Hunterhill
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March 13th, 2018 at 6:18:57 AM permalink
Quote: TumblingBones

Not sure which Wikipedia article you're looking at. The one I'm reading (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pequot) states that

... evidence now available demonstrates that the Pequot were not invaders to the Connecticut River Valley but were indigenous in that area for thousands of years.[9] By the time of the founding of Plymouth and Massachusetts Bay colonies, the Pequot had already attained a position of political, military, and economic dominance in what is now central and eastern Connecticut.


and that

... the Mashantucket Pequot Reservation, where many members of the nation continue to live .. is one of the oldest, continuously occupied Indian reservations in North America.


I'm not disagreeing that they probably had business partners and backers but so what? That's the nature of the game. Adelson, Wynn, Trump, Ho and every other casino operator has had partners and backers at various times in their careers.

You should read without reservations by Jeff Benedict.
The Pequot reservation was essentially non existent after the 1920s or 30s.
It was a scam that the Peqouts received federal recognition.
Some of their so called tribal members were actually of African American heritage who were living on the old tribal grounds,or who had been living in the ghettos of Providence Rhode Island .
Anyone can edit Wikipedia so I would take what you read there as suspect since the tribe probably edits it.
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FleaStiff
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March 13th, 2018 at 6:45:29 AM permalink
Many "Indians" take their membership in various tribes from descent of African-Americans who were taken by various tribes often as deserters from cavalry units or ordinary outlaws.

The tribe and reservation may have existed in the hearts and minds or residents in the area but the federal recognition was a lawyer and lobbyist driven act fomented by investors who had studied gaming laws. I'm told the sponsor was an "Overseas Chinese" which means, in China, an ethnically Chinese person who lives in a foreign land (such as Malaya).

Partners, front men, investors, ... terminology gets confusing, overlapping and eventually without much significance.
TumblingBones
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March 13th, 2018 at 10:01:27 AM permalink
Wikipedia can get a bad rap but one of the odder aspects of it is that the higher a reader's pre-existing knowledge of a topic, the more they tend to view it as a reliable source (e.g., historians will view it as a more reliable source of historical info then laymen). And even tho "anyone can edit" (at least for most of their pages), the good edits include plenty of references to source material. I had never heard of Benedict's book but based on your recommendation decided to take a look. The following is from the Wiki entry for "Mashantucket Pequot Tribe":
In his book Without Reservation: The Making of America's Most Powerful Indian Tribe and Foxwoods the World's Largest Casino (2001), Jeff Benedict suggested that the Mashantuckets were not descended from the historical Pequot tribe, but rather from the Narragansett tribe.[17] The Pequots denounced the book. They asserted in public debates that Benedict's genealogical research was inherently flawed, as it failed to reflect the correct descendant lineages for the Mashantucket Pequot people identified on the 1900 and 1910 US Censuses. Dr. Laurence Hauptman, a State University of New York Distinguished Professor of History and specialist in Native American history, disputed many aspects of Benedict's work. He argued with Benedict's assertions on the genealogy of current members.[4] The anthropologist Katherine A. Spilde also criticized Benedict's book.[23]
I followed up on the Hauptman reference (you can find it at https://web.archive.org/web/20081012032535/http://www.indiangaming.org/library/articles/novel-attack.shtml). It is extremely detailed (e.g., citing Civil War pension records) but the gist is that Hauptman views Benedict's "research is skimpy at best, showing little knowledge of many primary and secondary sources" and that he is " ill-informed about Native Americans, about American and Connecticut history, and even about law, his chosen profession". Benedict's goal seems to be selling books, not presenting the facts.
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BryceLarper
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April 7th, 2019 at 8:23:26 PM permalink
The sale has been in the works for a while now and itís pretty obvious that the current ownership group is milking slot players extremely hard on their way out the door. Been here several times and every time it seemed like everyone on the floor was getting torched. All denominations are comically tight
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April 8th, 2019 at 4:21:51 AM permalink
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The sale has been in the works for a while now and itís pretty obvious that the current ownership group is milking slot players extremely hard on their way out the door. Been here several times and every time it seemed like everyone on the floor was getting torched. All denominations are comically tight



nah it has always been tight all around im there more frequently than most. come to think of it the slot giveaways happen so frequently that its almost odd when you dont hear them sometimes
BedWetterBetter
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April 16th, 2019 at 7:01:14 PM permalink
Sands is one of the tightest Casinos on the East coast already. Can't imagine it would get better with a Tribe owning them!

Looks like Mount Airy might get a wave of new players!
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April 16th, 2019 at 8:17:56 PM permalink
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Sands is one of the tightest Casinos on the East coast already. Can't imagine it would get better with a Tribe owning them!

Looks like Mount Airy might get a wave of new players!



on average they make about 15-20 million a month in profit from table games i just took a look and thats being conservative

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