A roulette method with teeth
September 7th, 2010 at 6:50:12 PM
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"So, to the author, please post your raw data on spins and your raw data on performance...
thanks" >>> I dont think you and I are on the same page rtpud. If you dont like this method, dont play it hotshot. How do YOU play roulette, just curious? So far, I count 5 members that STILL have not answered me. lol How THEY play the same game they are ripping on? ROFL Ken (@mkl >> Still waiting buddy. How do you play roulette in a winning manner? You dont get to have it BOTH ways).
thanks" >>> I dont think you and I are on the same page rtpud. If you dont like this method, dont play it hotshot. How do YOU play roulette, just curious? So far, I count 5 members that STILL have not answered me. lol How THEY play the same game they are ripping on? ROFL Ken (@mkl >> Still waiting buddy. How do you play roulette in a winning manner? You dont get to have it BOTH ways).
September 7th, 2010 at 6:57:25 PM
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Quote: mrjjjI count 5 members that STILL have not answered me. lol How THEY play the same game they are ripping on? ROFL Ken (@mkl >> Still waiting buddy. How do you play roulette in a winning manner? You dont get to have it BOTH ways).
Have you considered that they might NOT play the game that they are ripping on? Like maybe it has a very high house edge and they prefer more reasonable forms of gambling? Maybe that's part of the reason they rip on the game? Just a thought. Or, I guess, 3 of them.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
September 7th, 2010 at 6:57:47 PM
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Mrjjj,
Thanks for sharing the system. However, I don't see how it can change the house edge even a tiny bit.
Do you feel it makes you more likely to win in the long run? If so, why?
Thanks for sharing the system. However, I don't see how it can change the house edge even a tiny bit.
Do you feel it makes you more likely to win in the long run? If so, why?
September 7th, 2010 at 7:08:11 PM
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"Do you feel it makes you more likely to win in the long run? If so, why?" >>> I have to answer this carefully. I have had MANY methods played in the past, that I dont play anymore. But why Ken? It started to tank (or never got off the ground) so I quit playing *THAT* method. Seems correct, right? If a method is doing well (yes I know, we can debate
that definition all day long) should a person know EXACTLY why it does? I say no.
My math in general, is average so THE ONLY WAY I can continue playing this game 'well' is through trial and error. At home or with real money at the casino. Not every roulette method is the same. Anyone who THINKS this, needs to switch hobbies. Stamp collecting perhaps? I have around 6 methods (2 are private) that are STILL winning in the long run. So if I understand correctly, I should QUIT playing those? lol It makes no sense. I do 'well' and will not apologize for it, sorry bro. Ken
that definition all day long) should a person know EXACTLY why it does? I say no.
My math in general, is average so THE ONLY WAY I can continue playing this game 'well' is through trial and error. At home or with real money at the casino. Not every roulette method is the same. Anyone who THINKS this, needs to switch hobbies. Stamp collecting perhaps? I have around 6 methods (2 are private) that are STILL winning in the long run. So if I understand correctly, I should QUIT playing those? lol It makes no sense. I do 'well' and will not apologize for it, sorry bro. Ken
September 7th, 2010 at 7:12:46 PM
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"Have you considered that they might NOT play the game that they are ripping on?" >>> lol, Yep, I did think of that so back to my point/question. You have ZERO right to slam a method if YOU can not ALSO post a winning method. You do NOT get to have it both ways. What game do you play where you have the advantage OVER the house? Can you share that? Thanks, Ken
September 7th, 2010 at 7:13:24 PM
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<Mrjjj wrote, "I have around 6 methods (2 are private) that are STILL winning in the long run. So if I understand correctly, I should QUIT playing those? lol It makes no sense. I do 'well' and will not apologize for it, sorry bro. Ken">
So basically, you're telling us that you don't play very often, since six of your systems have yet to tank.
-Keyser
So basically, you're telling us that you don't play very often, since six of your systems have yet to tank.
-Keyser
September 7th, 2010 at 7:24:47 PM
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What? I answered that already, twice I think. I've been playing roulette for years and bought half a restaurant from roulette winnings. Instead of focusing on the WINNING ways, why dont you switch over to ripping on me for my losing ways, you'll feel better and might get even sleep better? I have probably 'kicked to the side' over 70 losing methods.
Lost thousands of dollars plus all the time invested BUT BUT BUT also have a few methods that are doing 'well'. I put in the time, I deserve it. There are quite a few times even on Christmas, I test methods for 10 hours, not a big deal. The only thing that bugs me a bit are the TROLLS that lurk around and get a FREE RIDE off of other peoples hard work. Yes I know what you'll say....then dont post it Ken. Perhaps.
Lost thousands of dollars plus all the time invested BUT BUT BUT also have a few methods that are doing 'well'. I put in the time, I deserve it. There are quite a few times even on Christmas, I test methods for 10 hours, not a big deal. The only thing that bugs me a bit are the TROLLS that lurk around and get a FREE RIDE off of other peoples hard work. Yes I know what you'll say....then dont post it Ken. Perhaps.
September 7th, 2010 at 7:46:03 PM
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Quote: mrjjjWhat game do you play where you have the advantage OVER the house? Can you share that? Thanks, Ken
hmmm...maybe I won't have an advantage over the house, but I can sure have one over you:)
You play roulette with a 5.26% house advantage and I'll play blackjack with a .526% house advantage. Then, I'll start counting to lower the HA in BJ even lower, and you'll still be stuck with 5.26% roulette.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
September 7th, 2010 at 8:24:07 PM
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Ok thats cool but in the LONG TERM, you'll still lose, be consistent now. It does not matter if the HA is .00000001%, you will still lose. This is what I was talking about, I find it quite funny. The SAME people who rip on the 5.26% are the SAME people who feel they CAN win in the long term playing a different game. Ok....I lose faster (I guess) but YOU will still lose. I love putting people on the spot.
I ask what roulette method they play....Deer in headlights.
I ask what game they play that THEY have the edge over the house......Deer in headlights.
I ask what roulette method they play....Deer in headlights.
I ask what game they play that THEY have the edge over the house......Deer in headlights.
September 7th, 2010 at 9:14:55 PM
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Quote: mrjjjOk thats cool but in the LONG TERM, you'll still lose, be consistent now. It does not matter if the HA is .00000001%, you will still lose. This is what I was talking about, I find it quite funny. The SAME people who rip on the 5.26% are the SAME people who feel they CAN win in the long term playing a different game. Ok....I lose faster (I guess) but YOU will still lose. I love putting people on the spot.
I ask what roulette method they play....Deer in headlights.
I ask what game they play that THEY have the edge over the house......Deer in headlights.
I still think it's silly to assume they play roulette at all. They probably don't, since they could play craps or blackjack about 10 times longer on the same amount of money.
And there ARE positive expectation games. MN (my home state) and WI dont't have them, but there are some video poker games that return more than 100%. I think full pay deuces wild pays back 100.22%. Full pay Jacks or Better (9/6) pays 99.86%, which would be 100%+ with the comps factored in. And if you can count, a good S17 blackjack game can get to a player advantage pretty easily. But the variance is very high, and the advantage is very small. So even then, it's hard to actually make money at those games.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
September 7th, 2010 at 9:34:50 PM
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So a person might last longer than me for the DAY but over 10 years, you will NOT beat the HA. Same rule for everyone, correct? I love it, I can ask how others play and I'll usually get....they play roulette (AP) or they count cards on a 6 or 8 deck show. lol, whatever. Ken
September 7th, 2010 at 11:20:58 PM
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Quote: mrjjjSo a person might last longer than me for the DAY but over 10 years, you will NOT beat the HA. Same rule for everyone, correct? I love it, I can ask how others play and I'll usually get....they play roulette (AP) or they count cards on a 6 or 8 deck show. lol, whatever. Ken
But those people are NOT claiming a winning method.
You are.
And actually, I don't need to produce a winning method to comment on yours. You may wish I can, you may say I have zero right to do so, but actually, I can and will comment on here in a free area where discussion of Betting Systems are allowed.
And we both know that a roulette wheel doesn't come out hitting every number in succession. Why? As that's not a random system. Streaks happen, but we can only see those streaks looking backwards.
However, if you are a continual winner with your six methods, good luck.
But I really this is not a forum where I expect trolls coming just to rip on a winner. It's a forum where if someone states up is down, it'll be viewed either skeptically or with derision.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
September 8th, 2010 at 5:03:18 AM
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Hey smoothie! Some of us have a life and can't be here 24/7 posting. You wanted my roulette method. Don't play high vig games sorry. If I could find a single zero, I might try throwing a D'Alembert or Alexembert at an EC. It's what I currently do with the PL at craps. Only on my nonrandom toss. Also some holecarding opportunities out there on various games. Also some bac with my friends A & A betting either OLD or straight Banker. So either real low variance or outright positeve value wager.
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
September 8th, 2010 at 8:12:14 AM
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Quote: mrjjjWhat game do you play where you have the advantage OVER the house? Can you share that? Thanks, Ken
I play a combination of slot machines and TITO redemption machines when I want to have an easy edge over the house. Redemption machines in Alberta are not set up to give exact change, they round up to the nearest $0.05. As long as I bet less than $0.05 from a $5.00 bill I can't lose! Now if only they rounded up to the nearest $1.00....
September 8th, 2010 at 11:27:52 AM
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Quote: ThoughtcastI play a combination of slot machines and TITO redemption machines when I want to have an easy edge over the house. Redemption machines in Alberta are not set up to give exact change, they round up to the nearest $0.05. As long as I bet less than $0.05 from a $5.00 bill I can't lose! Now if only they rounded up to the nearest $1.00....
Wait, so you can play $0.04 in a penny slot for free basically as long as you are willing to walk back and forth between the slot and redemption machine? And say you net $0.06 from your play you'll actually net $0.10? Ha, what an advantage play! So, have you calculated whether it is best to play 4 lines at a penny each or one line at 4 pennies (or even 2 and 2!)? What would the maximum possible payout (and its probability of hitting) for a 4 cent spin have to be in order to make this worth the effort?
Solo venimos, solo nos vamos. Y aqui nos juntamos, juntos que estamos.
September 8th, 2010 at 12:53:20 PM
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Yes progrocker, that is exactly what it means. I haven't calculated the best player advantage although I assumed it would be to play 1 line at $0.01 and to cashout as soon as your credits hit $4.96 + any multiple of $0.05.
If I had the programmed payout %s of some $0.01/$0.02 machines I could calculate the player advantage. However without those I'd rather not try and guess that edge. Regardless of how high the edge is the biggest factor against this advantage play (Ignoring the fact that you might as well walk up to staff and say you're ripping the casino off) is time. Your edge is cut down by the fact that you actually are playing for mere nickels and dimes and you will be spending at least 50% of your time at a redemption machine.
You can cut down your walking time by having a large enough bankroll of $5.00s, however I personally only execute this play when I'm looking to kill time.
If I had the programmed payout %s of some $0.01/$0.02 machines I could calculate the player advantage. However without those I'd rather not try and guess that edge. Regardless of how high the edge is the biggest factor against this advantage play (Ignoring the fact that you might as well walk up to staff and say you're ripping the casino off) is time. Your edge is cut down by the fact that you actually are playing for mere nickels and dimes and you will be spending at least 50% of your time at a redemption machine.
You can cut down your walking time by having a large enough bankroll of $5.00s, however I personally only execute this play when I'm looking to kill time.
September 8th, 2010 at 2:38:07 PM
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I imagine the casino in question has come to the same conclusion...it's not worth anyone's time. Thanks for humoring me by answering those questions. I was mostly asking them just for amusement and did not expect a serious response. I didn't even think of having a stack of bills. I take it you have to use $5 at minimum because Canadian slots don't accept loonies or toonies and five is the smallest bill, eh? This may be worthwhile if an American casino had the same policy and you could use a stack of one dollar bills instead...and no one would notice you doing it, which is unlikely.
Solo venimos, solo nos vamos. Y aqui nos juntamos, juntos que estamos.
September 8th, 2010 at 3:58:10 PM
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I would say it's certainly worth the time of some, imagine if you had a bus load of seniors that planned to play at the casino anyway and you sat them at all of the $0.01 slots doing this. However I agree, it's not worth the time of any single person as you're going to be making minimum wage at best. It's a valid strategy at most (If not all) Alberta casinos assupplies all provincial redemption machines and they do not have enough coin hoppers to cover all coin types. Yes, slots only accept bills and the smallest Canadian bill is $5.00.
September 8th, 2010 at 4:03:01 PM
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"And actually, I don't need to produce a winning method to comment on yours" >>> Absolutely 100%, yes you do! You dont get to have it BOTH ways. Ken
September 8th, 2010 at 4:26:01 PM
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Quote: mrjjj"And actually, I don't need to produce a winning method to comment on yours" >>> Absolutely 100%, yes you do! You dont get to have it BOTH ways. Ken
You really don't get the idea of a public forum. Which is odd if you've been posting on one for years around the place. You may consider anyone's comments immaterial and invalid. But I can comment on the facts of the system you present.
I do have a break even formula. let me know how it works for you.
1) Never bet on the first dozen. Too close to the dealer.
2) Avoid the Black numbers.
3) If the number if on the right hand side of the felt, it's bad Feng Shui.
4) Odd red numbers are naturally unlucky, so should not be bet.
5) As are any numbers with 0's in.
6) Don't play prime numbers.
7) Or multiples of seven.
8) And at all costs, don't bet on 16, 32 or 34.
Best of all, this method only works on a double-0 wheel. I rate it B+.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
September 8th, 2010 at 4:32:44 PM
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"You may consider anyone's comments immaterial and invalid" >>> I love comments and never get upset by them. I think its YOU who does not quite get it. I dont post a method to prove anything, not a big deal to me. In terms of your posted methods (this is where you and I are different)....Do I agree with your ways of playing? No BUT thats it. I won't slam it. I appreciate you posting your style of play, thank you sir. If someone does not agree with your style of play, dont play it. Ken
September 8th, 2010 at 4:34:29 PM
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A Murder Method with Teeth
I know some will do this and I'll never hear a word from them, I accept that. Some might even rip the method AND still do it. lol This is straight gunning. I use calibers of .45, 9 mm and .38 but use whatever fits your budget the best. I try and separate fact from opinion. A fact is, in 'X' number of murders, we will get a three murders on one street, all 3 dead. I do have to thank Dexter ahead of time, he helped me a bit.
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Notes: You have no right to rip on my method unless you post your own. Telling me that I shouldn't murder people is not telling me a better method so will be ignored. Telling me that murder is illegal is not telling me a better method so will be ignored. In fact, if you tell me murder is illegal I will start a new thread that compares murder to speeding, as both are illegal, just to varying degrees. If you're going to do anything illegal you may as well go all the way.
I know some will do this and I'll never hear a word from them, I accept that. Some might even rip the method AND still do it. lol This is straight gunning. I use calibers of .45, 9 mm and .38 but use whatever fits your budget the best. I try and separate fact from opinion. A fact is, in 'X' number of murders, we will get a three murders on one street, all 3 dead. I do have to thank Dexter ahead of time, he helped me a bit.
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Notes: You have no right to rip on my method unless you post your own. Telling me that I shouldn't murder people is not telling me a better method so will be ignored. Telling me that murder is illegal is not telling me a better method so will be ignored. In fact, if you tell me murder is illegal I will start a new thread that compares murder to speeding, as both are illegal, just to varying degrees. If you're going to do anything illegal you may as well go all the way.
Solo venimos, solo nos vamos. Y aqui nos juntamos, juntos que estamos.
September 8th, 2010 at 4:37:38 PM
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When all else fails....use humor I guess. Reminds me of a couple other boards. Ken
September 8th, 2010 at 4:39:17 PM
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"When all else fails....use humor I guess. Reminds me of a couple other boards. Ken " >>> Who is using humor? Now do you have a better murder method? Prog
By the way, I have no problem with your method. Do what works for you. Economists say that perceived benefit is just as good as actual benefit (in micro anyways, consumer choice theory to be exact), and I agree with that. The problem I have is with your insistence that someone has to one up your method in order to have the 'right' to reply. As we've proven, we do indeed have that 'right' because we are doing it.
By the way, I have no problem with your method. Do what works for you. Economists say that perceived benefit is just as good as actual benefit (in micro anyways, consumer choice theory to be exact), and I agree with that. The problem I have is with your insistence that someone has to one up your method in order to have the 'right' to reply. As we've proven, we do indeed have that 'right' because we are doing it.
Solo venimos, solo nos vamos. Y aqui nos juntamos, juntos que estamos.
September 8th, 2010 at 4:44:43 PM
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"You wanted my roulette method. Don't play high vig games sorry. If I could find a single zero, I might try throwing a D'Alembert or Alexembert at an EC. It's what I currently do with the PL at craps. Only on my nonrandom toss. Also some holecarding opportunities out there on various games. Also some bac with my friends A & A betting either OLD or straight Banker. So either real low variance or outright positeve value wager" >>> Thanks Herb, NS, DJ, Kyla Shooter, Advantagesnob, spiff, Snowman, Fast Bucks, ivan19061 etc. (lol)! At least I dont HIDE and never will. Even if these are not 'high vig games', you will STILL lose in the long term. Check my thread under: 1.6% vs. 2.2%. Thanks, Ken
September 8th, 2010 at 4:50:37 PM
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Thanks for your post Thoughtcast. Very cool, informative and polite! Have a great day. Ken
September 8th, 2010 at 4:56:20 PM
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Lets watch our wording. A right to reply and slamming someone CAN be two different things, correct? You mean to say, its OKAY (in your opinion) to slam someone elses work but YOU can not produce something better? Thats normal? I see its analogy time. I cant paint for s**t, not an artistic bone in me. So if I go to a gallery and spot a couple paintings that I think SUCK, you feel its ok for me to rip the person who painted those EVEN THOUGH, I cant do any better? Thats cool with you? Ken
September 8th, 2010 at 5:39:41 PM
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Sure, that's what art critics do. I am also fine with people calling songs, movies, poetry, novels or meals crappy even if they are not able to play guitar, direct films, write poetry or fiction, or cook themselves. I mean, I may not be able to cook like Bobby Flay, but if someone handed me a bowl of inedible tripe, am I not permitted to call a spade a spade?
Solo venimos, solo nos vamos. Y aqui nos juntamos, juntos que estamos.
September 8th, 2010 at 6:57:31 PM
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Quote: mrjjj>>> Thanks Herb, NS, DJ, Kyla Shooter, Advantagesnob, spiff, Snowman, Fast Bucks, ivan19061 etc. (lol)! At least I dont HIDE and never will. Even if these are not 'high vig games', you will STILL lose in the long term. Check my thread under: 1.6% vs. 2.2%. Thanks, Ken
Sorry smoothie, I only post on this handle, I don't change my handle on different boards. You will not find me on JP's board, although you do post about your adventures here. No one there questions your math because they don't have enough intelligence to. Occaisonaly I will post on GG, you could look it up, as Casey Stengle would say.
It is possible for an AP to lose in the short term but long term takes a lack of discipline.
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
September 8th, 2010 at 7:17:28 PM
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Quote: thecesspitYou really don't get the idea of a public forum. Which is odd if you've been posting on one for years around the place. You may consider anyone's comments immaterial and invalid. But I can comment on the facts of the system you present.
I do have a break even formula. let me know how it works for you.
1) Never bet on the first dozen. Too close to the dealer.
2) Avoid the Black numbers.
3) If the number if on the right hand side of the felt, it's bad Feng Shui.
4) Odd red numbers are naturally unlucky, so should not be bet.
5) As are any numbers with 0's in.
6) Don't play prime numbers.
7) Or multiples of seven.
8) And at all costs, don't bet on 16, 32 or 34.
Best of all, this method only works on a double-0 wheel. I rate it B+.
I have been playing this method for over a decade and have never lost with it. B+ isn't high enough.
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
September 11th, 2010 at 11:44:28 AM
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"It is possible for an AP to lose in the short term but long term takes a lack of discipline" >>> Wrong answer. YES, long term, still a loser. Everyone knows that AP (cough) is a FORM of gamblers fallacy. Also, yes you are part of the 'crew'. I just said it to a good friend of mine on the boards. There is NO POINT trying to HIDE behind new user names. The POSTINGS are just too damn similar.
Take me for example....you think if I started posting here under the name 'gfjdghrvhrdsvl', no one would know its me? lol I would be talking about methods, progressions, AP sucks etc. its kind of obvious, no? Its like Herb being Snowman.....what is the point? lol There are a couple NEW members here. When did they start posting? The day after I started....they went straight to MY thread/post and slammed it. Why not just post under a user name we all know.....its pretty damn obvious who THESE 'new' guys are. Ken
Take me for example....you think if I started posting here under the name 'gfjdghrvhrdsvl', no one would know its me? lol I would be talking about methods, progressions, AP sucks etc. its kind of obvious, no? Its like Herb being Snowman.....what is the point? lol There are a couple NEW members here. When did they start posting? The day after I started....they went straight to MY thread/post and slammed it. Why not just post under a user name we all know.....its pretty damn obvious who THESE 'new' guys are. Ken
September 11th, 2010 at 12:42:07 PM
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Just for the record,
I started posting back in April. That's roughly four months before you arrived.
I started posting back in April. That's roughly four months before you arrived.
September 11th, 2010 at 12:52:32 PM
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It has nothing to do with you. I can tell the difference between someone slamming me (from other boards) and someone who is genuine in terms of not agreeing with me. Ken
September 11th, 2010 at 1:02:59 PM
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Mr. J,
Why are you so jealous of AP players? It seems as though you are on a mission to bash the intelligent posters. You've posted over 100 times since joining just a week ago, and you will sometimes post after your own post three and four times in a row.
I have to ask, are you John Patrick?
Why are you so jealous of AP players? It seems as though you are on a mission to bash the intelligent posters. You've posted over 100 times since joining just a week ago, and you will sometimes post after your own post three and four times in a row.
I have to ask, are you John Patrick?
September 11th, 2010 at 1:06:12 PM
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Ken- I am one of the relatively new posters- and I am no one but myself. The reason many of the posters seem similar is that there are those of us that are versed in basic statistics/ probabilities/ math. We all understand that over the long run there is no system that can beat roulette. Thus I cannot tell you about how I play roulette because I do not. I play mostly pai gow poker. I would guess that over the long run I must lose, too. With dealer errors, poor house ways, and occassional weak players when I am banker, I perceive that I may have an advantage, but I probably do not. I know if I include the comps I am ahead of what I would be if I payed rack rates at casinos. My very low play has earned me free rooms at what others on this site call the evil empire. So, basically, I gamble for fun, for the rare time my queen high pai gow beats the dealers jack high, for the time i see a player with a royal and a pair, for the conversation with new people, for the drinks when I don't have to drive later. But I will not try to purport a system to beat an unbeatable game. I am not saying you should not play your system or any of the other systems you may use. I would guess you enjoy devising them, testing them, and playing them. The times you come out ahead you must feel very good. But all pretty much everyone here has said, which is irrefutable, is that no roulette system (unless you include comps) can work in the long run. As much vitriol as has been spilled between you and mkl, I would bet that if the two of you met over a beer there would be less animosity and more friendly discussion.
September 11th, 2010 at 1:06:14 PM
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@Keyser >> lol, Very obvious, you were at VLS posting....stopped.....came here to post.....back to VLS. I'll answer your question ONLY IF you answer mine, deal? The benefits of different user names is.......?
September 11th, 2010 at 1:10:06 PM
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"I would guess that over the long run I must lose, too." >>> Thank you. To make sure I understand you (I dont want to misquote) are you saying that WITH your comps included, you would (or could) be ahead, even after 30 years of play? Hmmm, another thread question I can put together. Ken
September 11th, 2010 at 1:15:30 PM
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....and you ADDED more to your last post, again. Classic Herb/Snowman....so obvious. You can fool a couple people bro, I'll have to post about this. lol Ken
September 11th, 2010 at 1:20:52 PM
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Since you asked... as an example- I play $25 pai gow- will bring maybe $500- In October I am getting 3 free nights at Rio- a friend who has no standing will get 3 nights at $35 per night under my name. I usually end up getting around 15 - 20 dollars per day in comps. I have certainly won many times (last trip to New Orleans Harrahs) and it is rare that I lose more than the cost of my hotel stay. I am sure it must have happenned, but I do not remember the last time I lost as much as 500 on a trip. So, then, yes.
September 11th, 2010 at 1:29:28 PM
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But over a 30 year period, would you be ahead with comps included? Ken
September 11th, 2010 at 3:32:56 PM
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If you are talking about the previous 30 years, the answer is yes. If you are talking about the next 30 years, the answer would likely be no. I assume at some point the casinos will figure out how little I bet and decrease the room affers. I could be wrong, though. With only one trip to a harrahs property in the last 20 months and maybe 8 hours of 25$ pai gow play they have increased the number of nights I can stay and have now also included Caesars, which used to cost extra, now free, too. Do you live in Vegas, Ken?
September 11th, 2010 at 3:54:46 PM
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How did that challenge go with Herb on VLS LOL?
September 11th, 2010 at 3:55:20 PM
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No, Wisconsin.
September 11th, 2010 at 3:57:41 PM
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"How did that challenge go with Herb on VLS LOL?" >>> lol, YEP! Herb or one of his other 9 fake user names. The guy won't quit, I'll give him that. If it takes BS to get his point across, well, I guess so. ROFL Ken
October 25th, 2010 at 8:18:28 PM
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Just saying hello guys! I still use this method, it does work well. Thanks, Ken
October 26th, 2010 at 2:45:36 AM
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sure as long as you dont mind losing 5.26% of every dollar you put on the table over the long run, im sure it works very well.
December 13th, 2010 at 7:29:22 PM
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Hi Ken,
For 'Multiple bets' = Do you mean if there are 3 sets of numbers i.e 22,23 and 8,9 and 28,29 within the last *12* numbers hit , you will bet $15 on 24, $15 on 7 and $10 on 30 ?
What is semi-streets ?
Thanks.
For 'Multiple bets' = Do you mean if there are 3 sets of numbers i.e 22,23 and 8,9 and 28,29 within the last *12* numbers hit , you will bet $15 on 24, $15 on 7 and $10 on 30 ?
What is semi-streets ?
Thanks.
December 15th, 2010 at 8:58:05 PM
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Quote: michael99000sure as long as you dont mind losing 5.26% of every dollar you put on the table over the long run, im sure it works very well.
Just curious, whats your method of choice for roulette?
Ken
December 15th, 2010 at 9:06:58 PM
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I stated the term, 'semi-cold streets' within the 12 recorded spins. That means, a street with no hits OR only one hit, within the 12.
In your example posted, we have 3 numbers to bet on. In THIS CASE, $10 on 24, 7 and 30.
Ken
In your example posted, we have 3 numbers to bet on. In THIS CASE, $10 on 24, 7 and 30.
Ken
January 1st, 2011 at 4:09:02 AM
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I read this whole thread and noticed that nope27's post back on page 7 was not noticed by anyone. There, he stated:
"I ran 10,000 sims of the "street last 12 spins" C+ system in Roulette Xtreme software and showed a 37.43% win rate of making a $1000 win goal. A 62.57% bust rate of $3K start bankroll. The longest win streak was 32 sessions. The second longest was 18 and the median was only 3."
So doesn't this settle the matter?
mrjjj, how many times in a row would you estimate this has worked for you? If you've been doing this for 3.5 years an average of 1-2 times per week, then i would estimate 250 outings at $1K each = $250K. If you haven't dropped very many 3K bankrolls during this time, i'd say there is a large discrepancy between nope27's simulation and your experiences in the casino.
"I ran 10,000 sims of the "street last 12 spins" C+ system in Roulette Xtreme software and showed a 37.43% win rate of making a $1000 win goal. A 62.57% bust rate of $3K start bankroll. The longest win streak was 32 sessions. The second longest was 18 and the median was only 3."
So doesn't this settle the matter?
mrjjj, how many times in a row would you estimate this has worked for you? If you've been doing this for 3.5 years an average of 1-2 times per week, then i would estimate 250 outings at $1K each = $250K. If you haven't dropped very many 3K bankrolls during this time, i'd say there is a large discrepancy between nope27's simulation and your experiences in the casino.
