AC bus warning 7/28/18

Screw Greyhound. When I was younger, dumber, and didn’t properly value my time and sanity i used to take greyhound from nyc to AC regularly. During the off season the trips were USUALLY ok. Drivers were largely on time, and the busses weren’t usually that packed so the trip was tolerable enough. During summer weekends though the experience was almost always horrendous. Countless cancelled trips, multiple 2+ hour delays, and tons of sweaty and irritated people to deal with. Often a bus would just never show up and no explination would be given. And don’t get me started on break downs. I’ve personally been on 5 bus break downs that resulted in 3+ hour delays. Once we broke down right outside the Lincoln tunnel and it took them two hours to send a new bus to pick us up. People were pouring out on to the highway to get Uber’s to drive them. Pathetic.

Greyhound is a pos company and deserves bankruptcy. Do not patronize them. Take NJ transit bus, it’s only 10 min longer trip (makes one other stop) and the drivers are better, class of rider better, and almost always on time/technically reliable. Only downside is you don’t get the stupid free play coupon but for me the peace of mind and exponentially better experience is worth more to me than 20$ of EV and hundreds of hours of wasted time. F Greyhound, seriously. The company has taken years off me life and has helped make me a more bitter person than i should be.

Quote: gamerfreak

Maybe I’m just poor, but $50/hr is the equivalent to a $104k salary.

You are right, but when you only get it once a week it is only $200. $200 is a lot of money but when one has time constraints they must weigh the benefits of $200 against the four hours of time they would be losing. If I was poor, I would go every week.

Quote: billryan

That's why we have henchmen, minions and underlings.
I'd try and squeeze two roundtrips a day out of them.

I dont know what homeless people you got working for you but if I was to do a bus hustle the amount i paid them would leave no profit for me

Not to mention anyone willing to work that low probably is skimming off the top

That type of hustle is a do-it-yourselfer unfortunately

Quote: darkoz

I dont know what homeless people you got working for you but if I was to do a bus hustle the amount i paid them would leave no profit for me

Not to mention anyone willing to work that low probably is skimming off the top

That type of hustle is a do-it-yourselfer unfortunately

I laid out the entire plan. The clients pay, not you. Little to no overhead.

Quote: billryan

I laid out the entire plan. The clients pay, not you. Little to no overhead.

Maybe managing haunted houses would be more practical.

Quote: Hoodstar

Screw Greyhound. When I was younger, dumber, and didn’t properly value my time and sanity i used to take greyhound from nyc to AC regularly. During the off season the trips were USUALLY ok. Drivers were largely on time, and the busses weren’t usually that packed so the trip was tolerable enough. During summer weekends though the experience was almost always horrendous. Countless cancelled trips, multiple 2+ hour delays, and tons of sweaty and irritated people to deal with. Often a bus would just never show up and no explination would be given. And don’t get me started on break downs. I’ve personally been on 5 bus break downs that resulted in 3+ hour delays. Once we broke down right outside the Lincoln tunnel and it took them two hours to send a new bus to pick us up. People were pouring out on to the highway to get Uber’s to drive them. Pathetic.

Greyhound is a pos company and deserves bankruptcy. Do not patronize them. Take NJ transit bus, it’s only 10 min longer trip (makes one other stop) and the drivers are better, class of rider better, and almost always on time/technically reliable. Only downside is you don’t get the stupid free play coupon but for me the peace of mind and exponentially better experience is worth more to me than 20$ of EV and hundreds of hours of wasted time. F Greyhound, seriously. The company has taken years off me life and has helped make me a more bitter person than i should be.

Oh NO, another ZK coming our way.
But thanks for the info.

Quote: MaxPen

Maybe managing haunted houses would be more practical.

I live in Comp City. Work is for little people.

Quote: billryan

I live in Comp City. Work is for little people.

*vertically challenged

you ignant bruh

Quote: billryan

I live in Comp City. Work is for little people.

The Return of Zombie Leona! Never thought I'd see the day. Lol...

New Yorker Magazine.
Sept 5, 2018
Culture section article on the NYC Korean community and the "casino bus people" who share a life of poverty.

Quote: FleaStiff

New Yorker Magazine.
Sept 5, 2018
Culture section article on the NYC Korean community and the "casino bus people" who share a life of poverty.

Thanks. Just read it

Nothing inaccurate but a very small article with no resolution

It ends with a discussion of one guy searching for his brother who he suspects is gambling but doesnt find him

Okay sooo?

Im sure there are plenty of people who have lost touch with someone and are searching for them.

The one and only time I took a " China Town" express bus from Flushing to AC, you paid $15 and got $20 and a $10 food credit.
They also stamped your wrist to ensure just one bonus per day.

Quote: FleaStiff

New Yorker Magazine.
Sept 5, 2018
Culture section article on the NYC Korean community and the "casino bus people" who share a life of poverty.

Where is the link to the article?

Quote: MaxPen

Where is the link to the article?

Article blurb.
https://www.newyorker.com/contributors/e-tammy-kim

Quote: billryan

The one and only time I took a " China Town" express bus from Flushing to AC, you paid $15 and got $20 and a $10 food credit.
They also stamped your wrist to ensure just one bonus per day.

Now, one must show photo ID to get the $25 bonus, which is put into the rider's Total Rewards account. (The rider is also given a $25 direct bet coupon.)

I don't know whether a rider, now, is restricted to one bonus per day or not.

Quote: billryan

The one and only time I took a " China Town" express bus from Flushing to AC, you paid $15 and got $20 and a $10 food credit.
They also stamped your wrist to ensure just one bonus per day.

There is no hustle between flushing and ac on the chinatown buses. There are AC busses but the offers are scoffed at

The main hustle is the sands casino

Quote: darkoz

There is no hustle between flushing and ac on the chinatown buses. There are AC busses but the offers are scoffed at

The main hustle is the sands casino

Last time I went to AC by bus, the Sands was still open. My knowledge of AC is very dated.

Quote: billryan

Last time I went to AC by bus, the Sands was still open. My knowledge of AC is very dated.

I see

I remember the Sands AC

To bring you up to date

The Sands in AC was torn down sometime in the late 90's early 2000's to make way for the Pinnacle

But fundinng fell through. Its now an empty lot

2009 the Sands casino was built in Bensalem Pennsylvania. To compete they offerred and still offer good fp incsntives to the NY market

Thats the bus hustle you see us mentioning

He’s talking about the Sands in PA i would imagine. For a long time when riders would arrive by bus to the Sands the casino greeter would hand each rider a blank players card with 45$ on them. There were a ton of Asians who just rode the bus back and forth multiple times today and sold the 45$ card or played it out and were making a living basically living on a bus lol. To my knowledge the Sands fixed that awhile ago, been a long time since I’ve been though.

Quote: Hoodstar

He’s talking about the Sands in PA i would imagine. For a long time when riders would arrive by bus to the Sands the casino greeter would hand each rider a blank players card with 45$ on them. There were a ton of Asians who just rode the bus back and forth multiple times today and sold the 45$ card or played it out and were making a living basically living on a bus lol. To my knowledge the Sands fixed that awhile ago, been a long time since I’ve been though.

I went about a year and half ago although not by bus. Met some of the bus riders still doing the same hustle

The only thing Sands did to my knowledge was disallow freeplay on the video blackjack and VP tables

From the article published this month in the New Yorker it sounds like its still going on

Quote: FleaStiff

New Yorker Magazine.
Sept 5, 2018
Culture section article on the NYC Korean community and the "casino bus people" who share a life of poverty.

Do you not share links anymore?

Quote: onenickelmiracle

Do you not share links anymore?

It was bad enough when I was on someone's computer that had a double clicking mouse. Now I'm on one of these touch the screen to slide the image things and typing moves the cursor. Worse is that now I am often posting sober.
Somewhere Upthread I added the link for you. The link is to the author of the piece and the first item listed is the piece itself.
You can also get there by going to New Yorker sept 5th issue culture section.

"Once at the casino, they receive free vouchers for food and gaming, which they then sell for forty dollars or so on the black market."

Who are they selling them to? People in Queens or in AC? What is the face value and what makes it worth $40?

Quote: TigerWu

"Once at the casino, they receive free vouchers for food and gaming, which they then sell for forty dollars or so on the black market."

Who are they selling them to? People in Queens or in AC? What is the face value and what makes it worth $40?

Lol try the Sands in Pa. Not AC or queens

Bus rider pays $15 in flushing queens

90 minutes later arrives Sands in Pa. Handed $45 freeplay (they dont do food anymore unless they went back to that)

Rider sells $45 fp (on generic players card no pin required) to local gambler for $40.

Rider profits$25. Gambler gets $5 fp (for no real work and so addicted any edge counts)

Thats how it went down before. I dont know if they still hand out the pinless cards on the asian bus lines or not

EDIT: I know $5 fp doesnt sound like much but the purchasers werent just buying one. They would often purchase from multiple people on each bus

Just 20 transactions and you have $900 fp for $800. It starts to add up especially back when VP and VBJ were accepting freeplay

Quote: darkoz

Lol try the Sands in Pa. Not AC or queens

Bus rider pays $15 in flushing queens

90 minutes later arrives Sands in Pa. Handed $45 freeplay (they dont do food anymore unless they went back to that)

Rider sells $45 fp (on generic players card no pin required) to local gambler for $40.

Rider profits$25. Gambler gets $5 fp (for no real work and so addicted any edge counts)

Thats how it went down before. I dont know if they still hand out the pinless cards on the asian bus lines or not

EDIT: I know $5 fp doesnt sound like much but the purchasers werent just buying one. They would often purchase from multiple people on each bus

Just 20 transactions and you have $900 fp for $800. It starts to add up especially back when VP and VBJ were accepting freeplay

They still give the Asian busses pinless card for the FP. FP can still be used on VP and VBJ (GK).

Seems like a simple solution to fix the Asians from loitering all over the floor looking for abandoned credits and bathing in the bathrooms - give them the cards that require PINs like they do for all the non-Asian busses. What a thought! The Sands has become a joke locally and they need to do something to fix their reputation.

Quote: Jmarch79

They still give the Asian busses pinless card for the FP. FP can still be used on VP and VBJ (GK).

Seems like a simple solution to fix the Asians from loitering all over the floor looking for abandoned credits and bathing in the bathrooms - give them the cards that require PINs like they do for all the non-Asian busses. What a thought! The Sands has become a joke locally and they need to do something to fix their reputation.

Why would asian bus lines from NYC get pinless generic fp requiring no presentation of ID or customer tracking and no one else?

Why would they keep offering such a valuable offer when its only atttracting homeless who dont play? Even after a news article 3 years ago spelled it all out for them?

Heres my theory: the Sands promised jts investors a certain guaranteed head count from NYC. There are I believe still some expansion plans in their model

They dont care how they achieve the head count. They turn their heads to this fp abuse because it satisfies the head count to higher ups that they promised a minimum of nyc foot traffic

1. your theory sounds logical. 2. Casino does not like empty floor.