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September 12th, 2010 at 4:31:24 PM permalink
As someone who has a penchant for collecting unusual things, I must say I admire the originality of what your idea. If I had any betting systems, you would be welcome to it for free. Actually, I have the $124.99 Rainsong blackjack system that I wrote about extensively that I wrote about on Wizard' rel='nofollow' target='_blank'>http://wizardofodds.com/gambling/challenge2.html]Wizard of Odds.

Would you be open to discussing trading that in exchange for an article explaining why your collect betting systems, and your results playing/testing them. I'd also be interested in which one beats flat betting and why. Maybe your thoughts about various categories of betting systems. Whatever you want to say, it would be your article. The article would be posted on Wizard of Odds, which I hardly ever accept outside material for, so I hope you might be honored at the request.
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benbakdoff
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September 12th, 2010 at 4:50:56 PM permalink
I've heard that some of these systems can be quite valuable to collectors.
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September 12th, 2010 at 7:34:27 PM permalink
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I've heard that some of these systems can be quite valuable to collectors.



Yes, I'm not surprised. People will collect anything, including me. If I knew there was a liquid market for them, I'd offer more than a nickel, and wouldn't demand the cup of the coffee. This for the same reason I wouldn't mind buying a Gutenberg Bible if one turned up at a yard sale.
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MathExtremist
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September 12th, 2010 at 8:11:23 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Yes, I'm not surprised. People will collect anything, including me.


How many people collect you?
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September 12th, 2010 at 8:58:43 PM permalink
Quote: MathExtremist

How many people collect you?



Dang, I knew I should have reworded that for clarity.
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September 12th, 2010 at 9:14:23 PM permalink
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Sorry. I already traded it for a year's supply of Extenze.



Yeah, that does it for me. Hey JB: Can we please get a Like Button?
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September 13th, 2010 at 11:24:34 AM permalink
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I can handle anything these guys say to me. I have tested more ideas and systems than most people and I know so far nothing works. I like to read the systems for fun, as some are actually funny and/or interesting.



I have nothing to trade, but I also find reading these types of "methods" is enjoyable... just for the language and extreme baloney. It's why I have John Patrick books on my shelf (along with other characters) that I've picked up for cheap.
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September 13th, 2010 at 7:12:34 PM permalink
"just for the language and extreme baloney" >>> Well mister cesspit, my wallet is damn thick. I'll take that without caring what you think. Winning in roulette is only as difficult as you make it out to be, IMO. 5.26%? Big deal. I go grocery shopping and pay taxes on that, so what? 5.26% is a TAX, nothing more. Everyone is so afraid of the big bad house advantage. Some are scared silly over it. lol Ken
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September 13th, 2010 at 7:48:38 PM permalink
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5.26% is a TAX, nothing more. Everyone is so afraid of the big bad house advantage. Some are scared silly over it. lol Ken



I guess you can look at it that way, but you are losing 5.26% of money that you already have. So it is like a 105.26% tax - not only does the casino give you no money in the long run, but it takes your money as well. So, you know, there are some very obvious problems there...
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September 14th, 2010 at 12:02:49 PM permalink
Quote: mrjjj

"just for the language and extreme baloney" >>> Well mister cesspit, my wallet is damn thick. I'll take that without caring what you think. Winning in roulette is only as difficult as you make it out to be, IMO. 5.26%? Big deal. I go grocery shopping and pay taxes on that, so what? 5.26% is a TAX, nothing more. Everyone is so afraid of the big bad house advantage. Some are scared silly over it. lol Ken



Overly sensitive much? I may not actually have been talking about you, you know. Or do I have some of your books on my shelf?

I've stated multiple times that I actually think your methods are perfectly reasonable ways to play Roulette, and I've also shown what the mathematical expectation is in the long term. If I end up playing small stakes Roulette on my next trip, I'm as likely to play my "hit the 29" as I am "two sides of the wheel" or even your "street tracker". Just for giggles. I don't expect my wallet to get thicker, but there's a chance it may.

If I have a choice, I'll avoid paying a 5.26% TAX and pay a 1.41% TAX (or less). Especially as I prefer one game over another anyways.

And it's Doctor Cesspit to you :)
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