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October 24th, 2013 at 11:52:21 AM permalink

Quote: AxelWolf

If you had full confidence in your system, I guarantee you would not be touting it on a public forum. Only A fool would do that.

And below is what you replied on my baccarat system chalenge thread when I asked if you would disclose it on a public forum.

Quote: AxelWolf
In BACCARAT, YES absolutely. It's not some new game where someone has found flaws or something. Unless your system involves some flaw that can be explained. If have a system that involves bet selection or trending on a normal game of Bac, and you can prove you have a winning system you will be considered a gambling genius, a god in the gaming community. You will be rich beyond your wildest dreams, articles will be written about you. Website, Book ,TV,movie, consulting deals will be within your reach. You will be known as the gambler who defies math. You will be the next Edward Thorp who is worth like $800 million.

It just reminds me how Varmenti bets both Banker and Player. You have your feet on both the boats.

So which one is exactly your view ?? You would disclose or not ??

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October 24th, 2013 at 11:59:21 AM permalink

Quote: TheRealDeal
NOVICEGAMBLER, Let's put the past behind us and start over.

You have proven to me that you love the game of baccarat and like to challenge yourself in "Beating the game"
that is great because I do the same thing.

I use the Wizard of Vegas forum to put some math behind my Methods and I get the information I'm looking for from a selective few members.

Let's start over because we are on the same side. It's us against the Casino.
Let's not challenge no one with Money. The only Money comes from the Casino only and not from Personal bets.

I will be going with my wife to Vegas shortly after the baccarat tournament on Nov. 24th to December 28th.

If you like to meetup for lunch at Fallsview Casino, no probs.
We meet as friends and not enemies wanting to challenge each other.

Add yourself to my Facebook https://www.facebook.com/BacDealer and you can send me message through live chat. Just contact me through the chat and we can meetup many times at the Casino.

Again, please remember that it's not about the money. we do not need to prove anything to no one on here.

I have always maintained that I dont have any hard feelings for anyone.

I also see that you posted on your FB some scorecard from October 23rd. You were not there, I was there since 9 - 9:30am

You are more than welcome to meet me anytime at fallsview.

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October 24th, 2013 at 12:46:30 PM permalink

Well I went to go grab some lunch and came back to find that TheRealDeal (a.k.a. gr8varmenti) just posted. Looks like all his posts got deleted though.

Fighting BS one post at a time!

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October 24th, 2013 at 12:54:23 PM permalink

Quote: novicegambler
And below is what you replied on my baccarat system chalenge thread when I asked if you would disclose it on a public forum.

It just reminds me how Varmenti bets both Banker and Player. You have your feet on both the boats.

So which one is exactly your view ?? You would disclose or not ??

But you already are both touting your systems. You may not be disclosing exactly what your doing. Why are you guys talking about it at all? Just go play it break the Canadian casinos. Only after you do and they change the rules or whatever that prevents you from making all the money. Then come tell us how you did it. Then show us your money, laugh at us for not believing.

If I knew I had a Table game betting system that was easy, that could not fail, I would Never Ever NEVER, NEVER, NEVER talk about it I wouldn't want people to know it was even possible, I would be discouraging people from even playing Baccarat. until after I made millions. Even then. I would probably keep my mouth shut in hopes some foreign country still had the same opportunity.

Ya i get it, some people talk about AP, VP and Blackjack. That's not always some easy gold mine, where any mindless idiot can use money management and bet selection to beat. NOTE: I'm not calling YOU a mindless idiot.

There are some things I have played, I wont talk about, even tho its been over for years, I don't want people to know its even possible.
I have begged a few people to delete certain posts here, the information was no where as good as a million dollar baccarat system.

Also I think you and Varm are Very different,well maybe, possibly 4 of you guys are the same person with different personality's, If not, I think you are really playing and winning. I think, you think you have something. I think Varm it just trying to get someone to help fund his bad habit.

The real reason your not out busting the casinos up......In your heart you really have doubt and are not sure. U don't really want to Risk all your money.

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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October 24th, 2013 at 1:53:30 PM permalink

Quote: AxelWolf
Quote: novicegambler
And below is what you replied on my baccarat system chalenge thread when I asked if you would disclose it on a public forum.

It just reminds me how Varmenti bets both Banker and Player. You have your feet on both the boats.

So which one is exactly your view ?? You would disclose or not ??
But you already are both touting your systems. You may not be disclosing exactly what your doing. Why are you guys talking about it at all? Just go play it break the Canadian casinos. Only after you do and they change the rules or whatever that prevents you from making all the money. Then come tell us how you did it. Then show us your money, laugh at us for not believing.

If I knew I had a Table game betting system that was easy, that could not fail, I would Never Ever NEVER, NEVER, NEVER talk about it I wouldn't want people to know it was even possible, I would be discouraging people from even playing Baccarat. until after I made millions. Even then. I would probably keep my mouth shut in hopes some foreign country still had the same opportunity.

Ya i get it, some people talk about AP, VP and Blackjack. That's not always some easy gold mine, where any mindless idiot can use money management and bet selection to beat. NOTE: I'm not calling YOU a mindless idiot.

There are some things I have played, I wont talk about, even tho its been over for years, I don't want people to know its even possible.
I have begged a few people to delete certain posts here, the information was no where as good as a million dollar baccarat system.

Also I think you and Varm are Very different,well maybe, possibly 4 of you guys are the same person with different personality's, If not, I think you are really playing and winning. I think, you think you have something. I think Varm it just trying to get someone to help fund his bad habit.

The real reason your not out busting the casinos up......In your heart you really have doubt and are not sure. U don't really want to Risk all your money.

AxelWolf - I was only confused as you said on my thread that you would absolutely disclose it. Anyways coming to the point of why I am doing it ?? I am here in Canada for 2yrs now. I NEVER went to a casino before that. I am only gonna be here for around 3-4 months more and I am back home. Like I have pointed multiple times "I dont need the money". Fortunately or unfortunately my family is rich enough for me to not run behind money, my Dad is in the list of top 140 people in India who has an asset of over $400 million (I am sorry if I have to boast about myself but people just dont get it that I am not here for money). Thats also one of the reason I have never disclosed my identity on a public forum.

I only said I dont want to discuss the system now as I wanna have fun till I return to India. I AM NOT VARMENTI, I am not even 30 yrs old to be Varmenti.

The real reason I am not busting the casino is bcoz I dont want to and I dont care.

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October 24th, 2013 at 2:14:02 PM permalink

Now, it makes sense to me. With Dad being so poor, you can not afford to play for money. 400 Million rupees is over $6 Canadian, EH.

Shed not for her the bitter tear Nor give the heart to vain regret Tis but the casket that lies here, The gem that filled it Sparkles yet

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October 24th, 2013 at 2:18:33 PM permalink

Please read what I wrote. There is $ sign which means DOLLARS not Rupees. And I definitely don't need a certificate from you to show if my Dad is poor or not

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October 24th, 2013 at 2:23:30 PM permalink

Hey, you drug your Dad into this thread, not me. I am classier than that.

Shed not for her the bitter tear Nor give the heart to vain regret Tis but the casket that lies here, The gem that filled it Sparkles yet

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October 24th, 2013 at 4:32:25 PM permalink

Yup my mistake :)

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October 25th, 2013 at 4:18:40 PM permalink

Quote: BaccaratPartner
Quote: BaccaratPartner

Courtesy from https://www.facebook.com/BacDealer includes a shout out to Wizard of Vegas forum.

Feel free to try this betting with many score cards posted to give you a taste of how my methods work.
Don't be afraid of the losing tables, because there are many and they are easy to walk away from by simply limiting each session to about 20 hands. You will also notice in reaching a 200.00 goal in many sessions can be easily done within 7-15 hands average.

Enjoy.

Guys, if you have any questions in reference to this video posted feel free to ask and I'll put together a custom video to explain in more detail about my other methods to better assist you with the game of Baccarat.

I can't work miracles, but I can increase your chances of winning by simply showing you some cool tips to better your everyday play and maybe put a few bucks in your pocket.

I tried this partner system at CEASARS CASINO WINDSOR and lost my shirt at table 8.

Did I do something wrong?
I followed the steps using a much larger bank roll $5000
I bet $500 chips figuring this system is claimed to be working 100%
Table 1 +3500
Table 2 +1300 followed the limit 20 hands rule.
Table 3 - 2000 followed the limit -2K rule.
Table 4 - 2000 followed the limit -2K rule.
Table 5 +2900 with banker streak - commission.
Table 6 - 2000 followed the limit -2K rule.
Table 7 - 2000 followed the limit -2K rule.
Table 8 - 4700 followed my own limit.

Went home with empty pockets.

I can't say this works 100% but I had fun at the expense of 5K.

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October 25th, 2013 at 4:30:26 PM permalink

This is not a working system as claimed. Don't waste your time here. I proved the system does not work by losing 5K in just my first visit and seems to me that the thread starter is not making what is claimed.

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October 25th, 2013 at 4:34:28 PM permalink

Next time you want to have fun, just give $5 K to me. I could use it.

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October 25th, 2013 at 4:36:06 PM permalink

Quote: boymimbo
Next time you want to have fun, just give $5 K to me. I could use it.

You Bet'cha !!! {wink}

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October 25th, 2013 at 4:51:17 PM permalink

What timing! Right after I say that all the bac talk dies down on Fridays, they all start coming out of the woodwork. LOL! ;)

Anyway, does ringstarfan work for Apple?
Does he know Steve Wynn (instead of Donald Trump)?

Bahahaha...

Fighting BS one post at a time!

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October 25th, 2013 at 5:10:24 PM permalink

Quote: BaccaratPartner
Quote: Beethoven9th

Ah, I missed your brief reference to the WoV in the video. My mistake. Looks like it really is 'Vince Armenti' who has been posting/trolling this place.

So who is novicegambler???? Be honest, he's one of your aliases, huh?

NoviceGambler = real name Shawn, east indian guy telling by his accent, called my cell and wanted education to gamble baccarat. He is the guy that made me lose my cool an get banned on here. He is a fraud who just hangs out at the tables watching and maybe someday people feel sorry for him and flip him a 25.00 chip on occasion.

He knows nothing about gambling. and if he claims to spend 20-50k per visit, that's BS. he is fraud. I am the "Real Deal man"

VARMENTi probably has a wager on how many views Novicegambler's thread gets too. lol

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October 25th, 2013 at 5:59:44 PM permalink

Quote: novicegambler
Quote: AxelWolf
Quote: novicegambler
And below is what you replied on my baccarat system chalenge thread when I asked if you would disclose it on a public forum.

It just reminds me how Varmenti bets both Banker and Player. You have your feet on both the boats.

So which one is exactly your view ?? You would disclose or not ??
But you already are both touting your systems. You may not be disclosing exactly what your doing. Why are you guys talking about it at all? Just go play it break the Canadian casinos. Only after you do and they change the rules or whatever that prevents you from making all the money. Then come tell us how you did it. Then show us your money, laugh at us for not believing.

If I knew I had a Table game betting system that was easy, that could not fail, I would Never Ever NEVER, NEVER, NEVER talk about it I wouldn't want people to know it was even possible, I would be discouraging people from even playing Baccarat. until after I made millions. Even then. I would probably keep my mouth shut in hopes some foreign country still had the same opportunity.

Ya i get it, some people talk about AP, VP and Blackjack. That's not always some easy gold mine, where any mindless idiot can use money management and bet selection to beat. NOTE: I'm not calling YOU a mindless idiot.

There are some things I have played, I wont talk about, even tho its been over for years, I don't want people to know its even possible.
I have begged a few people to delete certain posts here, the information was no where as good as a million dollar baccarat system.

Also I think you and Varm are Very different,well maybe, possibly 4 of you guys are the same person with different personality's, If not, I think you are really playing and winning. I think, you think you have something. I think Varm it just trying to get someone to help fund his bad habit.

The real reason your not out busting the casinos up......In your heart you really have doubt and are not sure. U don't really want to Risk all your money.

AxelWolf - I was only confused as you said on my thread that you would absolutely disclose it. Anyways coming to the point of why I am doing it ?? I am here in Canada for 2yrs now. I NEVER went to a casino before that. I am only gonna be here for around 3-4 months more and I am back home. Like I have pointed multiple times "I dont need the money". Fortunately or unfortunately my family is rich enough for me to not run behind money, my Dad is in the list of top 140 people in India who has an asset of over $400 million (I am sorry if I have to boast about myself but people just dont get it that I am not here for money). Thats also one of the reason I have never disclosed my identity on a public forum.

I only said I dont want to discuss the system now as I wanna have fun till I return to India. I AM NOT VARMENTI, I am not even 30 yrs old to be Varmenti.

The real reason I am not busting the casino is bcoz I dont want to and I don't care.

Lets get this out of the way first..... I have a feeling, in the future, some how, it will come out that you YOURSELF don't have any money. WOV, has its own unofficial private detectives, EvenBob and Beethoven just to name two of the best. Once this is exposed, you will just say, "I never said I myself had a lot of money, I just said my family was rich Because my dad has ASSETS of over 400 million".

So my question is....are YOU rich in money? If so........

Then in YOUR case I would absolutely expose the system. You will never make as much money from your system as what you claim to have access to.
You will go down in history as a genus, you will be more famous then any math professor or gambling guru ever. You will have invented new math.

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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October 26th, 2013 at 12:12:28 AM permalink

Quote: Beethoven9th
What timing! Right after I say that all the bac talk dies down on Fridays, they all start coming out of the woodwork. LOL! ;)

Anyway, does ringstarfan work for Apple?
Does he know Steve Wynn (instead of Donald Trump)?

Bahahaha...

I don't eat apples, I'm not a fan of trump and i don't know who the hell wynn is. I do know that I've lost my shirt at bac trying out this BS game verment system but I have a full time job so yeah I can make up my losses in the next ahh 4 years or so.

Maybe I can drive the limo for verment and novigambler for minimum wage.

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March 15th, 2014 at 8:20:47 AM permalink

Quote: AxelWolf
Quote: novicegambler
Quote: AxelWolf
Quote: novicegambler
And below is what you replied on my baccarat system chalenge thread when I asked if you would disclose it on a public forum.

It just reminds me how Varmenti bets both Banker and Player. You have your feet on both the boats.

So which one is exactly your view ?? You would disclose or not ??
But you already are both touting your systems. You may not be disclosing exactly what your doing. Why are you guys talking about it at all? Just go play it break the Canadian casinos. Only after you do and they change the rules or whatever that prevents you from making all the money. Then come tell us how you did it. Then show us your money, laugh at us for not believing.

If I knew I had a Table game betting system that was easy, that could not fail, I would Never Ever NEVER, NEVER, NEVER talk about it I wouldn't want people to know it was even possible, I would be discouraging people from even playing Baccarat. until after I made millions. Even then. I would probably keep my mouth shut in hopes some foreign country still had the same opportunity.

Ya i get it, some people talk about AP, VP and Blackjack. That's not always some easy gold mine, where any mindless idiot can use money management and bet selection to beat. NOTE: I'm not calling YOU a mindless idiot.

There are some things I have played, I wont talk about, even tho its been over for years, I don't want people to know its even possible.
I have begged a few people to delete certain posts here, the information was no where as good as a million dollar baccarat system.

Also I think you and Varm are Very different,well maybe, possibly 4 of you guys are the same person with different personality's, If not, I think you are really playing and winning. I think, you think you have something. I think Varm it just trying to get someone to help fund his bad habit.

The real reason your not out busting the casinos up......In your heart you really have doubt and are not sure. U don't really want to Risk all your money.

AxelWolf - I was only confused as you said on my thread that you would absolutely disclose it. Anyways coming to the point of why I am doing it ?? I am here in Canada for 2yrs now. I NEVER went to a casino before that. I am only gonna be here for around 3-4 months more and I am back home. Like I have pointed multiple times "I dont need the money". Fortunately or unfortunately my family is rich enough for me to not run behind money, my Dad is in the list of top 140 people in India who has an asset of over $400 million (I am sorry if I have to boast about myself but people just dont get it that I am not here for money). Thats also one of the reason I have never disclosed my identity on a public forum.

I only said I dont want to discuss the system now as I wanna have fun till I return to India. I AM NOT VARMENTI, I am not even 30 yrs old to be Varmenti.

The real reason I am not busting the casino is bcoz I dont want to and I don't care.
Lets get this out of the way first..... I have a feeling, in the future, some how, it will come out that you YOURSELF don't have any money. WOV, has its own unofficial private detectives, EvenBob and Beethoven just to name two of the best. Once this is exposed, you will just say, "I never said I myself had a lot of money, I just said my family was rich Because my dad has ASSETS of over 400 million".

So my question is....are YOU rich in money? If so........

Then in YOUR case I would absolutely expose the system. You will never make as much money from your system as what you claim to have access to.
You will go down in history as a genus, you will be more famous then any math professor or gambling guru ever. You will have invented new math.

This thread deserves it's own tv show. This read like a novel. I came across the first post a few dad ago, and I haven't been able to stop reading lmao. I had some good laughs. I even started rooting for vermenti. I was one wanted to believe. There was one aspect I would like to discuss with the "math" side. But not on this maybe private message. If there was a way, I'm sure thy would change the rules. I can already hear them saying "there is NO way". BUT!, I to like math and physics , and my favorite although sometimes hard to grasp, quantum. Now quantum physics tells us that every possibility is possible and real. So every card is existing while waiting to be turned and observed by "the observer"(player). (Me-/you ). So, so far, every card is existing at the same time, thus not bound by our"reality" and "expectations". Because I certainly don't believe or expect one card is every card at once
e, but MATH tells us it is. So if one card is every single card at the same time, house edge, odds, variance, I feel is all out the window. At that moment, there is no house edge, there is nothing, actually, there is everything possible. The observer (player) has the ability to change the reality simply by observing.
Now the 2 slits experiment says that the observer actually changes the behaviour and movement of photons from a wave to a particle simply by being "observed". (If someone is unsure, Google 2 slits experiment .). Now with these two possibilities in play, the observer changing the cards from wry card to one card simply by observing, is it not possible the observer is able to overcome "expectations" "reality" , dare I say, house edge? Or am I even more far gone than vermenti? Also, if this were a novel, Beethoven 9th would also be novice gambler, the man who cracked vermenti. There was even a new villain at the end and everyone is still left guessing... The end?

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March 15th, 2014 at 10:01:41 AM permalink

@ gr8eethoven. Bro, after what a disappointment gr8vermenti ended up being during his "melt down", I need some type of closure. Please tell me you had enough of the stories , decided to go under cover to prove you can have multiple accounts with different writing styles, created novicegambler, managed to unhinge vermenti and have him blow his top. Quietly snickering to yourself while playing with your fingers like Mr. Burns?? Because while the ending was ok, vermenti's $150/$1500 bet stories for25,000 views was awfully anti-climactic... It was then I questioned, had I in fact wasted my time... Such an epic battle could not end like this. Disgust. So, at least tell me you are novice lol please

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March 15th, 2014 at 10:36:30 AM permalink

Quote: Gamblor
Such an epic battle could not end like this. Disgust. So, at least tell me you are novice lol please

I guess it was really the only way it could end. I've forgotten all the details, but I think some of the later varmenti aliases were deleted rather than banned, so those posts are lost to history, sadly. I'm really bad at detecting multiple accounts, and novicegambler seemed to have a flexible style, almost as if multiple people were authoring one account.

The only definite conclusion I've reached is that Niagara Falls is the epicenter of mathematically unconventional advantage play.

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September 19th, 2014 at 5:29:31 PM permalink

What casino are you playing at?

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September 19th, 2014 at 5:47:21 PM permalink

Quote: gpac1377
I guess it was really the only way it could end. I've forgotten all the details, but I think some of the later varmenti aliases were deleted rather than banned, so those posts are lost to history, sadly. I'm really bad at detecting multiple accounts, and novicegambler seemed to have a flexible style, almost as if multiple people were authoring one account.

The only definite conclusion I've reached is that Niagara Falls is the epicenter of mathematically unconventional advantage play.

Missed this at the time, but no, none of the posts were deleted, and none of the aliases are removed, just banned from posting. Were you needing a list?

If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.

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September 22nd, 2014 at 2:49:09 PM permalink

ive tried the partner betting strategy from the armenti dude

it failed

in order to succeed you need runs of player or banker often. most of the time you just break even

on chops kiss the bankroll goodbye

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September 22nd, 2014 at 4:58:43 PM permalink

Really? A system that failed? Got a shift key on that keyboard? Punctuation keys?

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September 22nd, 2014 at 4:59:36 PM permalink

Quote: DeMango
Really? A system that failed? Got a shift key on that keyboard? Punctuation keys?

too lazy to use punctuation most of the time.

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December 16th, 2014 at 9:05:05 AM permalink

Do any members here play baccarat daily and making money? Baccarat game is random or game of changes no system can overcome the odds. So how members here play the game and making money? Thanks.

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December 16th, 2014 at 9:13:42 AM permalink

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Do any members here play baccarat daily and making money? Baccarat game is random or game of changes no system can overcome the odds. So how members here play the game and making money? Thanks.

It's the same as teens on the internet posting from their mothers basement bragging about their Mercedes, mansion and trophy wife :-)
Dont believe everything you read on an internet forum.

When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums

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December 16th, 2014 at 9:25:12 AM permalink

I am very new at this and like the game very much. I am very interesting on learning how professional baccarat players play the game and making money. The game look very easy. I did very well my first three visits to casino. Lot of people telling me it beginners luck. Thanks

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December 16th, 2014 at 9:47:04 AM permalink

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I am very interesting on learning how professional baccarat players play the game and making money.

Research gr8player here and then disregard everything he is saying. After that google "Phil ivey Edge sorting" and do that.

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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December 16th, 2014 at 11:08:35 AM permalink

Quote: lovebacgame
Do any members here play baccarat daily and making money? Baccarat game is random or game of changes no system can overcome the odds. So how members here play the game and making money? Thanks.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/help/16436-going-on-tilt-and-losing-regaining-heart-seeking-a-good-read/#post308344

If and when you find him around here even for a brief moment. When egalite is not stalking people online, looking at gay porn and/or impersonating you on Al Qaeda/Jahadists websites he does pretty well at the baccarat tables raking in some $20,000 USD a month. So he proudly proclaims. Shoot him a PM if you can and he will let you know all about his self immolating labby strings template method. It is very effective. So effective you end up having tons of back/neck pain and develop sleeping issues because you can turn any casino you go to into your personal ATM. You just can't leave the tables because you will be raking it in!

He is in his annual excursion to Australia right now in trying to bring the casinos there to their knees. They are so afraid of him especially the Adelaide Casino they are trying to discourage him from playing by requiring him to pay $3.00 for a cup of coffee which he is really griping about. A big winning baccarat player complaining about $3.00 for a cup of coffee. LOL. A big high roller whale he is. Next stop rumor has it he will be in Singapore. Can't wait he steps into Resorts World there since he is banned from all Genting establishments in the UK.

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December 16th, 2014 at 11:46:35 AM permalink

Thanks Axelwolf. Yeah I read the article about Phil he cheated. I don't know how to do that. How you research gr8player up from this forum. Thank you.

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December 16th, 2014 at 12:00:28 PM permalink

LOL. Ivey didn't cheat. He or the people he was working with found an inefficiency/discrepancy and he exploit it. Ivey is labeled a cheat so the casinos have the excuse not to pay him and also they can cover their behinds for their utter stupidity from both top down and bottom up.

As for the GR8One. He is all over the place. You just have to google him.

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December 16th, 2014 at 12:16:31 PM permalink

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LOL. Ivey didn't cheat. He or the people he was working with found an inefficiency/discrepancy and he exploit it. Ivey is labeled a cheat so the casinos have the excuse not to pay him and also they can cover their behinds for their utter stupidity both from both top down and bottom up.

Thank you DMSCR. Besides discrepancy or flaw is there any real strategy to survive this game in the long run and make some money at the same time. I read flat betting but I think in my opinion the more bet you play the more chances you lose. I can not imagine myself playing the whole shoes of baccarat. Again thank you for your help.

As for the GR8One. He is all over the place. You just have to google him.

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December 16th, 2014 at 12:23:41 PM permalink

Do you have a pair of X-Ray contact lenses with Bluetooth connection to your smartphone with a program to analyze the order of the cards after the shuffle and cards cut? Then your smartphone will send signals to your right ring if it is banker or your left ring when it is player. If both of your rings vibrate then it is a tie.

There you have it. If you have that then you are guaranteed a winner.

Then you can just flat bet $100 a hand and you can really wheel it in. I don't recommend winning every hand you play though and raising your bets in any way as that would raise some major red flags. You should definitely throw in some losses here and there to cover your tracks and make it look like you are just lucky. But at the end of the shoe you are up. Say you just play some five shoes a day with a +8 units per shoe as your goal. That is $4000 a day before commissions or a straight $4,000 profit if you just win on the Player bets.

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December 16th, 2014 at 1:28:03 PM permalink

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Research gr8player here and then disregard everything he is saying.

Don't make people read a gr8 post, maybe
they're suicidal to begin with, it might push them
over the edge.

"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."

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December 16th, 2014 at 6:24:45 PM permalink

Hello EvenBob. Do you play bac regularly? How do you playing the game? May i ask. Any tips for the newbee. Thanks

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December 16th, 2014 at 6:47:20 PM permalink

Hello DMSCR. I am not trying to win big. I am looking for making like $300.00 per week if that possible. Just little extra income and have little fun. The game look so simple . I am still learning the banker draw rules. I did very well the last 3 trips to casino. I want to learn a little more about the game. My friend play this game almost a year. He told me if I play more than a year of bac the game get more complicated and harder to make bet selection. Is that true?

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December 16th, 2014 at 9:45:49 PM permalink

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Hello DMSCR. I am not trying to win big. I am looking for making like $300.00 per week if that possible. Just little extra income and have little fun. The game look so simple . I am still learning the banker draw rules. I did very well the last 3 trips to casino. I want to learn a little more about the game. My friend play this game almost a year. He told me if I play more than a year of bac the game get more complicated and harder to make bet selection. Is that true?

That's impossible unless you have something EXTRA (promotion or a casino mistake), no betting system works on Baccarat, roulette, craps etc etc.

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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December 17th, 2014 at 12:02:00 AM permalink

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Hello EvenBob. Do you play bac regularly? How do you playing the game? May i ask. Any tips for the newbee. Thanks

Yeah, bet banker. You're welcome..

"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."

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December 17th, 2014 at 6:24:11 AM permalink

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Yeah, bet banker.

That is the most profound revelation in all the existence of all gambling boards combined.

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December 17th, 2014 at 6:27:33 AM permalink

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Hello DMSCR. I am not trying to win big. I am looking for making like $300.00 per week if that possible. Just little extra income and have little fun. The game look so simple . I am still learning the banker draw rules. I did very well the last 3 trips to casino. I want to learn a little more about the game. My friend play this game almost a year. He told me if I play more than a year of bac the game get more complicated and harder to make bet selection. Is that true?

This is NOT the board to discuss and explore this. If you want to find something in regards to VP and blackjack this board is quite helpful.

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December 17th, 2014 at 7:58:18 AM permalink

Good morning DMSCR. Sorry about that I thought I am in baccarat discussion forum. Do you have any link for baccarat discussion? Thank you for your help.

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December 17th, 2014 at 10:11:09 AM permalink

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Good morning DMSCR. Sorry about that I thought I am in baccarat discussion forum. Do you have any link for baccarat discussion? Thank you for your help.

DMSCR speaks as if he knows something more about the game, but can't speak of it here because he would lose face.

Ie, either Zuga's coupon crowd is above him, or below him.

Nonsense is a very hard thing to keep up. Just ask the Wizard and company.

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December 17th, 2014 at 11:05:50 AM permalink

LOL. I am beyond clueless. I love my tinfoil hat though. It keeps me warm.

The Zuga coupon crowd will one day become my devoted followers and take over eBay with me utilizing my amazing baccarat expertise.

Back to topic. lovebacgame...

You can try Baccaratlabs, Beat the Casino, and Betselections at the moment. Don't think you will find anything useful there though. It is all the same regurgitated ideas and theories from everyone. They are just elaborate and over the top with too many funny charts and graphs thrown in. Beat the Casino you need to pay to access and it is an absolute ripoff owned by an old cranky goon. BL and Betselections are just filled with utter nonsense most of the time. Or you can go join Egalite's Baccarat Talk site at free forums. Be careful though if you have access. If you don't contribute each and every day this may piss him off. Even worse if he catches you during his big drawdowns which is quite often. Then he will obtain your IP address and then he will try to track you down and beat you up. LOL.

Yet the entertainment value is quite high.

If you want to learn obtain a baccarat software for your phone and practice. Or you can use the baccarat simulator here and find out what works for you. Honestly the folks who know are not going help you and the folks who don't are either going to discourage and/or attack you or constantly leading you in the wrong directions wasting your time.

Finding out how to play this darn game doesn't need a website, a forum or a blog. Understanding this game takes a simple completed scorecard and three to five sentences but no more than ten to explain. Then you are on your way.

Or maybe Kerkebet knows something we don't. Maybe he/she can shed some light for everyone and become that brightness to illuminate that dark baccarat tunnel!

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December 17th, 2014 at 3:34:24 PM permalink

Thank you DMSCR and everyone here have a wonderful holiday. Stay warm.

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December 17th, 2014 at 8:34:49 PM permalink

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No disrespect and I'm not sure why, but I thought you were a "Baccarat AP"?

Can I ask what you do/did for a living?

What casino games do you play most of the time, and do you feel you have an advantage?

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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December 18th, 2014 at 12:35:35 AM permalink

Hi AxleWolf. I am a truck driver for a living. I drive 48 states over the road. I own my own tractor. I contract with one of big carrier here in US. I don't gamble before my best friend introduced me to one of Indian casino in Northern California. He showed me how to play Baccarat. I like the game very much. I guess because it easy not like black jack the players can effect the out come of your hand. I did quite well the last 3 visit. My friend told me I did well because I bet whatever. I just want to learn more about the game.

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