Where Have You Gone Atlantic City
March 23rd, 2015 at 12:35:05 PM
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Great article. http://www.nj.com/inside-jersey/index.ssf/2015/03/where_have_you_gone_atlantic_city.html
Your thoughts???
Your thoughts???
March 23rd, 2015 at 1:32:50 PM
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It was a good article that describes A.C. both past and present.
Were it fails IMHO is were most of these articles fall short. They just don't talk about why people don't want to live there. Yes the corner grocer getting robbed 1/2 dozen times in two years is a clue.
Atlantic City is a hood plain and simple. It has been a hood for 50 years or so after the White Flight of the 50's and 60's.
Do I frequent A.C? Absolutely it's close by. But I would never venture down those side streets at night. Nor will you see me strolling a deserted boardwalk late at night and I am far from what the local thugs would consider easy prey.
Until someone has the intestinal fortitude to clear out the blighted troubled areas, A.C. will remain a 2nd class destination.
IMHO it really is that simple. Go ahead open a Bass Pro Shop and build more convention space. But until the real problem is addressed I would expect little change any time soon.
Were it fails IMHO is were most of these articles fall short. They just don't talk about why people don't want to live there. Yes the corner grocer getting robbed 1/2 dozen times in two years is a clue.
Atlantic City is a hood plain and simple. It has been a hood for 50 years or so after the White Flight of the 50's and 60's.
Do I frequent A.C? Absolutely it's close by. But I would never venture down those side streets at night. Nor will you see me strolling a deserted boardwalk late at night and I am far from what the local thugs would consider easy prey.
Until someone has the intestinal fortitude to clear out the blighted troubled areas, A.C. will remain a 2nd class destination.
IMHO it really is that simple. Go ahead open a Bass Pro Shop and build more convention space. But until the real problem is addressed I would expect little change any time soon.
March 23rd, 2015 at 2:06:00 PM
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I thought the article was very poignant. I live in a beach community only 45 minutes away from Atlantic City. Our beach isn't nearly as nice as Atlantic City's (smaller with not great waves) and yet the housing prices in my community are astronomical. I have always wondered how a community with a beautiful beach could rot away. Asbury Park was in the same condition but is slowly turning around. No, I don't have any suggestions about how to fix this. But it seems that throwing money at the problem isn't doing it.
I give this post an hour. Tee Hee!
March 23rd, 2015 at 2:36:46 PM
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Most public employees would be on welfare or in prison if it weren't for friends getting them "jobs". The casino owners take advantage of the simple minded local populace while the city rots. It's s ghetto, sad but true. Hopefully Stockton university can start to turn the tide around. AC does have the best Boardwalk and beach in New Jersey in my opinion.
The local mindset here is hard to describe but it certainly isn't right.
The local mindset here is hard to describe but it certainly isn't right.
March 23rd, 2015 at 3:07:25 PM
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Here is a police call list from Tropicana and Taj
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2011/11/23/atlantic-city-undercover-analyzing-casino-crime/
I have nothing but praise for the locals. Watch as this family removes computer equipment from a strangers car.
Surely they were putting it in a safer place right? I mean nobody steals stuff with the help of young children and a baby on their hip right?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4ef_1286649164
And these fine gentlemen giving this young man street fighting lessons, so very generous with their time!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BQYlrGK8ho
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2011/11/23/atlantic-city-undercover-analyzing-casino-crime/
I have nothing but praise for the locals. Watch as this family removes computer equipment from a strangers car.
Surely they were putting it in a safer place right? I mean nobody steals stuff with the help of young children and a baby on their hip right?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4ef_1286649164
And these fine gentlemen giving this young man street fighting lessons, so very generous with their time!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BQYlrGK8ho
March 23rd, 2015 at 3:07:32 PM
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Here is a police call list from Tropicana and Taj
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2011/11/23/atlantic-city-undercover-analyzing-casino-crime/
I have nothing but praise for the locals. Watch as this family removes computer equipment from a strangers car.
Surely they were putting it in a safer place right? I mean nobody steals stuff with the help of young children and a baby on their hip right?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4ef_1286649164
And these fine gentlemen giving this young man street fighting lessons, so very generous with their time!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BQYlrGK8ho
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2011/11/23/atlantic-city-undercover-analyzing-casino-crime/
I have nothing but praise for the locals. Watch as this family removes computer equipment from a strangers car.
Surely they were putting it in a safer place right? I mean nobody steals stuff with the help of young children and a baby on their hip right?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4ef_1286649164
And these fine gentlemen giving this young man street fighting lessons, so very generous with their time!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BQYlrGK8ho
March 23rd, 2015 at 3:07:32 PM
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Here is a police call list from Tropicana and Taj
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2011/11/23/atlantic-city-undercover-analyzing-casino-crime/
I have nothing but praise for the locals. Watch as this family removes computer equipment from a strangers car.
Surely they were putting it in a safer place right? I mean nobody steals stuff with the help of young children and a baby on their hip right?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4ef_1286649164
And these fine gentlemen giving this young man street fighting lessons, so very generous with their time!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BQYlrGK8ho
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2011/11/23/atlantic-city-undercover-analyzing-casino-crime/
I have nothing but praise for the locals. Watch as this family removes computer equipment from a strangers car.
Surely they were putting it in a safer place right? I mean nobody steals stuff with the help of young children and a baby on their hip right?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4ef_1286649164
And these fine gentlemen giving this young man street fighting lessons, so very generous with their time!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BQYlrGK8ho
March 23rd, 2015 at 3:15:35 PM
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IMO, while this article might have some merit to it, it still doesn't address the 800 lb gorilla in the room. The fact is, that people do not feel it is safe to go there, and they will take their gambling dollars elsewhere. Regardless of what you think of Las Vegas as a place to live (I have heard mixed reports from multiple people who live there), one thing you can't deny is where the tourist money is, on the strip, it is fairly safe and many people are walking around carrying rather large amounts of cash on them. Most cities, regardless of how they are outside of their downtown, or major area of commerce, keep up, maintain, and keep safe that major area so people are encouraged to come back and spend more of their time and money.
This hotel or that casino or the boardwalk could do this or that or add this new attraction but until people feel safe going there, it is not going to be all that it could and probably should be.
This hotel or that casino or the boardwalk could do this or that or add this new attraction but until people feel safe going there, it is not going to be all that it could and probably should be.
A flute with no holes is not a flute, a donut with no holes is a danish
March 23rd, 2015 at 3:44:06 PM
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Honestly it is safe to come to AC. The statistics prove it in more ways then one. The perception is stronger then the facts. Having said that they could still throw a coat of paint on 75% of the town.
March 23rd, 2015 at 3:45:19 PM
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I don't know how much safety plays into people opinions to going there. I have never once heard someone (other than online, and mostly regulars) who have complained about safety. I am sure there are people that do and probably a lot, I am just saying I have never had someone that I know say they wouldn't go out of fear.
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.
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March 23rd, 2015 at 3:57:28 PM
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There have been many times I've felt unsafe both in a casino and out.
That run from the Marina to the Boardwalk at night with those long lights on the cross streets have spooked me. I've seen people hanging out on those corners and I run the red light not to be a sitting duck alone in my car. Now I just cab it. It's sad because I get free parking everywhere and have to put out $26 just for safety's sake and peace of mind.
I know my money doesn't go as far as it used to and more and more losing trips dampen the enthusiasm. When you get a machine that's only been played once a week what makes you think you're going to hit and have a winning session. I know about the RNG and each time I sit down I have a shot but, boy those machines are so dead in most places especially over the winter months, they don't even have a chance of getting "hot".
That run from the Marina to the Boardwalk at night with those long lights on the cross streets have spooked me. I've seen people hanging out on those corners and I run the red light not to be a sitting duck alone in my car. Now I just cab it. It's sad because I get free parking everywhere and have to put out $26 just for safety's sake and peace of mind.
I know my money doesn't go as far as it used to and more and more losing trips dampen the enthusiasm. When you get a machine that's only been played once a week what makes you think you're going to hit and have a winning session. I know about the RNG and each time I sit down I have a shot but, boy those machines are so dead in most places especially over the winter months, they don't even have a chance of getting "hot".
You only go around once, but if you play your cards right, once is enough.”
¯ Francis Albert
March 23rd, 2015 at 4:12:47 PM
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We've had this mentioned before, but it's not easy to get to AC compared to many other vacation spots; bad and expensive flight schedules, strange road system, difficult to get around AC without a car. And all of them except Orlando and Hawaii have gambling now. I think the perception (largely true) that the Northeast US is the most expensive region of the country, coupled with the slummy approach to AC properties, the proliferation of gaming in the area, and the cold weather all add up to less tourist dollars than a person would think .
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
March 23rd, 2015 at 4:36:52 PM
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Quote: MrsHeartRNThere have been many times I've felt unsafe both in a casino and out.
That run from the Marina to the Boardwalk at night with those long lights on the cross streets have spooked me. I've seen people hanging out on those corners and I run the red light not to be a sitting duck alone in my car.
I spent many summers as a child, teenager, and young adult on Absecon Island, but it's a very different place than it was in my youth. Even then, we'd walk up to AC from Margate or Ventnor but never leave the boardwalk after we got past where the Atlantic Club had been (Boston Ave.?). I've felt that same unpleasant vibe when (rarely) venturing out these days. Generally speaking, I only go to the Borgata when I go now, and stay at the hotel the majority of the time I'm there. They have treated me well for years, but if it wasn't for the Borgata, I'd likely not visit the state of NJ again (let alone AC).
If government is the answer, it must have been a very stupid question.
March 23rd, 2015 at 5:16:35 PM
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Christie promised years ago to bring in state law enforcement. For a number of astoundingly dumb reasons, none has been visible. Atlantic City is like Managua, Nicaragua, one of those pathetic cities that keeps consuming itself.Quote: Gabes22The fact is, that people do not feel it is safe to go there, and they will take their gambling dollars elsewhere.
March 24th, 2015 at 6:05:35 AM
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They are doing some safety upgrades with lighting on the Boardwalk and in addition, the project includes 72 “tilt, pan and zoom” security cameras linked directly to the Atlantic City Police Department through a fiber-optic network. A digital storage facility will oversee the operation of the cameras and collection of data. (probably to monitor your non gaming activity, lol)
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/breaking/atlantic-city-s-boardwalk-to-sparkle-with-new-lighting/article_c21397a0-d1b2-11e4-af54-b322675a09c4.html
http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/breaking/atlantic-city-s-boardwalk-to-sparkle-with-new-lighting/article_c21397a0-d1b2-11e4-af54-b322675a09c4.html
You only go around once, but if you play your cards right, once is enough.”
¯ Francis Albert
March 24th, 2015 at 10:08:42 PM
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I think Atlantic City's problems have to do with Jersey as a whole. I used to go to AC every weekend when I moved back to NY from LA. Now I can't deal with Jersey's bullshit anymore (The low speed limits on highways, the rigged courts). I have taken my business to Connecticut and recommend others do the same. (At least they know how to treat tourists who put money into their state)
March 25th, 2015 at 3:25:28 AM
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Atlantic Cities problem IMHO is social in nature. You have entrenched multi-generational poverty and all the problems it causes.
Casinos created more jobs then there are residents. The C.R.D.A. sunk 1.5 billion into the city. Casinos created more jobs then residents.
Casino construction costs in 2015 dollars are perhaps another 10 billion. If A.C. proves anything it is that you can't solve social problems with money
Casinos created more jobs then there are residents. The C.R.D.A. sunk 1.5 billion into the city. Casinos created more jobs then residents.
Casino construction costs in 2015 dollars are perhaps another 10 billion. If A.C. proves anything it is that you can't solve social problems with money
March 25th, 2015 at 3:28:54 AM
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whats more they continue to build more "low income housing"
