Still on roll, This is how i roll!
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Quote: jamesbond007I posted this a long time ago and I am still on roll, the key to winning is to have a large bank roll and win a small amount, My method take 10k into a casino and win 1k. I am 26 and 0 using this method. I know you negative people will say it only a matter of time before I go broke, but by that time it won't matter because I have won more than my initial bankroll. Examples, using math when playing video poker , I had 4 cards to royal flush over 200 times and still to this day never hit one when I was so close to a royal flush, but for some reason I hit the royal flush holding 1 card and 2 cards and 3 cards but for some odd reason 4 to royal I cannot catch a break, odds say 1/47 and I am 0/200, this is what statistics do to you saying I am due, how does one know when one enters in the long run, the long runs is consider infinity and it is impossible to count to infinity.
Awesome man. So, you have a $36k BR? Whats the secret to winning 10% of your BR, daily?
Quote: MaxSwelleAwesome man. So, you have a $36k BR? Whats the secret to winning 10% of your BR, daily?
My bankroll is not 36K I said I won 26 times of course I spent money in the casino with those wins, video poker and high stakes slots going for the big win. Many times I came home even due to my slots losses but on the table games, yes just pick up 1k and walk from the table games for that day.
Congrats on the good luck you've been having.
I don't get the point of the poll....
Quote: jamesbond007My bankroll is not 36K I said I won 26 times of course I spent money in the casino with those wins, video poker and high stakes slots going for the big win. Many times I came home even due to my slots losses but on the table games, yes just pick up 1k and walk from the table games for that day.
What is your BR?
same with meQuote: jamesbond007Examples, using math when playing video poker , I had 4 cards to royal flush over 200 times and still to this day never hit one when I was so close to a royal flush,
my 9 Royals to date have all been from holding 3 or 2 or 0 to the Royal
I figured the games were rigged as they were back in the 1980s when American Coin did it and the NGC let them get away with it for over 3 years, if I remember the story details,
so we all know it is still done today but done in a more clever way, in my opinion
I say, still not dueQuote: jamesbond007odds say 1/47 and I am 0/200, this is what statistics do to you saying I am due,
well, what happens if you would have hit all 200 of them?
really,
out of the 201 possible results you (at 0 Royals) are at the 10th highest possible outcome.
Not the 1st or 2nd or even the 100th
just number 10
no math shown as I pulled the numbers out of thin air
that has to make you feel much better not being so special that is
number 10 (a 10) and not 007
keep on winning
Sally
Quote: MaxSwelleWhat is your BR?
My bankroll is always 10k, that is what I always bring not matter what I win. I use any winnings for other expenses, when I lose that 10k then I will have to re-think my plan, but it has not come to that as of right now, just living the moment and see how long it will take to lose my 10k, maybe I can 200-0 before I lose my 10k, we shall see.
Quote: jamesbond007My bankroll is always 10k, that is what I always bring not matter what I win. I use any winnings for other expenses, when I lose that 10k then I will have to re-think my plan, but it has not come to that as of right now, just living the moment and see how long it will take to lose my 10k, maybe I can 200-0 before I lose my 10k, we shall see.
What are your career gambling losses?
Quote: mustangsallysame with me
my 9 Royals to date have all been from holding 3 or 2 or 0 to the Royal
I figured the games were rigged as they were back in the 1980s when American Coin did it and the NGC let them get away with it for over 3 years, if I remember the story details,
so we all know it is still done today but done in a more clever way, in my opinion
I say, still not due
well, what happens if you would have hit all 200 of them?
really,
out of the 201 possible results you (at 0 Royals) are at the 10th highest possible outcome.
Not the 1st or 2nd or even the 100th
just number 10
no math shown as I pulled the numbers out of thin air
that has to make you feel much better not being so special that is
number 10 (a 10) and not 007
keep on winning
Sally
edited? Your first draft was funny enough.
Quote: MaxSwelleWhat are your career gambling losses?
My name is James Bond, have you ever see me lose!
Quote: jamesbond007My name is James Bond, have you ever see me lose!
Yeah, actually I've seen you lose a few friends, other agents, several cars, sultry women and a wife. And now, your integrity. About a year ago you claimed to have suffered career loses of $500k. This revelation makes you sir, a liar.
Quote: MaxSwelleYeah, actually I've seen you lose a few friends, other agents, several cars, sultry women and a wife. And now, your integrity. About a year ago you claimed to have suffered career loses of $500k. This revelation makes you sir, a liar.
LOL Sometimes lying makes people feel GOOD! If your luck is that good Mr Bond. Congrats and keep it rolling.
Quote: jamesbond007My name is James Bond, have you ever see me lose!
Quote: jamesbond007Hi everyone this is my first post. I been gambling since I was 18 and most of the times I lost all my money. I say in my life time I have lost almost $500,000 in all.
Quote: MaxSwelleAwesome man. So, you have a $36k BR? Whats the secret to winning 10% of your BR, daily?
Go to the court house and change your name to James Bond.
Quote: nickolay411LOL Sometimes lying makes people feel GOOD! If your luck is that good Mr Bond. Congrats and keep it rolling.
Every gambler has their losses, but I am not talking about the past , I am talking about the present right now, and the future and what tomorrow will bring.
Quote: nickolay411LOL Sometimes lying makes people feel GOOD! If your luck is that good Mr Bond. Congrats and keep it rolling.
Saying I feel GOOD makes me a liar. Lol
Where you have been Nick?
Quote: jamesbond007Every gambler has their losses, but I am not talking about the past , I am talking about the present right now, and the future and what tomorrow will bring.
Yeah, I'm done with you. But, continued fortunes to you if your being honst.
Quote: MaxSwelleSaying I feel GOOD makes me a liar. Lol
Where you have been Nick?
Prepping for my trip to Macau. Duh. Dem casino's ain't no match for this nickoree didoree deee do.
Also running WINcraps sims and dreaming!
I'm on my wayQuote: jamesbond007Go to the court house and change your name to James Bond.
Quote: nickolay411Prepping for my trip to Macau. Duh. Dem casino's ain't no match for this nickoree didoree deee do.
Also running WINcraps sims and dreaming!
Man, don't shorten the word to "prepping", it makes one think of doomsday. Doom and Macau shouldn't share a single thought. But seriously, that's exciting news dude. I'll ask about your toss later, so as not to chap hides.
Quote: MaxSwelleMan, don't shorten the word to "prepping", it makes one think of doomsday. Doom and Macau shouldn't share a single thought. But seriously, that's exciting news dude. I'll ask about your toss later, so as not to chap hides.
Haha. Yea you're right, I can't get doomsday out of my head now. Doomsday for the Casinos!
There you have it. You are running good on tables and bad on slots. Somewhere in the world Auric Goldfinger is doing the opposite. He thinks he has a vp/slot system.Quote: jamesbond007
So you have this system that makes you 1k on tables, yet you blow most of it on slots. AP's and even ploppys call that, a degenerate gambler.
Who in their right mind, with a system that made 1k each time, wouldn't do it everyday?
Quote: jamesbond007Given that there can be only 2 possible outcomes, either I win or lose everything, and I would be a heavy math favorite that I reach my goal.
Yes of course. If you are willing to lose 10K vs a win goal of 1k, you are a favorite for that short term window, but you will still lose in the long run. Just the same as the often dissected Martingale will have you a favorite to win through one cycle. But when the losing cycle hits, you will wipe out all those small wins plus some.
With no mention of playing with an advantage, you seem to just be attempting to re-write the facts that "no betting system can over come a negative EV game". All you are doing, is redistributing the wins and losses in a way where you will have many small wins, and fewer large losses. But the end long-term result will still be the same. It is a losing proposition.
Quote: AxelWolfThere you have it. You are running good on tables and bad on slots. Somewhere in the world Auric Goldfinger is doing the opposite. He thinks he has a vp/slot system.
So you have this system that makes you 1k on tables, yet you blow most of it on slots. AP's and even ploppys call that, a degenerate gambler.
Who in their right mind, with a system that made 1k each time, wouldn't do it everyday?
This quote is so mindless, I cannot comment on it. If you cannot say anything with any thought keep it to yourself.
Quote: kewljYes of course. If you are willing to lose 10K vs a win goal of 1k, you are a favorite for that short term window, but you will still lose in the long run. Just the same as the often dissected Martingale will have you a favorite to win through one cycle. But when the losing cycle hits, you will wipe out all those small wins plus some.
With no mention of playing with an advantage, you seem to just be attempting to re-write the facts that "no betting system can over come a negative EV game". All you are doing, is redistributing the wins and losses in a way where you will have many small wins, and fewer large losses. But the end long-term result will still be the same. It is a losing proposition.
Yes in long run I will lose, but who knows when that will happen, like I said I have gotten over 200 four to royal flush dealt and yet to hit one, last week on 10 play, was dealt 4 to a royal and not one hit, that makes it over 210 times, am I due, odds say 1/47, I figure by the time I get my Royal Flush the casino will get my 10k bankroll. I figure if I keep missing my 4 to a royal , then the casino will keep missing my 10k bankroll.
I did hit a royal flush holding 1 card and that 178,000 to one, but for whatever reason every time I get 4 to royal it a billion to one, explain that. Math is very funny, on what should happen and what actual happens, I figure I should have lost my 10k bankroll long time ago, but it still did not happen yet, may be I can go 210 like my 4 to royal before I lose my 10k bankroll.
There you have it. You are running good on tables and bad on slots. Somewhere in the world Auric Goldfinger is doing the opposite. He thinks he has a vp/slot system.
So you have this system that makes you 1k on tables, yet you blow most of it on slots. AP's and even ploppys call that, a degenerate gambler.
Who in their right mind, with a system that made 1k each time, wouldn't do it everyday?
Quote: jamesbond007This quote is so mindless, I cannot comment on it. If you cannot say anything with any thought keep it to yourself.
I don't think it's mindless at all. If you can consistently make 1K/day playing tables, why on earth are you consistently going and spending it on slots? Go get that 1k a day and the hell with the slots. The rest was a joke reference to your name.
Don't shoot the messenger. It's a good question.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaKryi3605gQuote: jamesbond007This quote is so mindless, I cannot comment on it. If you cannot say anything with any thought keep it to yourself.
10/11 = about 91% against no edgeQuote: kewljYes of course. If you are willing to lose 10K vs a win goal of 1k, you are a favorite for that short term window,
say 90% to win one time (just an examples)
one would need to win 10 times in a row to double the 10k and a loss will not take more than the 10k
so abouts 0.9^10 = 0.3486784401
abouts a 1 in 3 chance of success.
that is way easy for about 1 in 3 that try the OP system.
2 out of 3 are not happy with OP system of play they are off to do something else after a bankroll bust
I think OP could increase his win rate of doubling a 10k bank by betting (BBB) all $10k on 00Roulette - RED at 18/38 or
47.368421052631578947368421052632% win probability
wait, no on BLACK
waits,
maybe RED is a winner
no no no
in my opinion, all humans need to drop that long run stuff, reallyQuote: kewljbut you will still lose in the long run.
long run = forever
how about your expectation is to lose the longer you keep playing
maybe that is way too simple
yep yep yap yapQuote: kewljJust the same as the often dissected Martingale will have you a favorite to win through one cycle.
another error you say.Quote: kewljBut when the losing cycle hits, you will wipe out all those small wins plus some.
if you are risking 10k how is it possible to lose more than 10k in a session loss?
I do not get it
maybe you can expand your thinking to a 4th dimension please
long run = a joke
that started the whole world laughing
Betting Systems forum rules
Sally
Quote: mustangsally
in my opinion, all humans need to drop that long run stuff, really
long run = forever
long run = a joke
Hogwash! In blackjack there is a very definable 'long term'. It relates to N0.
As for the rest of your post, it appears, you are basically trying to twist words and looking for 'technicality' disputes, rather than to reasonably discuss what the OP is doing in an effort to maybe help him not lose all his money. That's not my game.
hahahaQuote: kewljHogwash! In blackjack there is a very definable 'long term'. It relates to N0.
another joke!
Blackjack = Hogwash
too bad for you
long run = forever
Thanks for that opinion. I do not at all care for your game. my opinion hereQuote: kewljAs for the rest of your post, it appears, you are basically trying to twist words and looking for 'technicality' disputes, rather than to reasonably discuss what the OP is doing in an effort to maybe help him not lose all his money. That's not my game.
Hey man, leave me alone says David Bowie (not his real last name, Jones is another David Jones!)
I showed some math on possible chances of OP being successful in a Betting Systems forum
take your BJ Hogwash to a BJ forum where some might care and where it obviously belongs
this is a Betting Systems forum
and it rules here
OP rocks and kewlj does not
in my opinion
Sally
Quote: mustangsally
this is a Betting Systems forum
and it rules here
OP rocks and kewlj does not
in my opinion
Sally
LMAO. Even I realise that Kewjl knows what he's talking about and yet Sally takes him to task. Ho hum. As Sally rightly points out, this is the betting systems forum where the fools, and lucky fools who promote their systems do indeed have the rules on their side. http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/518524-never-argue-with-a-fool-onlookers-may-not-be-able
I wishQuote: OnceDearLMAO.
It takes a fool to know a foolQuote: OnceDearEven I realise that Kewjl knows what he's talking about and yet Sally takes him to task. Ho hum.
As Sally rightly points out, this is the betting systems forum where the fools, and lucky fools <snip> <snip>
long run = forever
betting systems add FUN to gambling
try making 2,000 Baccarat Banker bets in a row, oh, flat betting (no sitting ONE hand out)
and see and feel how much fun it is
now throw your betting selection method in a blender, hit run
and see how much more fun it is
fun
or
more fun
there is no question
Sally
sure, save OP money, right toe!
Quote: OnceDearLMAO. Even I realise that Kewjl knows what he's talking about and yet Sally takes him to task. Ho hum. As Sally rightly points out, this is the betting systems forum where the fools, and lucky fools who promote their systems do indeed have the rules on their side.
Well, to be honest, I don't often look at the forum titles. I usually just respond to threads in the recent thread section as if they are legitimate discussions. I guess I will have to pay more attention to the sub forums and choose my participation more closely, to avoid participating in the non-sense discussions.
Imagine if you could increase your run rate from $365,000 to $3,650,000!
But on a serious note, I think you should consider seeing someone about your problem, unless you have enough fun to last you through the impossible "long run" time when you have 3 losing sessions out of 10 and lose your winnings. I can sympathize with the thought of being up on a trip and saying, "why not chase a progressive jackpot", but if you are taking your not-so-certain-but-you-think-certain winnings and blowing them as well, I would hope you realize how much utility you need to be deriving from the experience to justify it.
And if you are cool with losing 500k or 2 mil or who cares how much, because you enjoy spending your money in a casino, then by all means, have a blast!
And guess what, it's not "I'm not in the long run so EV doesn't effect me". Maybe that's what you think, though, sally -- I don't think anyone would be surprised if that were the case, judging by your posts.
After 10,000 rounds played, you are more likely to be a loser, than say, 1,000 rounds played. I don't think Sally agrees, though, since " long run = hogwash" comment. If you agree, then explain your long run is hogwash comment. If you disagree, well.....I guess my opinion of you won't change.
Quote: mustangsallyI wish
It takes a fool to know a fool
long run = forever
betting systems add FUN to gambling
Ok. I admit it. I didn't literally laugh my arse off, fancy wishing such an affliction on me :)
I don't know kewjl, but he knows his stuff. He may or may not enjoy his game as much as Sally or the OP, but his longevity in the game will be more likely to be dictated by his choosing rather than his bankruptsy.
I do agree that betting systems add fun to gambling. They add fun, they add danger. I usually gamble for fun within my modest 'fun' budget. I even admit to martingdaling my way from £495 to £500 when I've found myself in that position: A pointless exercise because neither the £5 or £495 would change my life.
But I really take Sally to task on the long run equating to forever. If one is risking say 10,000 every day with a 90% of winning 1,000 then think of the possible scenarios. After 10 days one would have between 0 and 20,000. If less than 10,000 then one might top up from other sources, or maybe quit gambling as a lifetime loser. If greater than 10,000 one might start risking more per day. Rinse- repeat. Whatever the choice, and even without regard to house edge, one would count in days or tens of days the lifetime of one's original bankroll. In the above example after 22 days, to my reckoning, before there's a 90% chance of hitting that loss.
So, Sally, call us what you will, but don't discount the risk of ruin without considering the cost of ruin. Some who play for fun soon end up gambling more than they can afford in the belief that ruination won't strike in their lifetime.
And I don't understand the comment about the right toe. <edit> Groan, it came to me as I slept. I'd wrongly assumed that this forum operated in English. Now I figure 'right toe'='righto'. I still cannot figure the meaning in that context but maybe that will come to me</edit.> :)
you do not agree thatQuote: OnceDearBut I really take Sally to task on the long run equating to forever.
the long run = forever
take it up with this guy then
The Wizard looks to be more specific (and that is good)
"This is one of the most frequent questions I get.
You truly arrive at the long run after an infinite number of hands.
<snip> <snip>
, but you will never fully arrive there.<snip>."
very recent from her(es)
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/questions-and-answers/gambling/18140-what-is-the-long-run/#post357700
Sally
I threw some math on top of the betting system salad and they all
got mad.
too bad
and this crazy carzy code that I completed keeps following me around
<snip> <snip>
A = matrix(0,m+2,m+2,dimnames = list(c(1:(m+1),0),c(1:(m+1),0)))
A[m+2,m+2] = 1
A[m+1,m+1] = 1
A[1,m+2]=q
A[m,m+1]=p
A[1:(m-1),2:m] = diag(p,m-1,m-1)
#A
S <- A[1:m,1:m]
diag(S[-1,])<- q
#S
T <- A[1:m,(m+1):(m+2)]
#T
I <- diag(m)
#I
Q <-solve(I-S) # Gives Matrix Q
#Q
#Q %*% vQ # gives Matrix Mu
Q %*% T # gives Matrix SteadyState
Ahigh, finish your simulation,
my code calculates!!
Quote: AxelWolfThere you have it. You are running good on tables and bad on slots. Somewhere in the world Auric Goldfinger is doing the opposite. He thinks he has a vp/slot system.
So you have this system that makes you 1k on tables, yet you blow most of it on slots. AP's and even ploppys call that, a degenerate gambler.
Who in their right mind, with a system that made 1k each time, wouldn't do it everyday?
You can't do it everyday, this is why I don't quit my day job, and who ever said this will always work, I only said I gotten away with 26 times, and if I go gamble on slots it for entertainment only, I think you reading about gambling systems makes you a degenerate gambler otherwise you would not be reading this.
Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: AxelWolf
There you have it. You are running good on tables and bad on slots. Somewhere in the world Auric Goldfinger is doing the opposite. He thinks he has a vp/slot system.
So you have this system that makes you 1k on tables, yet you blow most of it on slots. AP's and even ploppys call that, a degenerate gambler.
Who in their right mind, with a system that made 1k each time, wouldn't do it everyday?
I don't think it's mindless at all. If you can consistently make 1K/day playing tables, why on earth are you consistently going and spending it on slots? Go get that 1k a day and the hell with the slots. The rest was a joke reference to your name.
Don't shoot the messenger. It's a good question.
I admitted I will lose at some point, I don't do everyday, it a crap shoot, all I was saying I got away with 26 times, It not guarantee and I don't live in a casino and I only visit casino only once a month at most. I don't live in Vegas so I can go to a casino everyday, the nearest casino about 3 and half hours and I can only go once a month if that. If you think I was stating this will always work, you need to re read my post. All I said in the long run they will get my bankroll, like one day I will get that 4 to royal flush but who to say when that day will come, if I can beat odds at 178,000 to one, and I only go to the casino 12 times a year they may never get my bankroll not in my life time.
I never need to worry about the long run, I normally only play situations where I have a significant chance to be ahead in the short run. If i play a more long term type of situations, I play with caution and within my comfort zone.
Playing slots for entertainment is fine. However, you seem to have indicated, it has cost you a sh*it ton of your 1k a day winnings. That's not very entertaining in my book.
jamesbond007"I think you reading about gambling systems makes you a degenerate gambler otherwise you would not be reading this."
If this is true then just about every other person on gaming forums are degenerate gamblers, so it would be true of most. Since you actually start and post in many threads concerning this crap, I would have to think this is 007 true for you.
A few notable and real people will tell you I'm the opposite of a gambling degenerate.
You only have your keyboard and device as a witness to anything you claim. One only need to read some of your posts to get a good picture of your credibility.
