LuckoftheIrish
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September 30th, 2010 at 3:47:42 PM permalink
Does anybody have a baccarat simulator that can reproduce shoes with card values just like the Wizard's 2000 he has for 6 deck and 8 deck no his other site?
AverageJOE
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October 1st, 2010 at 11:35:40 AM permalink
Wizard´s 2000 is a joke if it is baccarat results and no need to use them at all - hit www.random.org and get any sampel you want - click on numbers then advance and make your settings.
PS it is all natural pure random based upon noise and if you succed with does sampels you will find the same when you visit your casino - no difference at all ...

With the fluctation and the nature of random events the distribution will unfold it self and never be due against or wiith any thing you develop.
The tiny difference with B/P would make no difference and random.org is free - you can download sampels of 100 000 a day if you want.

If you need simulation software i recommend roulette extreme from UX software.
Pick tabel with out zero and play RNG or does TRNGs from random.org wish you can load into RX.

Save file as 1 and 2 or if simulation software 0 to 36 ...

1
1
1
2
2
1
1
2
1
2
1
2
1
1
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1
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O_o
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.
Garnabby
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September 18th, 2011 at 8:57:41 PM permalink
New installment at http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QUL3AO60 .

Test #3, for checking the frequencies of any specific streak; and the most-likely following streaks of the same length. (Like that OC-40 stuff, though i doubt it was actually computer-programmed as claimed.)

Some of the new stats aren't functional yet, lost a bit of planned time this weekend after a power-outage.

As usual, try out the smaller parameters first to see how things work.
Why bet at all, if you can be sure? Anyway, what constitutes a "good bet"? - The best slots-game in town; a sucker's edge; or some gray-area blackjack-stunts? (P.S. God doesn't even have to exist to be God.)
guido111
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September 18th, 2011 at 9:12:46 PM permalink
Quote: LuckoftheIrish

Does anybody have a baccarat simulator that can reproduce shoes with card values just like the Wizard's 2000 he has for 6 deck and 8 deck no his other site?


Try the Baccarat Simulator also in Winstats. It is a free program. It is for stats and shoes only at present. No betting systems module at present.
Programmer has not released the source code. Shoes do not use a casino shuffle.
Window/Simulations/Baccarat
Winstats
There is not yet a complete user manual, most menus should be easy to understand. Has a help file.

Lots of stats. Can select items to be displayed. Run 1 shoe or 10,000 or more and print results.
added: newest version now has a Wizard's style Baccarat shoe result
example: Winstats Baccarat Shoe
Shoe#, Game#, Result, Player total, Banker total, player 3 cards, Banker 3 Cards
1,1,T,4,4,4,7,3,3,K,A
1,2,B,5,6,3,2,T,6,Q,-
1,3,P,5,0,3,2,Q,9,3,8
1,4,B,2,3,T,2,J,5,8,K
1,5,P,8,2,6,2,-,3,9,-
1,6,B,0,5,A,9,Q,7,3,5
1,7,P,9,6,T,J,9,K,6,-
1,8,B,4,8,A,3,-,K,8,-
1,9,B,7,8,7,Q,-,8,4,6
1,10,T,7,7,2,9,6,8,5,4
1,11,B,6,8,6,Q,-,8,2,8
1,12,P,9,7,A,9,9,6,A,-
1,13,B,2,4,3,2,7,Q,5,9
1,14,B,1,6,8,4,9,5,A,-
1,15,P,6,1,Q,6,-,J,3,8
1,16,B,3,5,6,4,3,6,7,2
1,17,B,2,5,3,8,A,5,T,-
1,18,B,0,2,J,4,6,T,K,2
1,19,B,4,9,J,4,-,9,J,-
1,20,P,9,1,9,J,-,Q,A,-
1,21,B,6,7,9,7,-,Q,7,-
1,22,B,2,9,9,3,K,K,T,9
1,23,P,6,2,6,5,5,Q,T,2
1,24,B,0,9,T,T,-,4,5,-
1,25,P,8,7,Q,5,3,6,A,-
1,26,P,6,1,Q,Q,6,K,A,J
1,27,P,6,0,7,9,-,3,7,Q
1,28,P,9,6,K,4,5,4,2,-
1,29,B,2,8,7,5,-,8,J,-
1,30,P,5,0,K,A,4,2,K,8
1,31,P,7,4,2,5,-,7,7,T
1,32,B,5,9,J,5,-,Q,9,-
1,33,B,3,7,Q,T,3,8,9,-
1,34,B,1,3,A,K,T,8,5,T
1,35,T,8,8,8,Q,-,A,7,-
1,36,P,3,1,6,4,3,A,J,Q
1,37,B,0,6,2,T,8,3,3,-
1,38,P,9,0,5,4,-,K,T,-
1,39,B,5,7,A,9,5,K,J,7
1,40,B,3,7,7,4,2,K,7,-
1,41,P,9,1,Q,9,-,A,Q,-
1,42,P,7,6,7,K,-,4,2,-
1,43,B,0,7,7,6,7,8,5,4
1,44,B,2,6,2,J,K,3,T,3
1,45,B,6,9,T,6,-,A,8,-
1,46,P,8,2,4,4,-,9,3,-
1,47,B,8,9,7,A,-,J,9,-
1,48,B,0,9,Q,T,-,6,3,-
1,49,B,0,8,J,T,-,A,7,-
1,50,B,3,9,A,2,-,T,9,-
1,51,P,8,1,T,8,-,A,Q,-
1,52,P,8,0,K,3,5,6,5,9
1,53,P,8,0,9,9,-,Q,Q,-
1,54,P,6,0,9,3,4,J,2,8
1,55,B,1,8,7,8,6,5,5,8
1,56,T,2,2,J,J,2,4,8,T
1,57,P,4,1,T,4,J,7,6,8
1,58,B,0,9,5,5,-,3,6,-
1,59,P,7,2,Q,K,7,6,6,K
1,60,P,5,3,8,2,5,T,3,T
1,61,P,7,1,J,7,-,8,3,K
1,62,P,2,1,A,Q,A,4,7,K
1,63,P,7,0,7,K,-,2,9,9
1,64,P,7,2,Q,7,-,K,Q,2
1,65,T,8,8,2,6,-,5,3,-
1,66,P,7,2,8,9,-,A,3,8
1,67,T,6,6,6,K,-,6,K,-
1,68,T,2,2,4,J,8,J,2,T
1,69,B,0,6,K,2,8,8,4,4
1,70,P,8,0,4,T,4,J,J,J
1,71,B,6,8,A,5,-,7,A,-
1,72,B,1,4,9,2,K,T,J,4
1,73,B,0,9,T,T,-,6,3,-
1,74,P,7,3,A,6,-,K,A,2
1,75,B,8,9,2,Q,6,Q,5,4
1,76,B,1,8,3,A,7,4,9,5
1,77,P,8,7,9,4,5,5,K,2
1,78,P,9,8,7,2,-,6,2,-
1,79,P,5,1,4,A,J,J,A,Q
2,1,P,7,6,7,Q,-,J,6,-
2,2,P,9,1,4,5,-,3,8,-
2,3,B,1,5,7,5,9,5,J,-
2,4,P,9,8,A,8,-,3,5,-
2,5,B,6,7,8,6,2,4,T,3
2,6,T,6,6,9,7,-,8,8,-
2,7,P,6,1,7,9,-,8,2,A
2,8,T,6,6,A,9,6,9,6,A
2,9,B,0,9,J,J,-,K,9,-
2,10,B,3,4,4,A,8,3,8,3
2,11,B,0,9,8,2,-,T,9,-
2,12,T,7,7,J,7,-,7,Q,-
2,13,P,6,1,Q,6,-,7,4,K
2,14,B,5,8,5,K,-,8,T,-
2,15,P,8,4,T,A,7,9,4,A
2,16,B,1,9,6,5,-,K,9,-
2,17,P,6,2,6,J,-,3,A,8
2,18,P,8,0,3,5,-,K,K,-
2,19,P,9,4,9,K,-,6,8,-
2,20,P,7,0,Q,7,-,K,K,K
2,21,P,4,2,6,9,9,2,T,K
2,22,P,8,7,J,K,8,Q,7,-
2,23,B,6,9,4,K,2,4,6,9
2,24,B,2,7,2,2,8,8,9,-
2,25,P,2,1,J,2,J,J,A,J
2,26,T,6,6,5,A,-,K,3,3
2,27,P,5,1,Q,T,5,J,4,7
2,28,P,7,4,9,A,7,7,9,8
2,29,B,6,7,2,J,4,T,4,3
2,30,P,4,0,Q,Q,4,2,8,T
2,31,B,5,6,Q,Q,5,7,9,-
2,32,B,4,8,5,9,-,9,9,-
2,33,P,6,3,Q,A,5,6,4,3
2,34,P,9,4,5,4,-,8,6,-
2,35,B,2,9,J,2,-,3,6,-
2,36,P,8,3,7,A,-,3,K,-
2,37,B,1,4,Q,J,A,7,4,3
2,38,P,2,1,K,K,2,3,T,8
2,39,B,2,5,A,A,T,4,A,-
2,40,B,3,7,T,3,T,K,7,-
2,41,P,6,4,A,Q,5,J,4,K
2,42,B,8,9,8,K,-,Q,9,-
2,43,P,9,0,3,6,-,Q,Q,-
2,44,P,5,3,7,6,2,T,3,Q
2,45,B,5,7,5,5,5,2,9,6
2,46,P,9,0,9,3,7,T,J,T
2,47,B,6,9,6,6,4,3,A,5
2,48,P,7,4,7,Q,-,J,J,4
2,49,P,3,2,3,Q,J,4,6,2
2,50,P,7,6,7,Q,-,K,A,5
2,51,P,6,0,Q,6,-,K,T,Q
2,52,B,1,6,5,6,J,4,2,-
2,53,B,5,8,8,2,5,K,T,8
2,54,P,7,4,Q,4,3,5,7,2
2,55,B,0,7,A,A,8,6,A,-
2,56,B,4,8,4,K,-,2,6,-
2,57,P,8,3,6,2,-,9,4,-
2,58,B,6,7,6,K,-,7,T,-
2,59,B,0,9,T,J,-,4,5,-
2,60,P,8,2,A,7,-,7,5,-
2,61,B,5,8,T,4,A,9,3,6
2,62,B,0,9,J,2,8,A,J,8
2,63,B,3,6,8,3,2,3,3,-
2,64,B,5,6,8,4,3,Q,6,-
2,65,B,4,8,4,Q,-,8,K,-
2,66,B,1,6,Q,T,A,2,8,6
2,67,B,6,8,6,Q,-,A,4,3
2,68,P,4,3,5,9,T,T,3,K
2,69,B,0,9,7,3,-,9,T,-
2,70,B,2,6,J,2,Q,6,Q,-
2,71,P,7,0,2,5,-,2,9,9
2,72,B,1,6,4,7,T,8,4,4
2,73,B,6,7,9,7,-,5,2,-
2,74,P,8,1,9,9,-,T,A,-
2,75,P,8,1,8,J,-,A,J,-
2,76,P,5,3,T,T,5,Q,5,8
2,77,B,1,7,K,J,A,4,3,-
2,78,P,6,3,6,K,-,A,2,J
2,79,P,8,0,3,5,-,T,T,-
2,80,B,2,7,J,2,T,7,T,-


Also the many statistics can be unchecked to print to a document just the shoes and stats a user wants
Enjoy

Winstats, It is similar to Garnabbys nice program that he offers but does not offer the code at this time as does Garnabby.
Garnabbys program also uses a casino shuffle and can produce consecutive shuffled shoes. A cool feature if you are looking for casino shuffles.
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September 19th, 2011 at 12:22:44 PM permalink
Quote: guido111

It is similar to Garnabbys nice program that he offers but does not offer the code at this time as does Garnabby.
Garnabbys program also uses a casino shuffle and can produce consecutive shuffled shoes. A cool feature if you are looking for casino shuffles.



Garnabby's simulator is here, if anyone is looking for it. I downloaded it a while ago but never compiled or tested it. I got it from another Baccarat message board, where the program's author was making it available for people to test their systems with (a system player himself, he'd initially written for testing his own systems). It is a .bas file, so you'll need something that can compile/run those (Visual Basic, QuickBasic, etc....). I also can't vouch for its quality because, like I said, I haven't actually used it, just downloaded it and verified that it wasn't a virus or spyware or something.
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September 19th, 2011 at 12:27:06 PM permalink
Quote: AverageJOE

Wizard´s 2000 is a joke if it is baccarat results and no need to use them at all



Care to elaborate?
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
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September 19th, 2011 at 2:43:50 PM permalink
Inserted an equal-sign to correct an insignificant problem with the print-out of the "followers" for test #3, at http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KFO2R5ZO .

Enjoy!
_____________________________________________

Download the free BASIC-compiler v1.01 at http://www.justbasic.com/download.html .

Load the simulator into the editor-window of the free compiler, which automatically opens up when clicked. (Change the EDITOR/PRINTER -fonts under SETUP to "new Courier Regular-10", so that the one matches/fits the other and the simulator.)

Much of the explanation is contained within the program, itself. With the emphasis on finally helping everyone help themselves with the programing aspect of baccarat.

Though the program is set up to process up to 35 shoes, the user may change the 35's to 999's, or even beyond... provided he/she takes the initiative to up-grade the PROGRAMSHUFFLE subroutine, left as a relatively-easy exercise. (As it stands, it's too-slow for the full number of shoes and tables.)

Join the free BASIC-language community at http://justbasic.conforums.com/index.cgi , for further assistance.

Continued advancements to this program will be completed in BASIC for everyone. (That's not my own preferred programing language, pascal, so bear with me.)
Why bet at all, if you can be sure? Anyway, what constitutes a "good bet"? - The best slots-game in town; a sucker's edge; or some gray-area blackjack-stunts? (P.S. God doesn't even have to exist to be God.)
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September 19th, 2011 at 3:00:07 PM permalink
Hi guido,

Hey, at last we meet on a board on which i am still allowed to post what i think and feel.
Quote: guido111

Programmer has not released the source code.


Is that because you basically plagiarized it (without credit) at www.baccaratforums.com a few months after i set it up as a means for baccarat-enthusiasts to finally work freely together "in the light of day"? And appear to be setting yourself up for some sales "down the road"?
Quote: guido111

Garnabbys program also uses a casino shuffle and can produce consecutive shuffled shoes. A cool feature if you are looking for casino shuffles.


Not exactly, but i intend to next provide a test to "manually" alter the shuffler-program, and the shuffling, to get more people thinking about some real ways of approaching this game. I think it goes without saying, but these sorts of approaches quickly become quite-complex.
Why bet at all, if you can be sure? Anyway, what constitutes a "good bet"? - The best slots-game in town; a sucker's edge; or some gray-area blackjack-stunts? (P.S. God doesn't even have to exist to be God.)
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September 19th, 2011 at 3:06:52 PM permalink
Quote: Garnabby

Though the program is set up to process up to 35 shoes, the user may change the 35's to 999's, or even beyond... provided he/she takes the initiative to up-grade the PROGRAMSHUFFLE subroutine, left as a relatively-easy exercise. (As it stands, it's too-slow for the full number of shoes and tables.)

That was increased to 5 X 999 shoes some time ago, after it became somewhat apparent that others were interested in privatizing the program, rather than expanding it with the help of each other, together.
Why bet at all, if you can be sure? Anyway, what constitutes a "good bet"? - The best slots-game in town; a sucker's edge; or some gray-area blackjack-stunts? (P.S. God doesn't even have to exist to be God.)
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September 19th, 2011 at 3:29:06 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Care to elaborate?



You expect a rational answer from someone who started a thread " the law of series is only observation and not a law " ?
You got a better chance of getting an answer if you ask Dan what the True Count is . LOL
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September 20th, 2011 at 11:49:36 AM permalink
Quote: Garnabby

That was increased to 5 X 999 shoes some time ago, after it became somewhat apparent that others were interested in privatizing the program, rather than expanding it with the help of each other, together.


Look into releasing your code under the GPL.
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September 21st, 2011 at 7:11:41 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Care to elaborate?



But Wiz I mean really, can this be wrong ?

To obtain my winning baccarat software, you have to pay upfront for it and share a percentage of your profits with me FOR LIFE.

If you are asking yourself why I would sell a winning System, you are not very smart. You will never know how it works nor will anyone else so I lose NOTHING by selling it and gain A LOT. I am the only person in the world who knows how my System works and I plan on keeping it that way so that I can continue using my System to make a living all over the world at Land-Based Casinos without any interference from amateur players such as yourself that always get caught at Real Casinos. Therefore, selling it does not jeopardize me in the least bit. This isn't some e-Book system whose text someone can copy. This is a hard-coded program that no one can reverse-engineer, so my secret is safe with me. You use it a Online Casinos, I use it at Land-Based Casinos, and everyone is happy.

You will also notice that you will be required to share your profits with me. This allows me to win more money than I otherwise could using it just by myself, so this is the primary reason I have released my program to the public. I also force people to pay upfront for it because I need people who actually have the bankroll and dedication necessary to win since my average user wins over $10,000 a month with my System. If you cannot afford it, then please don't write me asking for a discount as no discounts will be given - NO EXCEPTIONS. I know my System works, I know what it's worth, and so do the people who use it. My System will NOT be given away for free, so if you cannot afford my price, go find another Baccarat System which I guarantee you will make you lose.

Do not e-mail me asking for my name, details about my System, or to play together. I will never reveal my System to anyone, which is why I programmed this software entirely myself.

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My System is guaranteed to make you win.
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September 22nd, 2011 at 1:11:21 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

I use it at Land-Based Casinos, and everyone is happy.



I thought it was illegal in Nevada to use software to help you decide how to bet (why the iPhone card-counting app was disallowed).

Quote: buzzpaff

My System is guaranteed to make you win.



I don't understand at all. You repeatedly say that you won't share your system with anyone, then offer a guarantee on it. This isn't serious, is it?
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September 22nd, 2011 at 2:22:08 PM permalink
Buzzpaff, you are not the only one who has a winning system. I am another guy who has had a winning system for 15 years straight and still enjoying the profits that it generates! Sorry but that makes your guarantee void. Don't try to be bigger than you really are man. Anyway, have a nice day!
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September 22nd, 2011 at 3:06:42 PM permalink
Never kid a kidder. Can't believe anyone thought I was serious. But then again, there is a sucker born every minute. Somebody has to be buying the stuff touts are selling. LOL
But seriously, PM me if you want to but this Sundays NFL Super Special Lock of the Year. I am 19 and 0 for the last 17 years.
A real steal for just $9.95
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September 23rd, 2011 at 5:48:47 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

You expect a rational answer from someone who started a thread " the law of series is only observation and not a law " ?
You got a better chance of getting an answer if you ask Dan what the True Count is . LOL



Besides the fact that most gamblers, and certainly the ones who stay at it, have to "think" that way... what's wrong with trying to in some way overcome at least one supposedly-impossible feat, in your life? I could think of far-less fun ways to spend it.

In addition to tests #1 (burn-cards), #2 ("differentials"), and #3 (runs and followers), there is now a test #7 for the average turn-around point of runs, in my always-free baccarat-simulator at http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2S5KNHQE .

Almost all of the stats are now functional, except for the game-summary ones down the end of each column of basic-outcomes stats. Those will be finalized later when enough of the tests have been completed to best indicate those purpose(s), and nomenclature. Tests #4, 5, 6, and 8, 9, haven't yet been inserted, so will not amount to anything.

As always, i have performed minimal software quality-control on the newer addition(s). I prefer to keep things moving ahead, and deal with those sorts of problems as arise. Perhaps, after a few more additions i will make this simulator available as also a "stand alone" program.

After running the above test a few times, it seems that my prediction, at the site i admin, of a low turning-pt, or end of a run before it is eroded away, was somewhat correct. The important thing to remember is that this is true mainly when one side or the other doesn't get too-far ahead, in terms of practical, finite playing.
Why bet at all, if you can be sure? Anyway, what constitutes a "good bet"? - The best slots-game in town; a sucker's edge; or some gray-area blackjack-stunts? (P.S. God doesn't even have to exist to be God.)
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September 24th, 2011 at 8:54:01 AM permalink
Quote: Garnabby

Perhaps, after a few more additions i will make this simulator available as also a "stand alone" program.

After running the above test a few times, it seems that my prediction, at the site i admin, of a low turning-pt, or end of a run before it is eroded away, was somewhat correct. The important thing to remember is that this is true mainly when one side or the other doesn't get too-far ahead, in terms of practical, finite playing.



Still, Winstats Baccarat and Garnabby Baccarat simulators just gives stats from shoes. And now predictions.

One still can not play a shoe, program a betting strategy and run simulations.
Is not that the point of a simulator?

I see Wincraps can do that Craps, Roulette Xtreme can do that for Roulette, I have tried Baccarat Buster 2 demo and it appears you can play a shoe your way.

If you cant play a shoe what is the point of running a sim just to see a bunch of stats?

Maybe the Wizard should put together a suite of casino game simulators that would put all the others to shame. (Maybe not better than qfit BJ. That is top of the line stuff).
He could even sell it through his site.

I would trust his software to be accurate and useful and buy it in a heart beat.
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September 24th, 2011 at 1:13:17 PM permalink
" Besides the fact that most gamblers, and certainly the ones who stay at it, have to "think" that way... what's wrong with trying to in some way overcome at least one supposedly-impossible feat, in your life? I could think of far-less fun ways to spend it."

Why not spend that time learning to play hold-em poker, Or enter a satellite and win an entry to WSOP. Why not chase a longshot,
instead of an impossible dream ? If poker, when played right, especially no limit a 2&7 can chase Aces away. But no matter how many simulations you run, at the end of the day, 2 plus 2 still equals 4 !!!
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September 30th, 2011 at 6:35:16 PM permalink
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Look into releasing your code under the GPL.


Thanks for the suggestion. I checked it out, and will give it a shot.

Quote: mustangsally

If you cant play a shoe what is the point of running a sim just to see a bunch of stats?


Perhaps, you meant which allow you to easily program your various methods for the purpose of testing? Whereas, statistics can guide us directly to some useful methods; or at least, let us know early if, and where, none exist.

New version at http://www.megaupload.com/?d=99949SM7 .

A number of the run-time errors encountered to date have been repaired; and the simulator's scope has been pretty-much defined and encompassed, accounting for the future additions. Definitely over that "hump" of having to make a bunch of adjustments to the old stuff to bring that into alignment with the new.

A new test #11 has been added, to look at how easy it is to usually gain a few wins a shoe but suddenly "return the favor in full" now and then. Like test #7, perhaps, if we can better understand how far to "push our luck", then all we need to do is overcome the most-extreme parts of the bad shoes. Easier than than pursuing a "consistently-winning" system?

For the baccarat-purists, my game-classification system (of two symbols on the end to summarize each outcome) has been completed but has not yet been fully and properly -implemented. Likely by next weekend. And a reminder, for the new readers, only the tests #1, 2, 3, 7, and 11, are functional at this time.

If anyone has any idea(s) for new tests, in terms of gaming/gambling concepts in specific and general, then please let me know of. Thanks.
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September 30th, 2011 at 6:58:13 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

Why not spend that time learning to play hold-em poker, Or enter a satellite and win an entry to WSOP. Why not chase a longshot,
instead of an impossible dream ? If poker, when played right, especially no limit a 2&7 can chase Aces away. But no matter how many simulations you run, at the end of the day, 2 plus 2 still equals 4 !!!



Well, that's a hard one to explain. A month's spare time to set it up in the spring; and another's now, again to keep it free and open. Maybe it's "worth it" if it only discourages a few of the uninitiated from some of these games, and the less-reputable internet-sites and proponents of? Beyond that, i harbor no illusions or undue expectations of beating this game (in theory). But will we ever really know who we are until we honestly try out a "no-win scenario"? That's my personal fun and challenge here, "What would i do if i had to do something".

Everything else aside, at the poker-table, maybe; and in real life, the strongest are destined to win. "Water seeks out the path of least resistance." What's so interesting about that, out of the grand scheme of things?
Why bet at all, if you can be sure? Anyway, what constitutes a "good bet"? - The best slots-game in town; a sucker's edge; or some gray-area blackjack-stunts? (P.S. God doesn't even have to exist to be God.)
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October 5th, 2011 at 5:07:34 PM permalink
New version at http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0OY62VHJ .

Added banker-commission to test #11, along with the other banker's gains/losses while randomly trying to gain X wins over one shoe. Also, added a run-of-zero checker to the run-stats. Now, those shoes without a T won't go unnoticed.

Test #13 was added to get us up to speed on the rudimentary "starts" of baccarat, the first two cards to either P, or B. (Tests #1, 2, 3, 7, 11, and 13, are functional.)

The game-outcome classifications have been completed. But as usual, not fully-proofed on the first edition.

But do your homework first. Don't spend 20 years in some dingy, tacky casino without a real plan if you're hoping to win. Simulate it, especially if it keeps changing without any definite form to begin with.
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October 8th, 2011 at 5:44:43 AM permalink
Has anyone else noticed the story about beating EZ-baccarat's dragon-bet? Perhaps, the Wizard noted it somewhere on this board but i missed that?

It's at https://wizardofodds.com/baccarat/card-counting-dragon-bet.html .

Asfaras i'm aware, others have been doing the same thing with also some of the other types of dragon-bets for some time. Which i would like to review later, though i'm mainly concerned with beating the standard game of baccarat.
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October 8th, 2011 at 8:02:21 AM permalink
Quote: Garnabby

Has anyone else noticed the story about beating EZ-baccarat's dragon-bet? Perhaps, the Wizard noted it somewhere on this board but i missed that?

It's at https://wizardofodds.com/baccarat/card-counting-dragon-bet.html .

Asfaras i'm aware, others have been doing the same thing with also some of the other types of dragon-bets for some time.



Yes.
The thread can be found here Card Counting the Dragon Side Bet in EZ Baccarat

And the Dragon7 and Dragon bets have been looked into also by discountgambling.net
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October 8th, 2011 at 8:11:31 AM permalink
Quote: Garnabby

Which i would like to review later, though i'm mainly concerned with beating the standard game of baccarat.

My thoughts on beating the game of Baccarat.
If you keep your lifetime shoes to about 18,250 played max (1 shoe every day for 50 years)
and increase your banker winning percentage from ~0.50682483 (8deck) to ~0.512820513, not counting ties of course, anything higher than 0.512820513 win percentage will be pure profit.

That is only an increase of 0.005995683

Just use your simulator and programming skills to find the situations that will increase your win percentage and you and many others will be home free.

Even the Wizard in his book "Gambling 102" tells how to gain a long term advantage over the Big 6 wheel (a very high house edge game) by just increasing your predictions of which half the wheel will land on. Should be able to apply the same thought to any game with a high payoff.
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October 14th, 2011 at 8:20:32 PM permalink
Thanks, 7craps.

I don't have a lot of free time to keep up with all of the developments across these boards, especially the busy ones. The one other thing i want to do here, in the near future, is start that thread that the Wizard repeatedly deferred me to... regarding the philosophical, ethical, and practical, aspects of, eg, entertaining a career such as his. (I prefer to tackle the "side-pots" as-arise, when my "heart" is in it; but it's his site.)

As for the rest of this thread, i have one more offering.
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Simulation-options finalized. Abort codes are "-1" for the numeric entries; "A" for the alpha-entries, to re-start entries upon a typo.

When simulating 999 shoes, an equivalent of 16 decks shall be applied. Eg, 999 1-deck shoes at 16 X's. This allows for an ample number of such shoes which, run over 5 tables, will show up the standard deviations at work to produce a satisfactory result for all intents and purposes.

Summary-symbols have been extended, and the errors from last week's offering corrected. Symbols beginning with a number indicate the low score of that natural; or the game-distance from the last tie in the case of the 9-8 and 8-9 outcomes. The latter is a bit of tinkering leading up to a more general look at the additive orientation of those outcomes. Test #15 deals with the symbols the way #3 with the P-B runs, and those followers.

Still a couple of the stats to properly attend to. Focus has shifted inward, to the remainder of the incomplete test #'s.

In the future, for anyone who remains interested in this project here, i will likely merely edit in the new versions, where possible, instead of bumping it again.
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Not much time of late, but in the interest of keepint this part of the project alive, here is some new work.

Added test #4, a general way to re-set the initial composition of the cards.

Next will be a related test to determine how often those altered compositions occur over many shoes as each card of each shoe is dealt off.

Then the specific way to determine both the advantage of a given card-count, and the frequency of such a count beginning with each new game.

As usual, i will try to correct the errors in this week's work next week.
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"Next will be a related test to determine how often those altered compositions occur over many shoes as each card of each shoe is dealt off.

Then the specific way to determine both the advantage of a given card-count, and the frequency of such a count beginning with each new game."

Those objectives have been completed in the form of tests #27 and #18, respectively, and may be freely downloaded from this link, http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FS0SJY3P .

Over the next week or two, i'm going to spend a bit of spare time cleaning up everything in the simulator so far. Thanks to the few persons who pointed out some of my errors to date. It helps move things ahead faster. It's probably about half way to a real world-class simulator. Though i will NEVER make the most-advanced work public, i will endeavor to include with my simulator some basic elements from each part of that work.

And there's bound to be some of each in the new tests as well, which were actually completed a few days ago but were not yet much run to even confirm that those would run at all. Bit-by-bit to go "onward and upward", as they say.
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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YKU6RMV0 .

Most of the corrections were to test #18. Changed the self-adjusting type count to the regular, bj-sort. And took out one line of code which was preventing the thing from working... though it did run, and with the two boundary-tests i used last week. (Goes to show that you can never be too-sure up front.)
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