Quote: KeyserYes, they are. And so it might be time to rethink that pay for parking on the strip that everyone just loves!
Thunder Valley is very smoky. Hopefully they tag some of that money for air cleaning.
For me, LV is about everything BUT the gaming. The California Indian sites offer the same gaming as Nevada except for craps. I mean, you take a walk from Mandalay Bay to Bellagio (all MGM properties) there's very little variety in gaming. But each hotel has a different flavor, different food, and different shows. That's what I enjoy about Vegas. And the pools.
They have to rob Peter to pay Paul and nowadays its the nightclubs and restaurants, not the gaming, that brings in the revenue.Quote: KeyserI've always wondered by they let the games and the restrooms remain so gross.
You can drive past Thunder Valley and go over the mountains to Reno but what do you gain from doing that? More casinos but more fleas and more street/parking crime. Thunder Valley had a few fights but only one Roofie/Rape/Murder case.
Quote: FleaStiffYou can drive past Thunder Valley and go over the mountains to Reno but what do you gain from doing that? More casinos but more fleas and more street/parking crime. Thunder Valley had a few fights but only one Roofie/Rape/Murder case.
You get:
(a) legal sports betting
(b) "real" craps and roulette - I am a little surprised the tribe's revised compact with the state (Cache Creek's new one, that allows an expansion to 3500 machines, is the same way as well) does not include the bans on E-roulette and any version of "card craps" where they use dice to determine the cards that, for example, the Graton compact has
(c) in the winter, skiing
Also, Thunder Valley doesn't seem to be catering to the "entertainment crowd" like it used to.
Quote: FleaStiffThey have to rob Peter to pay Paul and nowadays its the nightclubs and restaurants, not the gaming, that brings in the revenue.
You can drive past Thunder Valley and go over the mountains to Reno but what do you gain from doing that? More casinos but more fleas and more street/parking crime. Thunder Valley had a few fights but only one Roofie/Rape/Murder case.
You get more options on where to play and stay. Betting $5 -$10 a hand in BJ will net you a free room at a 4 star resort. As far as the fleas and street parking crimes, stay away from the flea bag casinos and valet your car at the nice resorts, it's free! I've been to TV, it's very nice but it's also nice to have options. Might even have more liberal rules depending what you like to play. Heck the poker room at the Atlantis pays $4 an hour comp dollars for every player, regardless of status. 5 x comp dollars playing on the machines on Friday of all days. Bargains all over town. I love living in Reno. It's the way Vegas use to be 50 years ago.
Quote: ThatDonGuyYou get:
(a) legal sports betting
(b) "real" craps and roulette - I am a little surprised the tribe's revised compact with the state (Cache Creek's new one, that allows an expansion to 3500 machines, is the same way as well) does not include the bans on E-roulette and any version of "card craps" where they use dice to determine the cards that, for example, the Graton compact has
(c) in the winter, skiing
Also, Thunder Valley doesn't seem to be catering to the "entertainment crowd" like it used to.
Good points!
Also, though I've stayed at Thunder Valley and enjoy the hotel, I prefer the gambling at Reno casinos because you get:
—Complementary alcohol for players
—Full pay video poker at the big casinos
—$1 (+$1 jackpot pool) rake for live poker on many hands (vs. $4 + $1 jackpot pool at TV)
—Better variety of low-denomination "classic" slot machines (i.e. 2000s)
—Pai gow tiles
—Decent comps even for low rollers
Its possible that more people should consider fleeing the glitter of Las Vegas, the parking fees, the Resort Fees, the Restaurant and Nightclub scene and trek to Reno to get "old style Vegas" just as many trek to Geritol Country to escape the traffic nightmares of the Las Vegas Strip.
Thunder Valley for many seems to be adequate though by no means optimal.