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mickeycrimm
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October 17th, 2013 at 9:09:09 PM permalink
Quote: novicegambler

Sorry everybody, I had an unfortunate incident in my family and haven't been able to go to the Casino for the week.. I have been reading on an off on my mobile.. But just got a chance to logon today... I would be there at the Casino hopefully from Saturday or next Monday.. Will let you guys know how the visit was and about Varmenti as well..



Sounds like a job for Bandy the Rodeo Clown.
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EvenBob
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October 17th, 2013 at 9:29:10 PM permalink
Quote: novicegambler

Sorry everybody, I had an unfortunate incident in my family and haven't been able to go to the Casino for the week.. I have been reading on an off on my mobile.. But just got a chance to logon today... I would be there at the Casino hopefully from Saturday or next Monday.. Will let you guys know how the visit was and about Varmenti as well..



Whatever. I wrote twice and you read both of them immediately, you
were right here the whole time. I believe nothing you say, you've lost
all credibility. And who cares where your buddy is, he's ancient history
here.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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October 17th, 2013 at 10:23:40 PM permalink
Wouldn't believe you if your tongue was noterised. Nothing against you if you're legitimate however to much BS to belive anyone who is not verified.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
novicegambler
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October 17th, 2013 at 10:24:28 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Whatever. I wrote twice and you read both of them immediately, you
were right here the whole time. I believe nothing you say, you've lost
all credibility. And who cares where your buddy is, he's ancient history
here.



@EvenBob - Yes I did read your message, but I didnt reply.. Even though it doesnt matter for you to know or not.. I was at the hospital this whole time as one of my friend had an accident ..

I just replied to your PM saying I didnt go to Casino. And you sending this on PM - "Whatever, Vince. Who cares what you do you loser. " was uncalled for.

You could definitely think that I am Varmenti's frnd or not, thats your choice but I have nothing to say about it..
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October 17th, 2013 at 10:28:09 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Wouldn't believe you if your tongue was noterised. Nothing against you if you're legitimate however to much BS to belive anyone who is not verified. This



What do you mean by verified ?? Like I said in the beginning if I could be in Vegas that would have been great but I can't and I have said I would love to meet anyone who comes to Canada. I even had a convo with Scott (SOOPOO), who said he comes to Fallsview. I gues I will have to wait till then to be "verified"
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October 17th, 2013 at 10:30:21 PM permalink
Quote: novicegambler

@EvenBob - Yes I did read your message, but I didnt reply.. Even though it doesnt matter for you to know or not.. I was at the hospital this whole time as one of my friend had an accident ..

I just replied to your PM saying I didnt go to Casino. And you sending this on PM - "Whatever, Vince. Who cares what you do you loser. " was uncalled for.

You could definitely think that I am Varmenti's frnd or not, thats your choice but I have nothing to say about it..



You know revealing the contents of a PM is a banning offense, right?

My point was, I sent you two PM's and the time stamp says you read
them immediately, which means you were right here on the forum,
hanging out and not attending to some dire emegency. Nobody cares
about Vince anymore, he's old news.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
novicegambler
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October 17th, 2013 at 10:35:18 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

You know revealing the contents of a PM is a banning offense, right?

My point was, I sent you to PM's and the time stamp says you read
them immeiately, which means you were right here on the foum,
hanging out and attending to some dire emegency. Nobody cares
about Vince anymore, he's old news.



I also don't care about Varmenti and I wouldnt have said I will let you guys know if he exists or abt his system if people from the forum didn't ask me to find out. I have been going there playing and enjoying my life. That wouldnt change if Varmenti is there or not

And like I said yes I read your message coz the forum opens up automatically when I open Chrome on my phone as its a default tab. Thats how I read your message. But like I said I wasnt in a state to reply.

And all I said was calling me "Vince" or "loser" was uncalled for
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October 17th, 2013 at 11:10:24 PM permalink
I'll be deal ng tiles in the bacc pit starting 2 pm sat.....say hi as you walk by and I can verify you were there.
get second you pig
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October 17th, 2013 at 11:30:49 PM permalink
Quote: ontariodealer

I'll be deal ng tiles in the bacc pit starting 2 pm sat.....say hi as you walk by and I can verify you were there.


An unverified person verifying another unverified person? LOL
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October 18th, 2013 at 1:08:33 AM permalink
yeah beethoven, check your toothpaste for explosives too.
get second you pig
Beethoven9th
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October 18th, 2013 at 1:19:39 AM permalink
Quote: ontariodealer

yeah beethoven, check your toothpaste for explosives too.


Well, at least I can verify my toothpaste. lol

But seriously, don't get so upset. I'm also unverified, and you know what? It's gonna stay that way.
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October 18th, 2013 at 1:26:07 AM permalink
Quote: ontariodealer

yeah beethoven, check your toothpaste for explosives too.





TSA was so thorough they even checked the bags under my eyes.
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October 18th, 2013 at 3:02:53 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Quote: novicegambler

@EvenBob - Yes I did read your message, but I didnt reply.. Even though it doesnt matter for you to know or not.. I was at the hospital this whole time as one of my friend had an accident ..

I just replied to your PM saying I didnt go to Casino. And you sending this on PM - "Whatever, Vince. Who cares what you do you loser. " was uncalled for.

..



You know revealing the contents of a PM is a banning offense, right?

.



It's only bannable if the sender, who was me, cares. I am happy to let novicegambler reveal aanything I told him in my pm's to him. I hope to be able to make it up to Fallsview and meet him.
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October 19th, 2013 at 6:09:30 PM permalink
just worked from 2 to 8...nobody showed.
get second you pig
MrV
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October 19th, 2013 at 6:14:41 PM permalink
Must have been damned lonely at your table.
"What, me worry?"
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October 20th, 2013 at 12:43:56 AM permalink
Quote: ontariodealer

just worked from 2 to 8...nobody showed.



Hey OntarioDealer,I was there with my wife, if you worked the corner Paigow tiles table at the side Cashier entrance then we stood right at the side of your table watching the game next to the Baccarat table that had a starting run of 8 Players. we were there at 3:30.

The only other guy I noticed was at the other paigow next to sic bo but anyway,

we have nothing to prove on this forum, Obviously no member in this forum has proved to me of having any Math skills so its pointless. Even if I prove my system works and prove myself to be the "Real deal" it won't matter anyway because these big shots on here don't care and I don't care. when I started this thread it was simply to share a very good method for free to allow those baccarat players something to try and if it works for them then Great.

There are only two sides, Us and the Casino, I choose to be on the Player side and try to beat the Casino.

Don't worry admin, as much as I can so destroy your forums, I choose not to put myself to that low standard and hope you have no hard feelings.
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October 20th, 2013 at 12:46:52 AM permalink
Well, well, well.....look who's back! LOL!!!
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October 20th, 2013 at 12:47:54 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

This is getting pretty weird. Novicegambler seemed like the real
deal, I even chatted with him in PM's and he seemed genuine.
He hasn't been heard from since Monday. He was going to report
back on seeing Vince in the casino. I PM'd him twice today and he
read them both immediately, yet never replied. He was here
monitoring everything, just like Vince did.

Who are these people?



Noviceplayer is broke as a joke, he don't even gamble. You got played EvenBob. hahahaha American get's played by an East Indian located in Canada.
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October 20th, 2013 at 12:49:20 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Well, well, well.....look who's back! LOL!!!



I miss you beethoven, You made my days enjoyable. glad you're here.
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October 20th, 2013 at 12:51:06 AM permalink
Haha...your lies were hilarious. I'm still laughing at all of them!
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October 20th, 2013 at 12:51:42 AM permalink
I decided to start my forum at EXTREMEULTIMATEPRO.COM at least I can't get banned there.
I posted my Partner betting there for those interested along with some Score cards for those who like to test.

Again, my methods are always offered free of charge for your own education. Enjoy!!
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October 20th, 2013 at 12:55:47 AM permalink
Quote: BacDealer

I decided to start my forum at EXTREMEULTIMATEPRO.COM at least I can't get banned there.!


To all: Do NOT go to this website! There's probably a bunch of malware and/or trojan horses waiting for you.
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October 20th, 2013 at 12:55:50 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Haha...your lies were hilarious. I'm still laughing at all of them!



That's great beethoven, keep in mind I made up some stories to keep you and EvenBob amused. I'm glad you are happy and please accept my apology for the insult i made the other day.
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:00:52 AM permalink
Quote: BacDealer

please accept my apology for the insult i made the other day.

Which one???? LOL


Quote: BacDealer

...keep in mind I made up some stories to keep you and EvenBob amused.

Sure, I was amused, but certainly not fooled. I do give you credit though, gr8varmenti. Somehow you managed to get other (respected) members to actually defend you. One of them still even believes your lies about your gambling habits, location, etc.

*facepalm*
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:01:43 AM permalink
Quote: novicegambler

@EvenBob - Yes I did read your message, but I didnt reply.. Even though it doesnt matter for you to know or not.. I was at the hospital this whole time as one of my friend had an accident ..

I just replied to your PM saying I didnt go to Casino. And you sending this on PM - "Whatever, Vince. Who cares what you do you loser. " was uncalled for.

You could definitely think that I am Varmenti's frnd or not, thats your choice but I have nothing to say about it..



NoviceGambler is just a beginner at the Casino games, give him some slack. He called my cell to beg for education on gambling and If he didn't get so cocky with me, he would have probably made close to 2000.00 for the three days. Sorry Novicegambler, but no babysitting. i'm not holding your hand, you can watch me and my wife play but please don't talk to us when we play.
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:04:47 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Which one???? LOL

The Fat joke.

Sure, I was amused, but certainly not fooled. I do give you credit though, gr8varmenti. Somehow you managed to get several (respected) members to actually defend you. One of them still even believes your lies about your gambling habits, location, etc.! *facepalm*



I'm glad and I am greatly appreciated to have those defending me. I will probably get banned again, but like I said, I just wanted to share some method that makes me money to those baccarat players. If someone does well from my method, then I'm happy for them.
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:10:02 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

No mention again of all his gambling triumphs. Why, I'm
starting to think ol Vince was totally full of crap.



wow where did this pic come from, that's me about 6 yrs ago at Cablefest wow!!
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:10:30 AM permalink
The fat joke? Oh, don't worry about that. I was too busy laughing at you to get offended. :D


Quote: BacDealer

I'm glad and I am greatly appreciated to have those defending me.

They were defending you because they weren't keeping up with all your threads/posts. They just assumed that you were an honest guy who was arguing a debatable position. They didn't know you were a sophisticated troll who was trying to deny basic math. lol...


Quote: BacDealer

I will probably get banned again, but like I said, I just wanted to share some method that makes me money

Nah, you just get some sort of strange thrill trying to cause trouble on the Net.
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:11:44 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

This is fundamentally unfair.

Okay, the, "Cocaine," cover was pretty humiliating, there's no getting around that.

"Round and Round," though? Other than a few lyrical miscues, that really wasn't too bad. I think that there's actually room for him to improve on that particular song, too, he could actually become quite good at that song. I've certainly seen people Karaoke that song much worse, in fact, I'd say most people would sing it worse than that.

What about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGW97FdwniY&list=UUK3VGff2Fnsa_ymL7qTTTjQ

I don't understand why nobody would bring this one up, he's pretty much kicking ass in that one.

You have to admit, that's pretty darn good. Not world class, but I'd feed the tip jar a few bucks.




wow that's an old video. Yup that's me. lol
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:13:08 AM permalink
Quote: BacDealer

wow that's an old video. Yup that's me. lol


Oh, stop it. That ain't you.

How do you keep all of your identities straight anyway? It takes a lot of talent to keep up all the lies.
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:15:07 AM permalink
Quote: rob45

I'm tryin' to decide how Microsoft would react to being dragged into it.



Microsoft can "Bite Me" I make them 1 million top sales, three months in a row and all I get is a stupid award "North American Top Sales" and a stupid clock made in china.

I don't care for them thats why I quit.
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:16:45 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Oh, stop it. That ain't you.

How do you keep all of your identities straight anyway? It takes a lot of talent to keep up all the lies.



It's easy to tell truth in multiple identities, if all is true then no need to lie anyways. who cares.
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:17:13 AM permalink
Quote: BacDealer

Microsoft can "Bite Me" I make them 1 million top sales, three months in a row and all I get is a stupid award "North American Top Sales" and a stupid clock made in china.


More lies.
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:21:15 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

The fat joke? Oh, don't worry about that. I was too busy laughing at you to get offended. :D


They were defending you because they weren't keeping up with all your threads/posts. They just assumed that you were an honest guy who was arguing a debatable position. They didn't know you were a sophisticated troll who was trying to deny basic math. lol...


Nah, you just get some sort of strange thrill trying to cause trouble on the Net.



Math is good, but it's only one element, people need to realize Law of average.
If you flip a coin twn thousand times it will tell you nothing as far as law of average.

if you toss a coin 20 times and write down results, and then repeat the session recording each 20 spin session, you will begin to notice the "Law of average" This is what you can incorporate with a betting method to compensate the casino edge and show a profit more than 50% - 75% of the time. Even losing tables determine your law of average allowing one to adjust to limit losing there money.

This is the method I have incorporated to work with me on the game of baccarat thus making me money day after day.

My bankroll has quadrippled to well over 4k in just two months. and i bought mostly everything I wanted / needed so the new profits are gravy. Yes I do still get hooked into those 75% losing tables but limiting my losses to average 100-150.00 per table and winning at the other 20 tables, surely deems this method "A real Deal" in making money at baccarat.
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:25:58 AM permalink
Quote: BacDealer

Math is good, but it's only one element, people need to realize Law of average.
If you flip a coin twn thousand times it will tell you nothing as far as law of average.

if you toss a coin 20 times and write down results, and then repeat the session recording each 20 spin session, you will begin to notice the "Law of average" This is what you can incorporate with a betting method to compensate the casino edge and show a profit more than 50% - 75% of the time. Even losing tables determine your law of average allowing one to adjust to limit losing there money.


To all who think gr8varmenti was treated unfairly: Do you guys honestly expect people to seriously consider the ridiculous statements above? It's like trying to reason with a Holocaust denier and prove that the Holocaust did in fact exist. *headshake*
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:26:30 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

More lies.



I'd post my pics of my awards on here, but It doesn't matter.
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:27:27 AM permalink
Quote: BacDealer

I'd post my pics of my awards on here, but It doesn't matter.


I have no doubt that you can post someone else's awards.
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:28:08 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

To all who think gr8varmenti was treated unfairly: Do you guys honestly expect people to seriously consider the ridiculous statements above? It's like trying to reason with a Holocaust denier and prove that the Holocaust did in fact exist. *headshake*



Many people play the systems mentally in their heads, but unless you actually play the game, you will always have a hard time grasping it.
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:31:39 AM permalink
Quote: BacDealer

Many people play the systems mentally in their heads, but unless you actually play the game, you will always have a hard time grasping it.

LOL!

To all: This is too funny. Does anyone out there really believe that gr8varmenti is being serious and not trolling the forum?
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:33:24 AM permalink
Hey man, what other forums do you and your other aliases frequent?
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:38:01 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Hey man, what other forums do you and your other aliases frequent?



BacDealer and BacPro are the only two. I joined a ton of forums.

Looking for "Stadium Baccarat" places of play.
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:39:24 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

LOL!

To all: This is too funny. Does anyone out there really believe that gr8varmenti is being serious and not trolling the forum?



I don't know what Trolling is???
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:43:13 AM permalink
Quote: BacDealer

Quote: Beethoven9th

Hey man, what other forums do you and your other aliases frequent?

BacDealer and BacPro are the only two.


Another lie. But that's OK because some of us know the truth.

You can't stay away from this forum, huh? In fact, I bet you've been monitoring this forum 24/7 ever since you got nuked.

That is, except for Fridays. I don't know what you do on Fridays, but ALL of the bac talk dies down every Friday. You, ontariodealer, gr8player, novicegambler.....all of you disappeared on Friday, yet you're right back at it on Saturday.
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:45:26 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

To all who think gr8varmenti was treated unfairly: Do you guys honestly expect people to seriously consider the ridiculous statements above? It's like trying to reason with a Holocaust denier and prove that the Holocaust did in fact exist. *headshake*



I don't expect anyone to trust me. That is their choice. I simply share some secrets of the casino and thats all I care. take it or leave it. It's free education. I don't beg people to gamble and I sure don't need any money. but if you want to challenge me to meetup at a casino and not show up, then yes I will ask for a security deposit before deciding to involve my own time to teach you how to gamble using my methods let the winnings prove them self. But the methods are posted free.
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:48:00 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Quote: BacDealer

BacDealer and BacPro are the only two.


Another lie. But that's OK because some of us know the truth.

You can't stay away from this forum, huh? In fact, I bet you've been monitoring this forum 24/7 ever since you got nuked.

That is, except for Fridays. I don't know what you do on Fridays, but ALL of the bac talk dies down every Friday. You, ontariodealer, gr8player, novicegambler.....all of you disappeared on Friday, yet you're right back at it on Saturday.



for me friday mornings are my gambling times. I also have Bands I Jam with on weekends to fill my time. I have a life too ya know. I can't be on here all the time.
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:50:12 AM permalink
Quote: BacDealer

I don't know what Trolling is???

LOL...I'm dying here!


Quote: BacDealer

I don't beg people to gamble

No, you (practically) beg people to read your posts though. The only reason why I humor you and play along is because trolls like you intrigue me. Perhaps one of these days you'll tell us your real first name and where you're really located.


Quote: BacDealer

but if you want to challenge me to meetup at a casino and not show up, then yes I will ask for a security deposit

No one's falling for your scam, gr8varmenti.
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:51:37 AM permalink
Quote: BacDealer

for me friday mornings are my gambling times. I also have Bands I Jam with on weekends to fill my time. I have a life too ya know. I can't be on here all the time.


So you must play in a band with all the other bac guys on this forum.
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October 20th, 2013 at 1:56:35 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

So you must play in a band with all the other bac guys on this forum.



I'll be honest with you beethoven, since advertising that I'll be playing at the Casino on certain days / night's, noone has showed up. The only guy I may know from back in the old casino days is OntarioDealer from the old Casino Niagara back in 1996 but I met so many dealers that are now supervisors, I'm not sure if I even know him.

I don't know any others.

I'd like to get to atlantic city to meetup with gr8player for some baccarat games.


I'm not sure what you mean, seriously I don't know what Trolling is? Please explain.

Also, what scam, what do you think I am scamming? I offer free information with nothing in return.

Beethoven, you already know my first / last name / cell number / where I gamble. I am honest in comparison to the wanna be's on here. But who cares anyway.

It's 5am est time here, I'm gonna get some sleep. tomorrow I'll be at The fallsview casino for new Shoes opening 10am and 12pm sunday. have a good night.

I have reached my limited posts for the day so I keep all on here.
Maybe its just coincidence that we are all gone friday.

*Sorry Beethoven, that's my own info man.
Beethoven9th
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October 20th, 2013 at 2:05:34 AM permalink
Quote: BacDealer

I'll be honest with you beethoven, since advertising that I'll be playing at the Casino on certain days / night's, noone has showed up. The only guy I may know from back in the old casino days is OntarioDealer from the old Casino Niagara back in 1996 but I met so many dealers that are now supervisors, I'm not sure if I even know him.

I don't know any others.


And the lies keep coming...haha


Quote: BacDealer

I'd like to get to atlantic city to meetup with gr8player for some baccarat games.


Well, he's always gone on Fridays just like you. (Not that it means anything, of course)
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October 20th, 2013 at 2:07:24 AM permalink
Quote: BacDealer

Beethoven, you already know my first / last name / cell number / where I gamble.


That's someone else's info. Remember, I'm not like some people here who think you're from Niagara Falls just because you told them so. (In other words, I'm not naive enough to believe everything I read on the internet...lol)
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