If you don't think this works then YOU are mathematically challenged
Quote: RSX2SiI have been to the casino 8 times since using this strategy, I have never lost.
Then why are you bragging on the internet instead of making big money?
Quote: RSX2SiI use this progressive betting strategy for blackjack. If you start off at the minimum bet, let's say its $10, and you lose then you at least double your bet every time you lose and return to the minimum once getting a win. I do 10, 25, 50, 100, 200, 400. Now you don't win a lot fast but if you double your bet every time you lose, you are essentially betting on the fact that you have to win eventually. As long as you continue to have the money to double your bet every time you lose, then when you win you win it all back plus some, and the odds of you losing more than 5 or 6 times in a row is pretty slim. I have been to the casino 8 times since using this strategy, I have never lost.
This is brilliant! Have you thought of a name for your unique system?
How did you come up with something so original? Did inspiration strike you at the table, or did you slave away at home calculating it in much the same vein as Einstein and relativity?
Anyway, what you should really do is write a book about this system. I would pay to read its details, and I suspect many others here would, as well.
Plus some super extra wins when that ugly Blackjack is dealt to you.Quote: RSX2SiAs long as you continue to have the money to double your bet every time you lose, then when you win you win it all back plus some,
what happens when you do NOT have the money to double your bet every time you lose?
do you just stop and start your progression over?
It will sooner or later happen you know.
maybe your winnings up to that point will be more than what you lose.
you did not mention how you play, where you sit and that kind of stuff.
I used to be pretty and slimQuote: RSX2Siand the odds of you losing more than 5 or 6 times in a row is pretty slim.
just pretty now. I blame not being slim on getting old.
How slim are these odds that you talk about?
size 2?
I mean about on average every 103 hands played give or take some to lose 6 ins a row. Is that too fat?
super!Quote: RSX2SiI have been to the casino 8 times since using this strategy, I have never lost.
the chances of you never losing a session until you die are 1 in something big
better to have 1 chance than none
maybe I try your system if you tell more on how you actually play BJ. there must be more to it that just betting more after a loss
one would think or not think
have fun!
Sally
Quote: djatcWhat happens if you get to the table max as you double over and over?
Then he switches to the High Roller tables...then another trip to the ATM...he doesn't have to pay the mortgage this month.
Well I have my son tonight, I've already been 3 times this week lol
Quote: sodawaterThis is brilliant! Have you thought of a name for your unique system?
How did you come up with something so original? Did inspiration strike you at the table, or did you slave away at home calculating it in much the same vein as Einstein and relativity?
Anyway, what you should really do is write a book about this system. I would pay to read its details, and I suspect many others here would, as well.
I have not thought of name yet but I guess I should start thinking about it. And I thought of it after the first time I went to the casino (I lost $100), after that I just needed to get enough money together that I was willing to lose should it not work, but the first night was my best night and it has kept me going back since. Those 8 times are all within about a month, the casino is like 20 minutes from my house.
Quote: RSX2SiI use this progressive betting strategy for blackjack. If you start off at the minimum bet, let's say its $10, and you lose then you at least double your bet every time you lose and return to the minimum once getting a win. I do 10, 25, 50, 100, 200, 400. Now you don't win a lot fast but if you double your bet every time you lose, you are essentially betting on the fact that you have to win eventually. As long as you continue to have the money to double your bet every time you lose, then when you win you win it all back plus some, and the odds of you losing more than 5 or 6 times in a row is pretty slim. I have been to the casino 8 times since using this strategy, I have never lost.
This post is relevant to my interests but...DAMN - why are you not selling this system…? You could retire selling this rather than giving it away on the internet!!!
Quote: RSX2SiWhere I play the minimum is $10 and the max is $3000, if you lose that many times in row then you shouldn't do anything in life that involves luck at all lol
So, you go to the casino with $6000 in your pocket, hoping to go home with $6010? It is true that you will leave with $6010 a lot more often than $0...
Quote: RSX2SiWhere I play the minimum is $10 and the max is $3000, if you lose that many times in row then you shouldn't do anything in life that involves luck at all lol
$10/$20/$40/$80/$160/$320/$640/$1080/$2160 that's only 9 losses. Yeah anyone that unlucky should run away. Not like 9 losses have ever happened in a row ever in any casino game.
I bet more than half of the people on this site thought a marty was a good or new idea at one point in their life. You may have been 12 at the time but you still thought of it.
Quote: GWAEYou may have been 12 at the time but you still thought of it.
Nope.
Quote: GWAEcome on guys play nice, unless of course this is a super troll.
Also, look at the title of the thread. This guy deserves a harder time than he is getting.
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceAlso, look at the title of the thread. This guy deserves a harder time than he is getting.
I stand corrected... Carry on
9 losses in a row? That can't ever happen except maybe every 512 hands and that's like equal to never!Quote: djatc$10/$20/$40/$80/$160/$320/$640/$1080/$2160 that's only 9 losses. Yeah anyone that unlucky should run away. Not like 9 losses have ever happened in a row ever in any casino game.
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceNope.
:-( Ok maybe it is just me then. I can remember when I thought of it and thought I was a "genious". Now maybe this is because I grew up in a state that didn't have gambling or maybe it is because I am not too bright.
Quote: GWAE:-( Ok maybe it is just me then. I can remember when I thought of it and thought I was a "genious". Now maybe this is because I grew up in a state that didn't have gambling or maybe it is because I am not too bright.
Actually my problem is probably that I'm not creative enough. I never thought of it and the first time that someone told me about it I already knew why it wouldn't work.
Quote: mustangsallyPlus some super extra wins when that ugly Blackjack is dealt to you.
what happens when you do NOT have the money to double your bet every time you lose?
do you just stop and start your progression over?
It will sooner or later happen you know.
maybe your winnings up to that point will be more than what you lose.
you did not mention how you play, where you sit and that kind of stuff.
I used to be pretty and slim
just pretty now. I blame not being slim on getting old.
How slim are these odds that you talk about?
size 2?
I mean about on average every 103 hands played give or take some to lose 6 ins a row. Is that too fat?
super!
the chances of you never losing a session until you die are 1 in something big
better to have 1 chance than none
maybe I try your system if you tell more on how you actually play BJ. there must be more to it that just betting more after a loss
one would think or not think
have fun!
Sally
The other night I was sitting last seat (I like at least 2 people sitting before me) I started with $400 in chips, I bet 10, 25, 60 bj, 10, 25, 60, 125bj. I don't remember what happened after that but very quickly I was at $800, I said I would walk at $1000. Shortly thereafter I hit a losing streak 10, 25, 50, 100, 200. I counted my chips at this point and I was at $470, rather than continuing with the system and betting $400, I decided since I was still up to just restart back at minimum. I got back to $800 and walked. So yes if you did not have enough to double then you would restart. I also usually restart upon change of dealer or new shoe.
How I play:
I prefer to sit last so that I feel like i have some control over what card the dealer gets
I avoid busting at all costs (stay on 12-16 often and make the dealer beat me)
I always factor every hit based on how many high/low cards are on the table
If more than one low card has already come out in a row then I will not hit above 11
I also may raise my bet if quite a few hands have gone by without being dealt 18+ regardless if I just won with something like a 12
As far as odds go, single hand BJ odds are like 43% chance to win, 49% to lose, and 8% to tie. So lets round off the chance of loss to 50% to make it easy, although your odds in each individual are 50% to lose (similar to flipping a coin) then the odds of losing 2 in a row is only 25%, 3 in a row 12.5%, 4 in a row 6.25%, 5 in a row 3.125%, 6 in a row 1.56%. So I would say that it's safe to say around a 2% chance to lose 5 or 6 hands in a row, and that your original guess of close to 100 hands to see a 5-6 losing streak is about correct.
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceAlso, look at the title of the thread. This guy deserves a harder time than he is getting.
Title was due registration email warning people of posting in this section
Quote: RSX2Si
How I play:
I prefer to sit last so that I feel like i have some control over what card the dealer gets
OMG - I could never play the last seat - I do not want the responsibility of controlling the dealer's card!!! You go my man!
Quote: RSX2SiI prefer to sit last so that I feel like i have some control over what card the dealer gets
I'm sure that that feeling of control is very reassuring.
Quote:I avoid busting at all costs (stay on 12-16 often and make the dealer beat me)
I always factor every hit based on how many high/low cards are on the table
If more than one low card has already come out in a row then I will not hit above 11
Oh man, the casino must love you.
Quote:I also may raise my bet if quite a few hands have gone by without being dealt 18+ regardless if I just won with something like a 12
In fairness, it's hard to get to 18 when you refuse to hit.
Quick question: Say you got 18 every single hand. How do you like your chances?
Quote:As far as odds go, single hand BJ odds are like 43% chance to win, 49% to lose, and 8% to tie.
That assumes that you play according to basic strategy. When you play as badly as you do, your chances of winning are way, way lower.
Quote:So lets round off the chance of loss to 50% to make it easy, although your odds in each individual are 50% to lose (similar to flipping a coin) then the odds of losing 2 in a row is only 25%, 3 in a row 12.5%, 4 in a row 6.25%, 5 in a row 3.125%, 6 in a row 1.56%. So I would say that it's safe to say around a 2% chance to lose 5 or 6 hands in a row, and that your original guess of close to 100 hands to see a 5-6 losing streak is about correct.
What about cases where you lose, then tie, then lose again? That is not counted in your 25% chances of losing 2 in a row.
Quote: djatc$10/$20/$40/$80/$160/$320/$640/$1080/$2160 that's only 9 losses. Yeah anyone that unlucky should run away. Not like 9 losses have ever happened in a row ever in any casino game.
There comes a time that you may need to decide not to double and to restart at the bottom. Traditionally though if your odds at each hand are close to 50/50 then typically your going to only lose 1-3 times before winning. Hopefully it stays that way for a while so that when the losing streak comes and it will, then you can either handle it or restart the system before losing big money.
Quote: RSX2SiThere comes a time that you may need to decide not to double and to restart at the bottom. Traditionally though if your odds at each hand are close to 50/50 then typically your going to only lose 1-3 times before winning. Hopefully it stays that way for a while so that when the losing streak comes and it will, then you can either handle it or restart the system before losing big money.
It's the highlighted word in your above prose that I have a very large problem with :)
Anyway, good luck bud, you are going to need it!
Quote: TomspurIt's the highlighted word in your above prose that I have a very large problem with :)
That is seriously the least of this guy's problems. The betting strategy just gives him false hope, but the playing strategy is the expensive part.
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceThat is seriously the least of this guy's problems. The betting strategy just gives him false hope, but the playing strategy is the expensive part.
Did you really think I was even going to get into that? :)
I'm trying to be diplomatic and not call the guy the names I really want to call him. We were all new at stuff at one time or the other......
Quote: TomspurDid you really think I was even going to get into that? :)
I'm trying to be diplomatic and not call the guy the names I really want to call him. We were all new at stuff at one time or the other......
I dunno man. He is sitting at 3rd base so he can control the card that the dealer gets. Card steering!! Get him!
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceI'm sure that that feeling of control is very reassuring.
Yes it is, I actually cause the dealer to bust quite a lot.
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceOh man, the casino must love you.
Opposite actually I love the casino, and the people playing at the table with me love me. When I say I stay on those low amounts a lot, I'm also guessing if the card is high or low correctly a lot. I'm counting the highs and lows to make educated probable guesses as to what is going to come out next. I've stayed on a 6 when dealer had bust card and I felt sure that if I didn't hit he would bust, and it worked.
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceIn fairness, it's hard to get to 18 when you refuse to hit.
I'm saying you also eventually have to get dealt a 20, it's the most probable number to be dealt, I factor that in. I mean there's only 4 cards per deck that equal each number except 10, which has 16 cards per deck. I hit all the time, it just depends what has come out prior to it, I'm not going to take the chance that maybe it's a run of low cards when the odds say that a high card is coming out. So if in your mind you believe the next card will make you bust, does it matter what you have or what the dealer has showing? If you bust you lose for sure, if you stay you give yourself another chance to win.
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceQuick question: Say you got 18 every single hand. How do you like your chances?
18 iffy 19+ very good
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceWhat about cases where you lose, then tie, then lose again? That is not counted in your 25% chances of losing 2 in a row.
I would stick to the strategy and keep doubling on the loss, tie doesn't affect anything, you are still betting on the fact that you are going to win eventually
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceI dunno man. He is sitting at 3rd base so he can control the card that the dealer gets. Card steering!! Get him!
Nobody can say you are not a funny guy, or at least pretend to be :)
My job may be safe for another week or so thank goodness!
Quote: ncfatcatWhat do you do if you're flat betting at Horseshoe Southern Indiana and playing heads up against the dealer and lose every hand in a shoe? It happened!
I would never play heads up, I play with at least 2 other people at all times. I've been to that casino though actually a couple times, have a free 2 night stay coupon for there actually lol
Quote: RSX2SiI would stick to the strategy and keep doubling on the loss, tie doesn't affect anything, you are still betting on the fact that you are going to win eventually
Oh, well, so much for that 50% number then, huh? You lose way more than 50% of non-ties.
And that doesn't even include your frequent additional losses due to the strategy mistakes that you make.
Quote: RSX2SiI've stayed on a 6 when dealer had bust card and I felt sure that if I didn't hit he would bust, and it worked.
Quote: RSX2SiI would never play heads up, I play with at least 2 other people at all times. I've been to that casino though actually a couple times, have a free 2 night stay coupon for there actually lol
If you explain your strategy to the pit boss I'm sure that they will upgrade you to RFB and a suite.
Quote: gpac1377
I loled at that one to the point of tears. People are looking at me strangely right now.
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceQuote: gpac1377
I loled at that one to the point of tears. People are looking at me strangely right now.
"What you talking about Willis" :)
Quote: Tomspur
"What you talking about Willis" :)
The beauty of it was that you didn't need to say that!!
Quote: tringlomaneThe beauty of it was that you didn't need to say that!!
I said it only because I used the exact same saying in a thread yesterdaay with aceofspades, the one about his ethical dilemma.
You are right though, doesn't need to be said
I mean just winning 6 before losing 5 (take away 11 to "win") is hard enuff!
*you apparently don't realize you have learned an idea, or even come up with it on your own, that has been around for centuries
*you'd realize something else if you were more familiar with the Wizard's FAQ etc. Clearly a monumental number of gamblers have examined every nook and cranny, looked from every possible angle, examined every apparently-it-does-work-casino-beating-hedge, analyzed every possible chink-in-the armor of the house, and will continue to do so. Sometimes they find some player advantage somewhere, sure, but not from betting systems. What are the chances you've finally come across what they all were looking for? [edit]
*It takes guts to play out a Martingale. You do know that is what your system is called? If you can keep doubling your bet, and you're comfortable with those size bets, the chances you're already, or will be, a problem gambler are enormous.
Quote: http://ergodicity.net/2012/04/11/the-history-of-the-martingale/Martingale facts:
Doob [an early writer] is the one who really made the name popular (in addition to proving many fundamental results). He got the name from a thesis by Ville.
A martingale is the name for a Y-shaped strap used in a harness — it runs along the horse’s chest and then splits up the middle to join the saddle.
A martingale is a name for a betting strategy (usually we think of doubling bets) but it’s not clear which one from the historical record.
“To play the martingale is to always bet all that was lost” (dictionary of the Acad ́emie Fran ̧caise, 4th ed.) — there are earlier dictionary definitions too, to 1750.
“A very slim trail seems to indicate a derivation of the word from the Provençal expression jouga a la martegalo, which means ‘to play in an absurd and incomprehensible way’.” Apparently Provençal is also the origin of Baccarat.
So what is martegalo? It might refer to a place called Martigues, whose residents are supposedly a bit naïve.
“Martingale pants” are from Martigues, and have, according to Rabelais, “a drawbridge on the ass that makes excretion easier.”
There’s a woman in the 17th century who called herself La Martingale and who made a number of prophetic predictions.
There were sailors called martégaux who gave their name to a rope called a martegalo used on sailboats. Perhaps this is where the horse connection comes in?
Apparently “martingale” is also vernacular for “prostitute,” but the etymology for that usage is not well-documented.
http://ergodicity.net/2012/04/11/the-history-of-the-martingale/
