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August 1st, 2025 at 9:13:42 PM permalink
I am on a quest to play the widest variety of table games that I can (without destroying my bank account). I recently moved to NYC and I am interested in visiting Atlantic City. What time/day should I go to see the widest variety of games, without the minimum bets being too high? I assume Sunday might have that balance but I could be wrong.
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August 1st, 2025 at 9:33:55 PM permalink
I can't mention your bank account, it's in five figures or more right? Or it will be after you win.

I dunno, I've never been there, but weekdays except Fridays are when to expect lower minimums if there are lower minimums.
Maybe check out some travel gambler YouTube videos to see about what the hotels are like and had they any luck playing anything, or if the food was good.

Table Game Survey for Casinos in Atlantic City, New Jersey
https://atlanticcityadvantage.com/table-games/
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It's 2 hours to get from NYC to Atlantic City, 126 miles
It's 2 hrs 30 min to get to Foxwoods, 140 miles
It's 2 hrs 45 min. to get to Rivers Casino in Schenectady, NY (near Albany, NY), 166 miles
It's 1 hr 20 min. to get to Parx Casino in Bensalem, PA, 79 miles (I really don't like trips over 100 minutes)
It's 1 hr 35 min to get to Rivers Casino in Philadelphia, PA, 92 miles

From the description below, I'd only reserve AC for high roller visits where I'm looking for table maximums.

Resorts World in Queens has Class II slots. I avoid them like the plague, but for cash-outs under $600 on e-games it might be a go. I doubt there's table games there.
"The casino features four automated table games—baccarat, blackjack, craps, and roulette—and a wide array of video slot machines. Baccarat is played with real playing cards, dealt inside a machine."
They might be getting an upgrade in their gambling license soon so tables could be coming and VLT's could disappear.

Resorts World submitted their bid for a commercial casino license on June 27, 2025. If the bid were approved, Resorts World planned to start construction as soon as mid-2026.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resorts_World_New_York_City

I have no idea what table minimums they may have once they switch over. It could be $25 for most games or more reasonable with $10 & $15 minimums.
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August 1st, 2025 at 10:23:24 PM permalink
Any weekday. Some of all games are open every day all day. Take the 319 bus from Port Authority. Bring something disposable to sit on, and that's especially so if the bus you are on does not have a lavatory. On such buses, when used for long hauls, the seats have been used as lavatories. You may wish to take rideshare or taxis from the AC bus station to the Boardwalk because there are people in AC who will attack. Suffice it to say that after 20 years playing in AC there is no casino environment in Las Vegas that alarms me. Or you can take Greyhound or OurBus and that will take you right from either Port Authority or some random place in Midtown to the Boardwalk side.

Another alternative if you just want to investigate a lot of table games is go to Foxwoods or Mohegan in CT. They have a few things there you won't see in AC. In fact that might be best of all for general investigation of table games. You can take a bus there too, and rideshare between the two. Rooms will be reasonable and available on the weekdays.
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August 2nd, 2025 at 3:30:26 AM permalink
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I am on a quest to play the widest variety of table games that I can (without destroying my bank account). I recently moved to NYC and I am interested in visiting Atlantic City. What time/day should I go to see the widest variety of games, without the minimum bets being too high? I assume Sunday might have that balance but I could be wrong.
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PA casinos have lower minimums and better rules than AC, CT and Vegas.

Weekend PARX blackjack is $10 min, 3/2 Blackjack, Late Surrender, Dealer stands on all 17's. 8 deck shoe. State makes the Rules.

Craps is $15 min, and $5 min on the 'Roll to Win' table.

Resorts World Aqueduct racino in Queens has $1 bubble craps and $1 '00' roulette. $5 Baccarat. Bad Blackjack rules. Slot payouts 93.75%. Possibly highest in the nation.

AC is 90.82%. PA is around 90.0%
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August 2nd, 2025 at 3:57:51 AM permalink
I don't have a car, so I can only easily go to AC since there is a bus that goes once an hour or so.

Also the beach is funner than the middle of nowhere in pennsylvania or connecticut
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August 2nd, 2025 at 5:33:25 AM permalink
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I don't have a car, so I can only easily go to AC since there is a bus that goes once an hour or so.

Also the beach is funner than the middle of nowhere in pennsylvania or connecticut
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If you are going to "work", why does a beach matter? There are buses to all the places mentioned above.
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August 2nd, 2025 at 9:13:06 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

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I don't have a car, so I can only easily go to AC since there is a bus that goes once an hour or so.

Also the beach is funner than the middle of nowhere in pennsylvania or connecticut
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If you are going to "work", why does a beach matter? There are buses to all the places mentioned above.
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Pennsylvania busses aren't that easy to navigate because the casinos are spread out. By bus, each PA casino is at least an hour bus ride apart. And not all of them are a straight shot from NYC.

Valley Forge for example is a bus or Amtrak to 30th Street station followed by a 1 hour local bus.

Except for Wind Creek I am unaware of any direct busses. Even Mount Airy requires a Lyft or Uber from the bus station and the scheduling isn't that great either

It's doable but a hassle
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August 2nd, 2025 at 10:18:45 AM permalink
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Except for Wind Creek I am unaware of any direct busses. Even Mount Airy requires a Lyft or Uber from the bus station and the scheduling isn't that great either

It's doable but a hassle
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Mt. Airy banned the buses from Chinatown after the infamous Duck Head Incident. The severed heads of ducks were discovered at the duck pond, and then it was found that the rest of the ducks were leaving on the bus back to Chinatown.
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August 2nd, 2025 at 12:03:32 PM permalink
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Except for Wind Creek I am unaware of any direct busses. Even Mount Airy requires a Lyft or Uber from the bus station and the scheduling isn't that great either

It's doable but a hassle
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Mt. Airy banned the buses from Chinatown after the infamous Duck Head Incident. The severed heads of ducks were discovered at the duck pond, and then it was found that the rest of the ducks were leaving on the bus back to Chinatown.
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Mmm…! Peking duck… So crispy!

ETA: Hmm… A nearby park has a duck pond that attracts ducks and geese… No bus needed!
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August 2nd, 2025 at 4:48:31 PM permalink
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I don't have a car, so I can only easily go to AC since there is a bus that goes once an hour or so.

Also the beach is funner than the middle of nowhere in pennsylvania or connecticut
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If you are going to "work", why does a beach matter? There are buses to all the places mentioned above.
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He didn't say he was going to work.
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August 3rd, 2025 at 9:51:34 AM permalink
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Quote: billryan

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I don't have a car, so I can only easily go to AC since there is a bus that goes once an hour or so.

Also the beach is funner than the middle of nowhere in pennsylvania or connecticut
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If you are going to "work", why does a beach matter? There are buses to all the places mentioned above.
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He didn't say he was going to work.
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He said he was going on a quest. Only someone who has never been on one would think they aren't "work".
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August 3rd, 2025 at 2:00:43 PM permalink
It's unfortunate he doesn't have a car. I know nothing about car rentals, but if I wasn't broke I'd consider it to get around to these places if the bus trips are too disgusting. Just gotta win enough to pay for the rental, but better yet, include it in your upfront losses and try to win it back. Typically I'd be betting $500 sessions and trying to triple-up on a $15 table. Counting cards is not allowed.
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August 3rd, 2025 at 3:24:26 PM permalink
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It's unfortunate he doesn't have a car. I know nothing about car rentals, but if I wasn't broke I'd consider it to get around to these places if the bus trips are too disgusting. Just gotta win enough to pay for the rental, but better yet, include it in your upfront losses and try to win it back. Typically I'd be betting $500 sessions and trying to triple-up on a $15 table. Counting cards is not allowed.
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Living in southern CT I used to make that run to AC on mass transit all the time. The biggest reasons were the traffic and the tolls if you drive; you have to deal with the inbound NYC traffic as you approach and the outbound NYC traffic as you leave. But I could take commuter rail into NYC, that took you to Grand Central Station, then you have about a mile walk or a subway ride (that will include about a half mile walk anyway) across town to the Port Authority building. Then once you were on the bus he has a private lane right to the Lincoln Tunnel, so he has no Manhattan traffic to deal with, and when he pops out in NJ he's already past half of the outbound traffic because of how far south he came out. Then he can use the HOV lanes all the way down to the Jersey Shore. And I can rest or study on the bus. Totally a bargain. The only time when I would drive there is if I was going to be there for a week and I might want to go to Philadelphia area or something else in the area that isn't a casino.

As far as conditions on the bus, it depends on who and what is on board that ride. It's not as bad as the BART in San Francisco or even the Vegas buses usually. But I have gotten off very dirty and needed to shower and change clothes, and that happened once on the return trip where I had to change clothes in the parking lot before getting in my car. But that happens in a casino too. I've had a few incidents where I got befouled right at the table.
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August 3rd, 2025 at 3:45:13 PM permalink
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As far as conditions on the bus, it depends on who and what is on board that ride. It's not as bad as the BART in San Francisco or even the Vegas buses usually. But I have gotten off very dirty and needed to shower and change clothes, and that happened once on the return trip where I had to change clothes in the parking lot before getting in my car. But that happens in a casino too. I've had a few incidents where I got befouled right at the table.
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About 3 weeks into my casino adventures, I started keeping a few changes of clothes in the car.
A small duffel bag with a change of clothes (or two) and a plastic trash bag to hold the removed items has certainly been helpful.
If you add deodorant, a toothbrush, and toothpaste, you've got almost all the bases covered should you suddenly desire to extend your trip for an extra day or two.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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August 3rd, 2025 at 4:08:19 PM permalink
I used to get horrible zits on my back from riding the LA City buses. It'd be 95 degrees and my shirt would be wet from sweat and it would pick up whatever germs were on the back of the seat and wham a big 1" zit. Now my back is covered in moles, over a hundred bigger ones. I don't know why that happened, maybe X-Rays from the TV or something.
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August 4th, 2025 at 3:43:02 AM permalink
Update: I went to Atlantic City and stayed up all night to walk to every casino. Unfortunately, all the new games I saw were closed or in one case, reserved. These games are Heads Up Hold’Em, Crapless Craps, Texas Hold’Em Bonus, and Flop Poker. I saw a surprisingly large amount of Let It Ride.

Actually I did see one game I hadn’t played before that was available; Asian Poker. I asked the pitboss for the house way and he didn’t have any information on the game so I left. Maybe next time, but I prefer to know the complete rules to not make the house edge larger than it needs to be.

Anyways I lost $40 which has emotionally devastated me, I’m not going to gamble again for a long time (my lifetime winnings are still over $1000 but I am bad at handling loss like this).
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August 4th, 2025 at 5:24:45 AM permalink
Did you go there on Sunday? If you ask for the house way, you must be an advanced player.
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August 4th, 2025 at 7:30:23 AM permalink
Yes I went this Sunday night to Monday morning, I just got back to NYC.

I am an advanced player but not as advanced as some people in this forum :)
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August 4th, 2025 at 8:19:16 AM permalink
I'd find some $2 game with $50 sessions or $5 game with $100 sessions with only $1,000 to play with. $2 BJ used to exist 30 years ago, can't even find it on good Virtual BJ now, but there is e-craps.
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August 4th, 2025 at 8:39:40 AM permalink
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As far as conditions on the bus, it depends on who and what is on board that ride. It's not as bad as the BART in San Francisco or even the Vegas buses usually. But I have gotten off very dirty and needed to shower and change clothes, and that happened once on the return trip where I had to change clothes in the parking lot before getting in my car. But that happens in a casino too. I've had a few incidents where I got befouled right at the table.
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About 3 weeks into my casino adventures, I started keeping a few changes of clothes in the car.
A small duffel bag with a change of clothes (or two) and a plastic trash bag to hold the removed items has certainly been helpful.
If you add deodorant, a toothbrush, and toothpaste, you've got almost all the bases covered should you suddenly desire to extend your trip for an extra day or two.
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Years ago, someone told me always to keep a nice change of clothes in your trunk, in case an opportunity pops up. I spent a bit over $100 on a shirt, pants, underwear, and a belt. I also stuck a pair of shoes in there. Time goes by, and I'm invited to a party a good distance away. I drive there, feeling confident that I have clothes in the trunk and somewhat proud of having the foresight to be so prepared. I get out to the Hamptons and stop at a truck stop to change. T'was then that I learned that storing clothes next to a leaky container of antifreeze wasn't as good a plan as I'd thought it was.
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August 4th, 2025 at 9:15:35 AM permalink
Oops,lesson learned.aybe keep them in a duffel bag in your back seat
And everything but the shoes could have been laundered so you don't have to spend another $100
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August 4th, 2025 at 9:42:13 AM permalink
The shirt was ruined, and I think I threw the whole bag away. I now keep things in waterproof containers.
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August 4th, 2025 at 10:25:05 AM permalink
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As far as conditions on the bus, it depends on who and what is on board that ride. It's not as bad as the BART in San Francisco or even the Vegas buses usually. But I have gotten off very dirty and needed to shower and change clothes, and that happened once on the return trip where I had to change clothes in the parking lot before getting in my car. But that happens in a casino too. I've had a few incidents where I got befouled right at the table.
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About 3 weeks into my casino adventures, I started keeping a few changes of clothes in the car.
A small duffel bag with a change of clothes (or two) and a plastic trash bag to hold the removed items has certainly been helpful.
If you add deodorant, a toothbrush, and toothpaste, you've got almost all the bases covered should you suddenly desire to extend your trip for an extra day or two.
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Years ago, someone told me always to keep a nice change of clothes in your trunk, in case an opportunity pops up. I spent a bit over $100 on a shirt, pants, underwear, and a belt. I also stuck a pair of shoes in there. Time goes by, and I'm invited to a party a good distance away. I drive there, feeling confident that I have clothes in the trunk and somewhat proud of having the foresight to be so prepared. I get out to the Hamptons and stop at a truck stop to change. T'was then that I learned that storing clothes next to a leaky container of antifreeze wasn't as good a plan as I'd thought it was.
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Graciously, I didn't find myself carrying a leaky jug of antifreeze, and I usually had cause to check the status of the clothing about every 2 weeks. ;)
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August 4th, 2025 at 10:51:19 AM permalink
In my defense, the antifreeze wasn't leaking when I put the bag there.
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August 4th, 2025 at 12:36:43 PM permalink
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Update: I went to Atlantic City and stayed up all night to walk to every casino. Unfortunately, all the new games I saw were closed or in one case, reserved. These games are Heads Up Hold’Em, Crapless Craps, Texas Hold’Em Bonus, and Flop Poker. I saw a surprisingly large amount of Let It Ride.

Actually I did see one game I hadn’t played before that was available; Asian Poker. I asked the pitboss for the house way and he didn’t have any information on the game so I left. Maybe next time, but I prefer to know the complete rules to not make the house edge larger than it needs to be.

Anyways I lost $40 which has emotionally devastated me, I’m not going to gamble again for a long time (my lifetime winnings are still over $1000 but I am bad at handling loss like this).
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Well sure, they have a ton of Let It Ride down there because it has the highest house edge of the common table games. It doesn't matter that few if any people play it to the typical chicken-brained casino executive. People hate that game. Doesn't matter- because the industry is contracting, every executive decision is now made to sound smart in a meeting rather than to improve business for the casino because these guys all need to protect their management positions. They will not be getting another management position, and being mostly older white males they had better "know somebody" if they want as much as a janitorial position in a casino.
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