AC bus warning 7/28/18
July 28th, 2018 at 8:57:23 AM
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Here we go again
10 am, 10:30, 11, 11:30, and now 12 noon
No busses
Multiple lines
Chaos
10 am, 10:30, 11, 11:30, and now 12 noon
No busses
Multiple lines
Chaos
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 28th, 2018 at 9:11:19 AM
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Might be time for a new angle. I can't imagine dealing with that. So depressing. Are all those people going to Atlantic City?
July 28th, 2018 at 9:16:41 AM
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Quote: MaxPenMight be time for a new angle. I can't imagine dealing with that. So depressing. Are all those people going to Atlantic City?
Yes
Thats just the ac people
Greyhound not saying anything
Rumor now is drivers staging surprise strike
When 5 drivers in a row dont show up i guess that might qualify
But for now its just rumor amongst the patrons
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 28th, 2018 at 9:24:25 AM
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Do they still have a train to AC?
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
July 28th, 2018 at 9:38:20 AM
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Quote: billryanDo they still have a train to AC?
Yes n no
Have to switch at trenton for Philly. Then philly for ac
90 minutes longer than bus with connections
Costs more
No casino bonus
Its an option if i had mucho fp i had to make but bus is preferable
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 28th, 2018 at 9:40:21 AM
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Update:
I am on a bus
Left behind LOTS of people. Waited since 10am so made it on first bus to show up
No explanation given for delay
I am on a bus
Left behind LOTS of people. Waited since 10am so made it on first bus to show up
No explanation given for delay
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 28th, 2018 at 9:41:09 AM
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For awhile there was a direct train on weekends. I never took it as I always went down on Mondays.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
July 28th, 2018 at 9:42:31 AM
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Honestly i was about to abandon the fp waiting for me
Several hundred so no biggie but still worth the trip under nominal conditions
My girlfriend wanted to go so bad she rubbed my head into submission
Lets hope she doesnt gamble away all my winnings today lol
Several hundred so no biggie but still worth the trip under nominal conditions
My girlfriend wanted to go so bad she rubbed my head into submission
Lets hope she doesnt gamble away all my winnings today lol
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 28th, 2018 at 9:45:00 AM
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Im starting to think maxpens helicopter idea wasnt so bad now lol
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 28th, 2018 at 9:51:36 AM
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Do they let white people onto those Chinatown bus junkets?
July 28th, 2018 at 9:57:05 AM
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Quote: TigerWuDo they let white people onto those Chinatown bus junkets?
Yea anybody can get on those
After today i might be looking into it
But greyhound schedule is flexible for returning from ac. Hate to give that up but this makes 2nd time they had this crazy delay in a few weeks. (That im aware of. Something tells me its happening a lot)
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 28th, 2018 at 9:59:39 AM
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Quote: billryanFor awhile there was a direct train on weekends. I never took it as I always went down on Mondays.
Im unaware of that
Will have to check
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 28th, 2018 at 10:08:10 AM
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 28th, 2018 at 10:16:23 AM
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I'm thinking it would be better to work in a toll booth huffing exhaust fumes all day than AP on the east coast. At least then you don't have to wear a mask.
July 28th, 2018 at 10:17:00 AM
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Quote: darkozIm unaware of that
Will have to check
It was nicknamed ACE- Atlantic City Express.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
July 28th, 2018 at 10:20:58 AM
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First World problems!
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July 28th, 2018 at 10:43:05 AM
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Quote: MaxPenI'm thinking it would be better to work in a toll booth huffing exhaust fumes all day than AP on the east coast. At least then you don't have to wear a mask.
Hey that was a really good one
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 28th, 2018 at 12:28:09 PM
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Quote: TigerWuDo they let white people onto those Chinatown bus junkets?
Bruh y'all stole micheal Jackson, don't take our busses
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July 28th, 2018 at 12:35:22 PM
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Quote: djatcBruh y'all stole micheal Jackson, don't take our busses
My experience with the chinatown buses is they seat the non-asians in the back of the bus
No joke
The whites didnt seem to care but black people were very offended on one trip lol
Many years ago this was
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 28th, 2018 at 12:43:11 PM
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Quote: darkozMy experience with the chinatown buses is they seat the non-asians in the back of the bus
No joke
Haha..... when I was a kid riding the bus to school, the back was seriously where the black kids hung out. Sometimes I would sit back there with them and play spades.
The back of the school bus was the place to be for maximum privacy!
July 28th, 2018 at 2:27:38 PM
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ROFLMAO
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
July 28th, 2018 at 3:47:48 PM
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Quote: billryanIt was nicknamed ACE- Atlantic City Express.
The ACES train was nice with brand new cars... You still had to go all the way over to North Philly before switching to the Atlantic city line tracks, but it was a much better experience than the the buses.
July 28th, 2018 at 3:50:17 PM
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Quote: DutyfreeHmmm. So the most feared mask wearing ap team leader in the United States. Brings his gf to the bus terminal for 3 hours then takes bus 6 hours round trip for a couple hundred dollars that she may just gambleaway
How do you not buy a car and drive
Seems insane to anyone
I would first need to learn how to drive
It makes sense to NYers
I understand guns and cars for the rest of the country
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 28th, 2018 at 3:53:39 PM
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I can now state my gf got very lucky
Won $1000 playing slots and not even APing
Since i bankrolled her we split the profits
I admit though I was prepared for this to have a lousier result
BTW shes my new gf. It usually takes awhile before i trust enough to divulge some barebones secrets (enough for her to comprehend i make my living this way) and enough time to get the gambling addiction out of their blood
Won $1000 playing slots and not even APing
Since i bankrolled her we split the profits
I admit though I was prepared for this to have a lousier result
BTW shes my new gf. It usually takes awhile before i trust enough to divulge some barebones secrets (enough for her to comprehend i make my living this way) and enough time to get the gambling addiction out of their blood
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 28th, 2018 at 4:02:41 PM
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I used to live in NYC and hated driving anywhere. Being a car owner sucks in that city. Darkoz is definitely APing with this whole bus angle.
EDIT: Who's this new Dutyfree guy with no post history that's already taunting established members?
EDIT: Who's this new Dutyfree guy with no post history that's already taunting established members?
July 28th, 2018 at 4:03:57 PM
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Quote: TigerWuI used to live in NYC and hated driving anywhere. Being a car owner sucks in that city. Darkoz is definitely APing with this whole bus angle.
Thank you
(I think)
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 28th, 2018 at 4:18:50 PM
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Quote: TigerWuI used to live in NYC and hated driving anywhere. Being a car owner sucks in that city. Darkoz is definitely APing with this whole bus angle.
EDIT: Who's this new Dutyfree guy with no post history that's already taunting established members?
Probably calls himself the opposite of LOSE
But fails at that as well
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 28th, 2018 at 5:16:33 PM
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Tolls in NY/ NJ are killer. It costs about $25 to go from Long Island to NJ, then you have a bunch of little tolls before getting to AC and paying to park. Back when I was a regular bus stripper, Greyhound was the way to go. Occasionally, the casino bonus paid for the trip.
When Resorts and the Trop were under construction, their offers were great.
Unless there is a fire or accident on the Garden St. Parkway, the bus is the right play. Once got all screwed up when a National Guard jet met an emergency landing and forced us off in the middle of nowhere. Another time a brush fire sent us all the way to Philadelphia to get the Turnpike.
When Resorts and the Trop were under construction, their offers were great.
Unless there is a fire or accident on the Garden St. Parkway, the bus is the right play. Once got all screwed up when a National Guard jet met an emergency landing and forced us off in the middle of nowhere. Another time a brush fire sent us all the way to Philadelphia to get the Turnpike.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
July 30th, 2018 at 3:37:11 AM
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The secret bus driver strike continues. I like how Greyhound management continues to play dumb and won't even issues refunds. It's going on right now as you can see from Tweet at 5:24am Monday morning.
Candace McCowan, Eyewitness News
Updated 52 mins ago
NEW YORK (WABC) -- There are mounting frustrations at the Port Authority Bus Terminal.
Hundreds of people were stranded overnight after Greyhound bus drivers failed to show up.
Eyewitness News has put in calls to Greyhound trying to get answers like the many people who are waiting downstairs
http://abc7ny.com/traffic/greyhound-drivers-strand-passengers-at-port-authority/3847574/
Candace McCowan
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Statement from @GreyhoundBus says “We are currently experiencing delays at the Port Authority as we wait for drivers to become available once they complete their federally mandated rest.” @ABC7NY
5:24 AM - Jul 30, 2018 · Manhattan, NY
Candace McCowan, Eyewitness News
Updated 52 mins ago
NEW YORK (WABC) -- There are mounting frustrations at the Port Authority Bus Terminal.
Hundreds of people were stranded overnight after Greyhound bus drivers failed to show up.
Eyewitness News has put in calls to Greyhound trying to get answers like the many people who are waiting downstairs
http://abc7ny.com/traffic/greyhound-drivers-strand-passengers-at-port-authority/3847574/
Candace McCowan
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Statement from @GreyhoundBus says “We are currently experiencing delays at the Port Authority as we wait for drivers to become available once they complete their federally mandated rest.” @ABC7NY
5:24 AM - Jul 30, 2018 · Manhattan, NY
July 30th, 2018 at 6:13:52 AM
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Isnt the term for a soft walkout a wildcat strike?
An unsanctioned union uninvolved strike?
An unsanctioned union uninvolved strike?
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 30th, 2018 at 7:14:15 AM
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Quote: darkozIsnt the term for a soft walkout a wildcat strike?
An unsanctioned union uninvolved strike?
"Once they complete their federally mandated rest" sounds like "work to rule" to me and the reporter is covering for them. I have done absolutely no research on this outside of reading the thread.
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July 30th, 2018 at 7:40:38 AM
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Quote: ahiromu"Once they complete their federally mandated rest" sounds like "work to rule" to me and the reporter is covering for them. I have done absolutely no research on this outside of reading the thread.
Im sure thats the excuse they are giving
Im certain the union isnt allowing greyhound to break federally mandated rest requirements.
When doing a wildcat strike it is in their best interest to give the best excuse they can or face sanctions
Im certain the workers feel slighted over something. I just doubt its over rest requirements
EDIT: Greyhound is most definitely unionized. No way thats a national right to work corporation
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
July 30th, 2018 at 8:00:07 AM
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They should tell people the truth. How would you like to park your car at the Mt Laurel, NJ Greyhound depot off 295 and Rt 73, take a bus to NY and then when you want to come home from a day of work or shopping you are stranded at the Port Authority. Greyhound isn't giving refunds. Your alternative is take NJ Transit to Trenton and spend $35-$45 to pay for Uber or Lyft to get you back to Mt Laurel which is about a 35-40 minute drive. The train ticket and Uber would cost you about $55-$65 plus the Greyhound return ticket which you spent $20 on. I have no idea if Greyhound buses are running on time to NY from either Mt Laurel or Philadelphia. You are guaranteed nothing with Greyhound. There is a big gap at Mt Laurel after 8am. There is a 10:30am bus and then a 12:30pm bus. You could have a ticket for the 8am bus, be at the end of the line and then told all the seats are taken. This could happen because people with tickets for earlier buses showed up late. They simply stand in line for the 8am bus. It's first come, first served. Greyhound could solve this problem. Don't over sell the buses like the airlines do. The time on your ticket only guarantees you seat for that time. Everyone who has a ticket for a particular time must be served first. After they are seated and there are open seats you would have a chance. You shouldn't have to wait in line ahead of time at the Port Authority. It's so stupid. People at Mt Laurel put their bags on the pavement reserving their seat in line. It shouldn't be necessary. Just honor assigned time first.
July 30th, 2018 at 9:29:07 AM
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Quote: darkozIsnt the term for a soft walkout a wildcat strike?
An unsanctioned union uninvolved strike?
It's very common in the bus business to shave DOT service hours, and most of the time the drivers go along with the abuse.
If Greyhound can't find drivers on time now, they have tried to run their schedule with too few commercial drivers.
All the drivers ever have to do to effect a slowdown there is strict compliance with DOT regulations when the employers leave themselves few options .
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July 30th, 2018 at 2:23:02 PM
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Quote: billryanBack when I was a regular bus stripper, ......
I sure hope that's a typo. I've got this very disturbing image in my head now.
My goal of being well informed conflicts with my goal of remaining sane.
July 30th, 2018 at 2:49:18 PM
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Quote: TumblingBonesI sure hope that's a typo. I've got this very disturbing image in my head now.
What happens on Greyhound, stays on Greyhound.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
September 17th, 2018 at 7:48:57 PM
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Seems to be the trend with Bus companies in North Jersey having "issues" with their daily runs to AC. First Academy suspended service to AC a year ago and now the alternative with Saddle River Bus Tours has cancelled afternoon & evening service on Monday & Tuesday. They also constantly have cancellations for the 6 50 PM bus to AC during the week.
From what I hear from drivers is they are paid per run(there and back) so if they can't find someone to accept the job, they call the next driver until they get someone or they cancel it and tell the passengers Hours after they purchased their ticket and waited for the bus.
So in most cases, they do try to find a last minute driver, even if they have to outsource to another company like Lakeland or Transbridge. But in most cases, the drivers are less motivated.
I started going to Sands PA via Raritan Valley Bus line, which has never had ONE cancellation even in bad weather conditions and the owner of the company even shows up randomly to give out free tickets to the weekend riders. If only Greyhound, Academy or Saddle River Bus Companies used this kind of rewards system.
From what I hear from drivers is they are paid per run(there and back) so if they can't find someone to accept the job, they call the next driver until they get someone or they cancel it and tell the passengers Hours after they purchased their ticket and waited for the bus.
So in most cases, they do try to find a last minute driver, even if they have to outsource to another company like Lakeland or Transbridge. But in most cases, the drivers are less motivated.
I started going to Sands PA via Raritan Valley Bus line, which has never had ONE cancellation even in bad weather conditions and the owner of the company even shows up randomly to give out free tickets to the weekend riders. If only Greyhound, Academy or Saddle River Bus Companies used this kind of rewards system.
September 17th, 2018 at 7:58:03 PM
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We should refer to the best bus rider on the east coast.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
September 18th, 2018 at 3:08:15 AM
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Quote: BedWetterBetter
I started going to Sands PA via Raritan Valley Bus line, which has never had ONE cancellation even in bad weather conditions and the owner of the company even shows up randomly to give out free tickets to the weekend riders. If only Greyhound, Academy or Saddle River Bus Companies used this kind of rewards system.
Seems to be a variety of factors involved but the net result is that although these day tripping bus riders are not whales, there is an incentive for them to do 'Sands, PA' rather than a variety of casinos in Atlantic City, NJ. Particularly during inclement weather I'd think the casino would be out there with a bunch of certificates for 'free hot coffee' or something.
Don't the casinos in AC realize they need players even the day-tripping "whales" on those buses?
Perhaps this is an opportunity for a van-pooling service of reliable drivers at reasonable prices?
September 18th, 2018 at 4:13:05 AM
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Quote: FleaStiffSeems to be a variety of factors involved but the net result is that although these day tripping bus riders are not whales, there is an incentive for them to do 'Sands, PA' rather than a variety of casinos in Atlantic City, NJ. Particularly during inclement weather I'd think the casino would be out there with a bunch of certificates for 'free hot coffee' or something.
Don't the casinos in AC realize they need players even the day-tripping "whales" on those buses?
Perhaps this is an opportunity for a van-pooling service of reliable drivers at reasonable prices?
The incentive is $15 bus ticket for $45 freeplay vs atlantic city $45 bua ticket for $25 freeplay
At least that was the Sands deal 5 years ago. Been 5 years since I did the Sands bus hustle
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
September 18th, 2018 at 7:59:28 AM
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SZpent 6 hours on bus for net $30 free play?? Is it worth it?
September 18th, 2018 at 8:09:01 AM
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Nathan spends probably 30 mins each direction for $5 FP... it’s all in the eye of the beholder I guess.
The casino downtown where I live gave me $10 FP last summer. It wasn’t worth 20 mins of driving each way and trying to find parking which is a bitch in downtown all for $9 of value. My time is worth more than that.
The casino downtown where I live gave me $10 FP last summer. It wasn’t worth 20 mins of driving each way and trying to find parking which is a bitch in downtown all for $9 of value. My time is worth more than that.
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September 18th, 2018 at 8:10:26 AM
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They're not taking the bus only to use FP and wait to go home. It's just icing on the cake and more economical than driving, no tolls, no gas, no wear and tear. I took buses to Atlantic City, wasn't that bad, besides you cannot smoke until breaks of course. To get an offer, you have to leave from a city on Greyhound's list. Had a problem the first time booking two one ways, because it was cheaper, didn't get free play. Of course both the casino and the bus company claimed it was the other that was responsible for giving the free play.Quote: speedycrapSZpent 6 hours on bus for net $30 free play?? Is it worth it?
I am a robot.
September 18th, 2018 at 9:04:11 AM
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Quote: speedycrapSZpent 6 hours on bus for net $30 free play?? Is it worth it?
Its only 90 minutes from nyc to sands. So net $30 is about minimum wage
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
September 18th, 2018 at 9:52:51 AM
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Quote: darkozIts only 90 minutes from nyc to sands. So net $30 is about minimum wage
This brings up a good point. How much time are you willing to devote to pick a $X amount of freeplay?
There is a casino about 90 minutes from me that offers about $200 a week in free play. I generally do not pick it up because it would require a 3.5 hour time commitment and about $15 in gas. When the offers exceed $300 I almost always go.
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September 18th, 2018 at 11:37:25 AM
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Quote: DRichThis brings up a good point. How much time are you willing to devote to pick a $X amount of freeplay?
There is a casino about 90 minutes from me that offers about $200 a week in free play. I generally do not pick it up because it would require a 3.5 hour time commitment and about $15 in gas. When the offers exceed $300 I almost always go.
So about $52/hour? How is that not worth it?
I’ve seen several people here state that a play worth $50/hr is not worth their time.
Maybe I’m just poor, but $50/hr is the equivalent to a $104k salary.
September 18th, 2018 at 11:56:04 AM
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Quote: speedycrapSZpent 6 hours on bus for net $30 free play?? Is it worth it?
Make it up with volume.
1)Start an adult day care, charging $25 a day.
2) Take your charges on a field trip.
3)collect an additional $30 from the Sands bonus.
Get ten people and you clear $550 a day.
Once up and running, it's a $200,000 a year operation with very little overhead.
Nothing to sneeze at, with lots of room to expand.
The next step is to find a way to monetize the five hours spent on the bus. A portable blood lab, maybe.
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September 18th, 2018 at 1:03:40 PM
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Quote: billryanMake it up with volume.
1)Start an adult day care, charging $25 a day.
2) Take your charges on a field trip.
3)collect an additional $30 from the Sands bonus.
Get ten people and you clear $550 a day.
Once up and running, it's a $200,000 a year operation with very little overhead.
Nothing to sneeze at, with lots of room to expand.
The next step is to find a way to monetize the five hours spent on the bus. A portable blood lab, maybe.
Dont assume even the most successful AP is going to work 365 days a year
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
September 18th, 2018 at 2:04:42 PM
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Quote: darkozDont assume even the most successful AP is going to work 365 days a year
That's why we have henchmen, minions and underlings.
I'd try and squeeze two roundtrips a day out of them.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
September 18th, 2018 at 2:25:06 PM
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Ask him what his normal wage is. The D stands for damn.Quote: gamerfreakSo about $52/hour? How is that not worth it?
I’ve seen several people here state that a play worth $50/hr is not worth their time.
Maybe I’m just poor, but $50/hr is the equivalent to a $104k salary.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
