Cruise Ship Reset Progressives
They took them all offline on day 1 while we were docked and reset them all individually.
At one point during the cruise, they also took 3 moneyball machines offline and reset all the balls to 5.
I was under the impression cruise lines followed the CLIA, which according to them means "CLIA’s members have adopted a policy that all equipment purchased and installed on cruise vessels will meet the regulatory standards of the Nevada Gaming Control Board or other licensed jurisdiction for payback and internal software."
I thought they typically have to move this money into other things, which makes me wonder if they moved them to a different ship? If not, what happened to all that player contributed money, did it just disappear?
Overall, it makes me trust cruise casinos even less than I already did
Quote: DJTeddyBearSeen on the wall next to the casino cage on Royal Caribbean. July 2018.
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Interesting, I have never seen that on Carnival, and I typically look for all of the signs like that. But, that must explain it. Surprised they don't do this more often.
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I was under the impression cruise lines followed the CLIA, which according to them means "CLIA’s members have adopted a policy that all equipment purchased and installed on cruise vessels will meet the regulatory standards of the Nevada Gaming Control Board or other licensed jurisdiction for payback and internal software."
I thought they typically have to move this money into other things, which makes me wonder if they moved them to a different ship? If not, what happened to all that player contributed money, did it just disappear?
Overall, it makes me trust cruise casinos even less than I already did
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"CLIA’s members have adopted a policy that all equipment purchased and installed on cruise vessels will meet the regulatory standards of the Nevada Gaming Control Board or other licensed jurisdiction for payback and internal software."
Clearing the progressives does not invalidate the above statement. The equipment still meets the standards, it is the operation of the equipment that is being handled differently. As the operator of the equipment, the policy makes sense as it adds extra revenue and the players that contributed that money are no longer on the ship so it is not negatively impacting the players that contributed the money.
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I was under the impression cruise lines followed the CLIA, which according to them means "CLIA’s members have adopted a policy that all equipment purchased and installed on cruise vessels will meet the regulatory standards of the Nevada Gaming Control Board or other licensed jurisdiction for payback and internal software."
I thought they typically have to move this money into other things, which makes me wonder if they moved them to a different ship? If not, what happened to all that player contributed money, did it just disappear?
Overall, it makes me trust cruise casinos even less than I already did
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"CLIA’s members have adopted a policy that all equipment purchased and installed on cruise vessels will meet the regulatory standards of the Nevada Gaming Control Board or other licensed jurisdiction for payback and internal software."
Clearing the progressives does not invalidate the above statement. The equipment still meets the standards, it is the operation of the equipment that is being handled differently. As the operator of the equipment, the policy makes sense as it adds extra revenue and the players that contributed that money are no longer on the ship so it is not negatively impacting the players that contributed the money.
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Would you be okay with a land casino doing this? They could say "well, the players who contributed the money have left the casino and gone home, and now we have new players".
Gimme a break. This is a crock.
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Would you be okay with a land casino doing this? They could say "well, the players who contributed the money have left the casino and gone home, and now we have new players".
Gimme a break. This is a crock.
I do not agree with it, but who is being hurt or mislead? The only expectation for the player is that they will be paid the amount on the meter when the outcome is hit.
The one I would dispute is when two people hit a progressive at about the same time. Generally, it is paid to the person that they believe hit it first. I would argue both should b paid the amount, if that amount was displayed at the initiation of the spin. At that point a player is expecting that payout if they achieve the outcome because that was the amount displayed when the wager took place. I think I could successfully argue that in front of the Nevada Gaming Control Board.
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Would you be okay with a land casino doing this? They could say "well, the players who contributed the money have left the casino and gone home, and now we have new players".
Gimme a break. This is a crock.
I do not agree with it, but who is being hurt or mislead? The only expectation for the player is that they will be paid the amount on the meter when the outcome is hit.
The one I would dispute is when two people hit a progressive at about the same time. Generally, it is paid to the person that they believe hit it first. I would argue both should b paid the amount, if that amount was displayed at the initiation of the spin. At that point a player is expecting that payout if they achieve the outcome because that was the amount displayed when the wager took place. I think I could successfully argue that in front of the Nevada Gaming Control Board.
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The moneyball machines were evidently reset mid-cruise. That seems pretty sleazy, if true.
