Sands Bethlehem or Mt Airy for $10 craps?
Quote: ECoasterI want to avoid AC shore traffic and instead take a ride into Eastern PA for some video poker and craps. This would be on Sunday or Saturday late morning / early afternoon. I figured finding a $10 craps table would be no problem but after looking online I don't know if the Sands would have anything lower than $15. Does anyone know the typical weekend daytime craps mins at the Sands? Or, would I have more luck finding what I want up at Mt. Airy? Thanks.
MT Airy is a bunch of sweat shop scum. Took 20k off them in 100 hours betting only 2x250 and then they surround my table with suits. The funny thing is they thought they could intimidate me. Theyre so tough that they made a puny little security guard do the dirty work. The even funnier thing is the count was through the roof at the moment and I was blasting away max bets. Security guard tried getting my ID and i just kept ignoring him LOL and kept playing. I got two extra max bet EV rounds in because of it while simultaneously laughing at all of them. I never gave them anything and they tried to threaten me saying theyre calling the police. I never gave them ID and told them im leaving. Cashed out and left. My only trespass ever. Couldnt have come at a more idiotic place.
I ended up getting trespassed through the mail, but the decision was likely already made anyway so i trolled them even more and kept laughing at them and told them that they dont know how to run a business and they sweat the action for no reason. I wish the security guard wouldve laid a finger on me, they would need at least 4 security guards to drag me out of there, if not more. Its all good cause these idiots didnt even send it certified mail, for all i know i never received it. Have fun proving it was me on this online post as well, that should go well in court.
To the OP, excuse the rant as i hate these people, but if you go play there, just make sure you never tip any of their workers ever and make sure you make the pit bosses job as hard as possible without being a disturbance. Just remember these bosses are not your friend, theyre just a bunch of braindead fake people that just want to take your money. That whole casino just like every casino in the world is run by braindead fake greedy scum who only act like they like you when youre a loser but as soon as youre a threat see how many smiles they send your way. Biggest joke of an industry. I cant believe anyone would ever leave a tip for anyone in these casinos. Unfortunately, dealers are the sacrificed sheep in this scenario, its not their fault, but theyre not getting a dime from me ever.
Quote: ZenKinG
To the OP, excuse the rant as i hate these people, but if you go play there, just make sure you never tip any of their workers ever and make sure you make the pit bosses job as hard as possible without being a disturbance. Just remember these bosses are not your friend, theyre just a bunch of braindead fake people that just want to take your money. That whole casino just like every casino in the world is run by braindead fake greedy scum who only act like they like you when youre a loser but as soon as youre a threat see how many smiles they send your way. Biggest joke of an industry. I cant believe anyone would ever leave a tip for anyone in these casinos. Unfortunately, dealers are the sacrificed sheep in this scenario, its not their fault, but theyre not getting a dime from me ever.
I don't think I have ever wanted to see someone end up on a overpass in Vegas begging for money and food as I do you. And I don't see that as an insult, just as poetic justice, karma or whatever you want to call it.
Your contempt for people doing their job is a simple overview of how you see your life, entitled and filled with expectations of privilege. So why do you continue make your living dealing with the "Biggest joke of an industry"? Maybe just maybe you are not really as good as you think you are. And maybe just maybe you are the joke to them. Unless things have changed they are doing good taking money from you. So who is the joke on?
I'll be in a casino later today and I'm going to tip extra today with you in mind. Why? Because I can and it helps make a hard working persons day just a little better. I don't believe in karma, but who knows, maybe it will come around. And if I have some extra bad karma to spread I know exactly where I want it go.
To the OP, sorry I took this off topic.
Quote: gamerfreakI went to Sands on a Saturday and it was crazy crowded and the minimums were high.
And even if they had been low minimums, from what I've heard a floorman could easily raise them by sheer whim so its useless to assume a low minimum at The Sands will persist for long.
Life on an overpass in Vegas would be a step up for me but I still like to think that if I got enough for a twenty dollar buyin at a craps table I'd still tiip the crew and the tray lizard.
I can't remember the last time I was there early in the day on a weekend, but if they do have $10 tables, don't expect them to last long. And if you find one, you will NOT get grandfathered in when it goes up.
IIRC, they had $10 early in the day on Tue 7/4.
I don't know if there's a 'typical' time they go up. Although I love craps, most of my time there is at poker.
Quote: BozI don't think I have ever wanted to see someone end up on a overpass in Vegas begging for money and food as I do you. And I don't see that as an insult, just as poetic justice, karma or whatever you want to call it.
Your contempt for people doing their job is a simple overview of how you see your life, entitled and filled with expectations of privilege. So why do you continue make your living dealing with the "Biggest joke of an industry"? Maybe just maybe you are not really as good as you think you are. And maybe just maybe you are the joke to them. Unless things have changed they are doing good taking money from you. So who is the joke on?
I'll be in a casino later today and I'm going to tip extra today with you in mind. Why? Because I can and it helps make a hard working persons day just a little better. I don't believe in karma, but who knows, maybe it will come around. And if I have some extra bad karma to spread I know exactly where I want it go.
To the OP, sorry I took this off topic.
If karma existed id be richer than bill gates by now with all the good ive done in my life for others etc. The sad and funny part is karma only works AGAINST me amd never FOR me. Interesting how that works out.
You just showed your true character anyway by wishing something on someone you never met or even know all that well because if you actually knew me you would havw known all the good ive done for people in real life.
Quote: ZenKinGIf karma existed id be richer than bill gates by now with all the good ive done in my life for others etc. The sad and funny part is karma only works AGAINST me amd never FOR me. Interesting how that works out.
Are you serious!? You're serious right now. You can't be. Yet somehow you are.
Some of your most recent posts have advocated NOT TIPPING employees who may be making less than minimum wage without tips because your assertion is that the employers would be forced to increase their wages, however, that increase to wages wouldn't result in a permanent increase to costs.
How long would it take for that to happen? You're advocating for instantly slashing the effective earnings of people, who likely live paycheck-to-paycheck in the first place, by 75% or more in some cases! You want to have tens of thousands of families who are not going to be able to make next month's rent because, for whatever reason, you don't appreciate the fact that people who leave tips helps you out as a non-tipper by reducing your costs.
Anyway, I personally harbor no ill will towards you, I just regret the fact that I have to read your posts. I regret the fact that I feel compelled to respond to some of your posts because I cannot allow such outlandishness to potentially go unchallenged.
Finally, I'm not saying that you haven't done any good in your life. I only have your words to go by, here. Based on your other posts, I have read nothing regarding other people aside from harboring negative feelings for them.
Furthermore, I have seen posts where you refer to yourself as, "The best there is," at card counting, or some verbiage to that effect.
Geez, I can't get myself suspended here...I'm an Administrator. Okay, I'm done. I don't want to get into anything approaching talking about you, the person.
The verbiage, tone and opinions of your fellow man that are routinely espoused in your posts, however, are nothing short of contemptible. The arrogance that is espoused in your posts is extraordinary coming from a person who, based on posts, has only a limited set of accomplishments. You're great at video games and are the best card counter in the world who just has the misfortune of having the worst luck of anyone to ever walk the Earth.
Ever hear of Job? I'm not religious. It's still a story, though. God went ahead and allowed Lucifer to specifically gun for Job. Do you think you have worse luck than Job did? Is God behind this? Does God just hate you? Karma, God, same general concept, right?
Something about Science is unable to prove anything but is able to disprove things.
I think that it is important to define “proof” at the outset. When we say that science can’t prove anything, what we mean is that it cannot show anything to be absolutely, certainly, and unequivocally true.
So that is what people mean when they say, “science can’t prove anything, but it can disprove things.” It would be much better and more accurate to state, “science generally can’t confirm hypotheses and theories, but it can falsify them,” but the core idea is essentially correct.
Anyways... its too complicated for me... I'll just stick to the invisible God Theory.
The following website is a good place to start but it is a long rabbit hole if you keep searching the topic.
https://thelogicofscience.com/2016/04/19/science-doesnt-prove-anything-and-thats-a-good-thing/
Quote: ZenKinGI never gave them ID and told them im leaving. Cashed out and left. My only trespass ever. Couldnt have come at a more idiotic place.
I ended up getting trespassed through the mail, but the decision was likely already made anyway so i trolled them even more and kept laughing at them and told them that they dont know how to run a business and they sweat the action for no reason.
Apologies if this is a dumb question, as I have never been backed off tables, but how did they get your address if you never gave up ID?
Quote: PokerGrinderSadly this is just par for the course when it comes to ZK. Just out of curiosity Mission how is his rant NOT hijacking OP's thread?
I guess it could be construed as such, but I'm generally in the habit of letting conversations just kind of go where they go unless an off-topic conversation starts to completely pervade the thread.
I agree with you that it is an excellent book, as I think the Bible has many interesting and well-told parables that teach valuable lessons. I have read the thing cover to cover and am not at all religious. I'm an Atheist-leaning Agnostic, but I certainly believe that the Bible teaches lessons that could have value for just about anybody.
Quote: IbeatyouracesThe only biblical thing I've seen that was interesting, were two Indiana Jones movies.
You have a point. No interesting stories in that book that has been around for how many years? First book published in history? Let's just say the whole thing is one big scam... you have to have something interesting in the book for it to sell so well don't you? Number one best seller of all time if memory serves? How else can the scam work if you don't have a hook?
Interesting Note... 1984 is the number two best seller I think :)
Also... Hollywood might disagree with you since they seem to have made and keep making plenty of cash off of stories from the Bible. Heck didn't that Mel Gibson make a fortune off of just one story from that book? Who doesn't like Charlton Heston in Moses or Ben Hur? You don't like Kirk Douglas in Spartacus? Not many people know The Robe but come on Richard Burton is another legendary actor. I just bought The Egyptian DVD for a few bucks... pretty compelling book and movie that isn't Bible but certainly is a similar story about Egypt trying to convert to Monotheism. Everyone is different I suppose... gonna be fun when we die and see what happens... or not so fun for me and others most likely!
Quote: Mission146Are you serious!? You're serious right now. You can't be. Yet somehow you are.
Some of your most recent posts have advocated NOT TIPPING employees who may be making less than minimum wage without tips because your assertion is that the employers would be forced to increase their wages, however, that increase to wages wouldn't result in a permanent increase to costs.
How long would it take for that to happen? You're advocating for instantly slashing the effective earnings of people, who likely live paycheck-to-paycheck in the first place, by 75% or more in some cases! You want to have tens of thousands of families who are not going to be able to make next month's rent because, for whatever reason, you don't appreciate the fact that people who leave tips helps you out as a non-tipper by reducing your costs.
Anyway, I personally harbor no ill will towards you, I just regret the fact that I have to read your posts. I regret the fact that I feel compelled to respond to some of your posts because I cannot allow such outlandishness to potentially go unchallenged.
Finally, I'm not saying that you haven't done any good in your life. I only have your words to go by, here. Based on your other posts, I have read nothing regarding other people aside from harboring negative feelings for them.
Furthermore, I have seen posts where you refer to yourself as, "The best there is," at card counting, or some verbiage to that effect.
Geez, I can't get myself suspended here...I'm an Administrator. Okay, I'm done. I don't want to get into anything approaching talking about you, the person.
The verbiage, tone and opinions of your fellow man that are routinely espoused in your posts, however, are nothing short of contemptible. The arrogance that is espoused in your posts is extraordinary coming from a person who, based on posts, has only a limited set of accomplishments. You're great at video games and are the best card counter in the world who just has the misfortune of having the worst luck of anyone to ever walk the Earth.
Ever hear of Job? I'm not religious. It's still a story, though. God went ahead and allowed Lucifer to specifically gun for Job. Do you think you have worse luck than Job did? Is God behind this? Does God just hate you? Karma, God, same general concept, right?
Once again youre making me out to be the villain and trying to make me feel guilty for not tipping and that im the bad guy because these dealers wont be making next months rent. Youre still not getting it. Im not the villian, neither is anyone who doesnt tip. The real villain is the greedy owners taking advantage of society norms to not pay their workers a fair wage.
Lastly keep the tipping subject in the proper thread. You should know this, youre an admin right? It gets beyond confusing amd is the pure defintion of a hijacked thread
Quote: ZenKinGOnce again youre making me out to be the villain and trying to make me feel guilty for not tipping and that im the bad guy because these dealers wont be making next months rent. Youre still not getting it. Im not the villian, neither is anyone who doesnt tip. The real villain is the greedy owners taking advantage of society norms to not pay their workers a fair wage.
Lastly keep the tipping subject in the proper thread. You should know this, youre an admin right? It gets beyond confusing amd is the pure defintion of a hijacked thread
Um...you know you mentioned tipping in the third post in this thread before I had ever responded to or read anything at all in this thread, right?
I don't care whether you tip or not. That's not the point. I mean, it kind of is, but it's not the real point.
Anyway, you are not a villain. You make the choice not to tip and have stated your subjective reasons for making that choice. I don't care whether you tip or not. I'm saying calling tippers, "Part of the problem," or advocating for nobody to tip is both absurd and in contrast to your own personal best interests. If nobody tips, prices will likely go up because of the increase to direct wage costs,, as a result, you will personally pay more money for things.
That's the real point. You should be happy that others DO tip because that probably keeps the prices you pay down.
Quote: WizardofnothingIf zk is this angry now - imagine once he goes bust ina. Few weeks. Smh
Sometimes when I play Reels I will have someone playing the same game next to me or a few doors down. They start losing and punching the machine pretty hard. They might be down 100 or 200 and I am stuck maybe 2 or 3 thousand quietly pushing the button as fast as I can. One time it worked out for this guy he punched the machine and a few spins later he hit the jackpot. I was thinking to myself... maybe I should get upset and punch the machine too!
One time long ago I was pretty drunk and hit two dollar royals within an hour of each other. Needless to say I was more concerned with drinking and my buddy was getting killed on Full Pay Dollar Jokers. He said something about something and I told him how I didn't care and punched the glass above the video tube with the display that is thin glass and painted. It shattered and slots came running. I apologized and promised to pay for it. They refused. My friend says I run good... they cost about 3 to 400 dollars to be replaced. I did tip them twice when I hit the two Royals and they have known me for years over there.
Another time I did the same thing at the Stardust but only cracked the glass because it was much thicker. Yes I was with the same buddy. That guy knows how to get me drunk and hot sucker lol !! Actually he immediately cashed out and we left... not my fault he got scared.
Quote: ECoasterI want to avoid AC shore traffic and instead take a ride into Eastern PA for some video poker and craps. This would be on Sunday or Saturday late morning / early afternoon. I figured finding a $10 craps table would be no problem but after looking online I don't know if the Sands would have anything lower than $15. Does anyone know the typical weekend daytime craps mins at the Sands? Or, would I have more luck finding what I want up at Mt. Airy? Thanks.
Video poker in PA is really bad, about the same as slots on the Strip.
$10 craps is common at Mohegan Sun in Wilkes-Barre, but there are usually only one or two tables going: one in smoking and one in non-smoking, sometimes three on weekends (two in the smoking section). IDK about Sands and Mt Airy, but Mrs and I have a very strong preference for Sands overall, it "feels" nicer and is less crowded. Not that there aren't a lot of people, but that the place is huge and things are spaced farther apart.
Quote: MoscaVideo poker in PA is really bad, about the same as slots on the Strip.
$10 craps is common at Mohegan Sun in Wilkes-Barre, but there are usually only one or two tables going: one in smoking and one in non-smoking, sometimes three on weekends (two in the smoking section). IDK about Sands and Mt Airy, but Mrs and I have a very strong preference for Sands overall, it "feels" nicer and is less crowded. Not that there aren't a lot of people, but that the place is huge and things are spaced farther apart.
I prefer Sands too because of the size and the fact that you can always go into town or walk over to SteelStacks for a break. But it doesn't seem like a very low roller craps joint. They were at $15 when some of the carnival games were still at $5.
Quote: ECoasterI prefer Sands too because of the size and the fact that you can always go into town or walk over to SteelStacks for a break. But it doesn't seem like a very low roller craps joint. They were at $15 when some of the carnival games were still at $5.
I really like the layout of Sands. You know, how it's kind of like a rectangle and the eateries and everything else are sort of along the far walls? Makes everything easy to get to. The bathrooms that are along the walls (corridors) also seem to be positioned in roughly the same spots relative to the walls, I noticed.
