Revel Sold

Well since we're trying to get kinda sorta almost correct about the name of the joint, like we'd actually been there in an almost halfway sober condition one day or sumpin'...

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I loooooove going to AC in the off season. I feel like I have Ceasar’s Palace to myself.

There is no Palace in AC. It's just Caesar's.

Right. That's getting a little warmer. A couple of degrees warmer. But. Not quite there yet.

There's also no Ceasar or Ceasar's or even Caesar's either. It is Caesars. C-A-E-S-A-R-S. That's plural, not possessive; no apostrophe. It is not a place named as belonging to any individual Caesar, it is intended to be a place of many Caesars. Many who are Caesar, but not a palace. Spelled with an "a" followed by an "e" with no apostrophe. And there's no palace in New Jersey for all those little Caesars; that's in Las Vegas.

Palace
Cesar
Ceasar
Ceasar's
Caesar's

--> Caesars <---

http://www.nj.com/atlantic/index.ssf/2018/04/heres_how_the_former_revel_casino_will_change_befo.html

"When it opens this summer (a date has not yet been set), guests will be able to smoke, eat at a buffet, take bus trips to the resort and find their way around the place much easier.

The vertiginous "escalator to heaven" at the main entrance will now have glass safety panels on either side; a two-night stay will no longer be required; a wall blocking the casino off from easy Boardwalk access is being replaced by stairs welcoming foot traffic; the casino will offer more things for kids and families to do; and gamblers of all levels will be welcomed.

The popular HQ outdoor pool and dance club will return, and Topgolf will offer virtual golf and other sports.

Actor and musician Mark Wahlberg will have a large presence at Ocean Resort, opening his Wahlburgers burger restaurant, and also will open a bar called "Entourage," Deifik said.

Kids will enjoy a large candy store, as well as "Cereal Town" an eatery "where you can go and have cereal for dinner, every kind of cereal from around the globe," Deifik said.

I am really glad they are adding safety panels to that escalator. That thing was legitimately scary. Not scary like you know better and will be fine. But scary as in it was poorly designed and you might actually fall.

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I am really glad they are adding safety panels to that escalator. That thing was legitimately scary. Not scary like you know better and will be fine. But scary as in it was poorly designed and you might actually fall.

I have a problem with heights and it freaked me out, completely agree.

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I am really glad they are adding safety panels to that escalator. That thing was legitimately scary. Not scary like you know better and will be fine. But scary as in it was poorly designed and you might actually fall.

It looks like at least one person was injured on them:
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2013/05/revel_casino_fall_lawsuit.html

I’m looking at photos of the escalators and I can’t tell what made them dangerous?

I was too young to gamble when the Revel opened so I have never been there.

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It looks like at least one person was injured on them:
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2013/05/revel_casino_fall_lawsuit.html

I’m looking at photos of the escalators and I can’t tell what made them dangerous?

I was too young to gamble when the Revel opened so I have never been there.

It was awesome. It's the only casino I have ever been impressed with.

I never understood the fear of the escalator. What's the difference if it is 20 feet tall or 50 feet tall? Falling from either is going to suck. Also most people are over 21, shouldn't you know better than to not hang off the side.

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Well since we're trying to get kinda sorta almost correct about the name of the joint, like we'd actually been there in an almost halfway sober condition one day or sumpin'...

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Quote: gamerfreak

I loooooove going to AC in the off season. I feel like I have Ceasar’s Palace to myself.

There is no Palace in AC. It's just Caesar's.

Right. That's getting a little warmer. A couple of degrees warmer. But. Not quite there yet.

There's also no Ceasar or Ceasar's or even Caesar's either. It is Caesars. C-A-E-S-A-R-S. That's plural, not possessive; no apostrophe. It is not a place named as belonging to any individual Caesar, it is intended to be a place of many Caesars. Many who are Caesar, but not a palace. Spelled with an "a" followed by an "e" with no apostrophe. And there's no palace in New Jersey for all those little Caesars; that's in Las Vegas.

Palace
Cesar
Ceasar
Ceasar's
Caesar's

--> Caesars <---

And while we're at it, I would like to clarify something about Caesars Palace, Las Vegas:

There are two different stories about how Caesars Palace happend to be named without an apostrophe. One is, that when the signage for Caesars Palace was made the apostrophe was omitted somehow, and Jay Sarno just let it go because it was too close to the casino opening on August 5, 1966 to correct the issue. The second version as to how the apostrophe was omitted is that Jay Sarno felt that everybody that came to Caesars Palace was a Caesar, and this is why there is no apostrophe. But if this version of the story is true then it should be called Caesars' Palace (with an apostrophe after the s).

By the way, from what I know, it is never been shown conclusively which of the two versions of the missing apostrophe story is true.

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...<SNIP>...There are two different stories about how Caesars Palace happend to be named without an apostrophe. One is, that when the signage for Caesars Palace was made the apostrophe was omitted somehow, and Jay Sarno just let it go because it was too close to the casino opening on August 5, 1966 to correct the issue. The second version as to how the apostrophe was omitted is that Jay Sarno felt that everybody that came to Caesars Palace was a Caesar, and this is why there is no apostrophe. But if this version of the story is true then it should be called Caesars' Palace (with an apostrophe after the s).

By the way, from what I know, it is never been shown conclusively which of the two versions of the missing apostrophe story is true.

This is the first time I've heard the other version, first one above, in which it was accidental. But I do find it easily believable, and I wouldn't be too surprised if the version I know of has to do with a story cooked up to explain something away, maybe running out of punctuation funding after blowing all that money buying vowels. It is consistent with how an awful lot of things got (half-assed) done in the course of the creation of the Las Vegas Strip. The construction of the Stratosphere tower, with more than a little incompetence involved, including the 'feet' at the base supporting that tower not getting put where they're supposed to be, comes readily to mind as just one example among many.

But then, in the case of the Crib for a bunch of Caesars - Version #2 that I'm more familiar with, I don't necessarily agree with the conclusion that there should've then been an apostrophe added in the plural form (s') indicating possession of the alleged "Palace" at Flamingo & LVB by all those grubby little supposed Caesars that are to be in it. Anymore than a nuthouse known as a loony bin needs to be nut's or nuts' house or a loony's bin indicating that the inmates are in charge of the asylum, or say if a den of thieves was appropriately named Thieves Den that it must necessarily become either Thief's or Thieves' Den - maybe the thieves didn't either buy the joint or steal it fair & square, but it is rented out for use by thieves. Or nuts, or a bunch of wannabe Caesars for about as long as their money lasts.

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This is the first time I've heard the other version, first one above, in which it was accidental. But I do find it easily believable, and I wouldn't be too surprised if the version I know of has to do with a story cooked up to explain something away, maybe running out of punctuation funding after blowing all that money buying vowels. It is consistent with how an awful lot of things got (half-assed) done in the course of the creation of the Las Vegas Strip. The construction of the Stratosphere tower, with more than a little incompetence involved, including the 'feet' at the base supporting that tower not getting put where they're supposed to be, comes readily to mind as just one example among many.

But then, in the case of the Crib for a bunch of Caesars - Version #2 that I'm more familiar with, I don't necessarily agree with the conclusion that there should've then been an apostrophe added in the plural form (s') indicating possession of the alleged "Palace" at Flamingo & LVB by all those grubby little supposed Caesars that are to be in it. Anymore than a nuthouse known as a loony bin needs to be nut's or nuts' house or a loony's bin indicating that the inmates are in charge of the asylum, or say if a den of thieves was appropriately named Thieves Den that it must necessarily become either Thief's or Thieves' Den - maybe the thieves didn't either buy the joint or steal it fair & square, but it is rented out for use by thieves. Or nuts, or a bunch of wannabe Caesars for about as long as their money lasts.

Thieves den is more of a figure of speech. But if there was a restaurant, say, with that name then it would be Thieves' Den. Or a restaurant could be named Thief's Den if it referred to a lone individual.

A girlfriend I once had whose sister had a Phd in English is the one who set me straight on the Caesars Palace missing apostrophe. She could be mistaken, but I don't think so.

She is likely mistaken. Plural nouns are often not intended to be possessive; she's made an assumption.

But whether she is or isn't mistaken about what it ought to be named, the name of the place is what it is. And that fact remains, no matter what any of us thinks of it, that the name of the place is, and will continue to be, legally, formally, in documents, on company letterhead, on paychecks, and every which way, as well as informally in common daily practice, in fact: Caesars Palace. Or Caesars if you are slumming it by vacationing in New Jersey, with my sincere condolences.

Because a name is what something has been named, without regard to what it should be named. Even when it is a " Hi I'm Luvli with an 'i' and I'll be your server today" which should be grounds for having someone, probably both Luvli with an "i" and her parents, shot, no matter what credentials their sister has procured. But isn't.

Not that it matters or anything.

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She is likely mistaken. Plural nouns are often not intended to be possessive; she's made an assumption.

But "Caesars Palace" is possessive. Even Jay Sarno communicated that (if his version of the story is correct--and even if it's not).

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But "Caesars Palace" is possessive. Even Jay Sarno communicated that (if his version of the story is correct--and even if it's not).

I thought you cant have the pluralized apostraphe after a plural s

Caesar' Palace not Caesars' Palace

Otherwise its redundant.

Oh my, time for me to bail; so take it from here 'cause it's all yours now Mr. John.

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I thought you cant have the pluralized apostraphe after a plural s

Caesar' Palace not Caesars' Palace

Otherwise its redundant.

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This is the first time I've heard the other version, first one above, in which it was accidental. But I do find it easily believable, and I wouldn't be too surprised if the version I know of has to do with a story cooked up to explain something away, maybe running out of punctuation funding after blowing all that money buying vowels.

That one's a fairly common joke; I've heard it by at least three comedians who I got free tickets for. The most recent one was over at The D, which... yeah, that place deserves it. "Come on, you were expecting props? They couldn't even afford a name here; it's just an article."

It's just better that it was kept at Caesars instead of Caesar's or Caesars' Palace. How would they have named the one in Atlantic City without the Palace? Just Caesar?

I wish the Caesars Palace (in vegas) had a better diamond lounge and perhaps a 7-stars lounge like AC. Otherwise, it's pretty much a dump with a little bit of lipstick on it. IMO the checking lobby and the buffet are the only things appealing about Caesars Palace.

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It looks like at least one person was injured on them:

I’m looking at photos of the escalators and I can’t tell what made them dangerous?

I was too young to gamble when the Revel opened so I have never been there.

They are unusually long and the upper ones are suspended multiple stories high above the lobby level with no physical support under each one of them. Add to that the fact that there are clearly no unusual measures built in to protect against someone going over the edge and you had something that made a lot of people uneasy.

Just putting up glass protectors might make them literally safer but I wouldn't be surprised if some people still find them psychologically challenging.

Trying to figure out where HR and Ocean are finding enough quality employees to open. Many left the area when the casinos closed and Unemployment isn’t high. So they are either getting less than ideal employees, are stealing them from other casinos or are importing them.

AC in 2 years will be interesting to see who is still standing.

Probably will be the same, there are always people in AC, they're just not all gambling.

Buffet lines are pretty long at CET, Borgata, Harrahs, & Trop. Concerts are always packed with tourists and the IMAX theatre has a steady flow of patrons seeing the newest Super hero flick.

And this has been from just November until now, perhaps the summer crowd will increase tourism and commerce in AC?

The outlet malls still give the town plenty of outside business and if the casinos would wise up and re-up on offers like Mystery Multipliers, New & Inactive member bonuses and even deal out some comp rooms for second & third tier rating players, it could get the long time holdouts back. But that's a big IF!

Here's an AP article talking about the resurgence and risks involved in AC this Summer... One interesting note that I hadn't seen before is the idea that the Showboat hotel owners are thinking of adding a casino.

https://apnews.com/3bcd7abbbaa04792863c6d31aac1f8f8

William Hill will be the sports book operator at the Revel / Ocean Resort...

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/ocean-resort-casino-revel-sports-betting-william-hill-us-monmouth-park-20180529.html

"The plan is for a 7,500-square-foot sportsbook at Ocean Resort that will be in the “heart of the casino’s gaming floor,” according to a release from William Hill. By comparison, the sportsbook at the Bellagio in Las Vegas, is 5,600 square feet, a decent size compared with many along the Vegas Strip."

Forgive me if it's some place back..I thought I'd kept up...My question is one of curiosity...Did the guy know as "Glenn S..." come out of this deal okay as in made money? He was always laughed at in the media and even on many forums, but did he make money on his Revel investment? Thanks.

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Forgive me if it's some place back..I thought I'd kept up...My question is one of curiosity...Did the guy know as "Glenn S..." come out of this deal okay as in made money? He was always laughed at in the media and even on many forums, but did he make money on his Revel investment? Thanks.

Yes, he made money. On another note, he should have been laughed at.

Bought the property for $82MM, another $30MM for the power plant. He owned the property for 33 months, figure another million a month in expenses...he came out approximately $55MM to the good.

Not bad for a whack job.

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Yes, he made money. On another note, he should have been laughed at.

Bought the property for $82MM, another $30MM for the power plant. He owned the property for 33 months, figure another million a month in expenses...he came out approximately $55MM to the good.

Not bad for a whack job.

Which is exactly how he became as rich as he is. Made the deals no on else wanted, made crazy statements and kept himself in the media eye.

Who says America isn't the land of opportunity?

Quote: Boz

Which is exactly how he became as rich as he is. Made the deals no on else wanted, made crazy statements and kept himself in the media eye.

Who says America isn't the land of opportunity?

Spot on. Pretty impressive if you ask me.