the times call for it. You gotta understand that MDawg, whatever age he might be, looks about twenty five. That's the age my host at Cosmo thought I was, until he was told my actual by his assistant. (I made a deal a couple decades ago where neither my portrait at home, nor I, age. Constant exercise, great nutrition, lots of sex and staying out of the sun help too.)
So smiled broadly and started telling me about how "they have NO food for us here" and complained about how even with all the "stupid Israelis" who play here, that none of them have pushed for kosher food.
And that's what I mean, as far as today's action (at the tables, not in the elevator), about how it's much easier to win at a casino with multiple open Baccarat tables. Not happening at one, move to another. Mazel Tov!
Quote: MDawgPlayed just two shoes. First one wasn't any good, random. I held my own because I avoided some hands, bet small and simply got lucky occasionally, but there were no streaks or patterns to speak of. A group of Koreans came up in the middle of this shoe and proceeded to get annihilated.
Down some, I declared that I was going over to the next door shoe. I hit a six or so bank run right off the bat, but held onto it with just five hundred per hand, although I should have pressed, and that got me even, or a little ahead. The rest of the shoe was pretty much just a banker's shoe, and easy to follow. I played the entire shoe. What was interesting was that one of the Koreans came over and got killed on my shoe, in a few hands. He arrived right when the player started to run, unpredictably. As soon as he left, I got on that player run, which actually kept going, and collected. Later the Korean guy looked at the screen, shaking his head.
"To lose, on a shoe like that."
It really was a good shoe. For a good Baccarat player, that just went with the flow on it, that is.
I decided to stop at the end of this shoe, ahead 1325 after commission and all that I tipped out to the dealer, probably a few hundred or so. The pit boss said, "That's good, we see you after lunch," but of course, I am not coming back. Until tomorrow.
Paid marker:
Paid marker plus winnings:
On the way up the Tower Suites elevator, I ran into this really hot Jewish girl I have seen before in VIP. She had an attendant with her and they were carting up a few boxes and a garbage bag.
"Where's the party?" I asked her.
She explained that it was all kosher food. I quickly realized that it was Friday.
"Shabbat Shalom!" I said to her loudly.
I'm not even Jewish, but I'll ride with it if the times call for it. You gotta understand that MDawg, whatever age he might be, looks about twenty five. That's the age my host at Cosmo thought I was, until he was told my actual by his assistant. (I made a deal a couple decades ago where neither my portrait at home, nor I, age. Constant exercise, great nutrition, lots of sex and staying out of the sun help too.)
So smiled broadly and started telling me about how "they have NO food for us here" and complained about how even with all the "stupid Israelis" who play here, that none of them have pushed for kosher food.
And that's what I mean, as far as today's action (at the tables, not in the elevator), about how it's much easier to win at a casino with multiple open Baccarat tables. Not happening at one, move to another. Mazel Tov!
LOL
Jewish people who are sticklers for Kosher do so 7 days a week.
Quote: BozSomewhere Rig is crying, knowing he quit this site in vain because we are continuing to jack this guys ego off (figuratively not literally) by reading this fictional tale of how to win at Baccarat consistently.
Except that Rig quit when he had to read about factual plays being exposed.
Apparently fictional plays didnt bother him
Oh shoot I guess PokerGrinder needs to make a stop at the grocery store to buy bagels otherwise PokerGrinder can’t have lox in the morning.
Actually, don't ever get on the Strip at all, take a side street like Koval, Paradise or the equivalent on the west side, unless you're in a good mood as I was, simply taking in the Friday evening vibe on the way back to Encore.
DarkO, I think the really religious Jews would be inside by now, for the Sabbath, with a servant doing everything for them, even turning the lights on and off.
Not sure if I mentioned this before, I think I did. We haven't heard from Michael since he got doxxed.Quote: BozSomewhere Rig is crying, knowing he quit this site in vain because we are continuing to jack this guys ego off (figuratively not literally) by reading this fictional tale of how to win at Baccarat consistently.
