Cryptologic double deck BJ

Cryptologic (intercasino) offer a double deck BJ which has a 0.18% house edge. Possibly significantly though, you can play 5 hands at once giving you a lot of information about the remaining cards in the deck. I've found a calculator herethat tells you what to do based on this information but it doesn't calculate a revised house edge. Factoring in a 0.1% comp rate, does anyone know whether the game can become player edge and by how much. Table max is 5k so even a slight edge (assuming perfect play) could be valuable.

Thanks in advance for any information or comments

Can you bet different amounts on the 5 different hands? If so, you can bet significantly more on the later hands and you should be able to squeeze out a small advantage. estimating the advantage would be tricky...

You can use a perfect play calculator based on the remaining cards in the deck. Yes, you can beat this game, betting minimum on spots 1 to 4, and maximum at 3-rd base. Make sure you have a big bankroll, and don't be surprised when your account is closed later that same day, your assets frozen, and you are barred from all CL casinos.

I'm sure someone is going to develop a perfect play blackjack app for the i-phone soon, so hang on!

--Dorothy

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Thanks, good idea.

Have you already tried it DorothyGale and received that treatment?

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Have you already tried it DorothyGale and received that treatment?

Just like B&M casinos, online casino vendors watch out for advantage play of all sorts. As you might imagine, it is inappropriate for me to discuss what I know about this in any more detail.

--Dorothy

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Quote: elscrabinda

Have you already tried it DorothyGale and received that treatment?

Just like B&M casinos, online casino vendors watch out for advantage play of all sorts. As you might imagine, it is inappropriate for me to discuss what I know about this in any more detail.

--Dorothy

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Online casinos are total idiots and probably would have a tough time catching a play like this. There is a certain Crypto trick that is a big advantage play and still works after several years so I doubt they'd catch on here anytime soon especially if you aren't going for a bonus at all. They are more concerned with bonus whoring than anything else.

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Online casinos are total idiots and probably would have a tough time catching a play like this.

You are equating the object "casinos" with the subject "casino employees." I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and replace "Online casinos" with "Some people who work at some online casinos."

Take your shots and live a good life.

--Dorothy

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Quote: JimMorrison

There is a certain Crypto trick that is a big advantage play and still works after several years so I doubt they'd catch on here anytime soon especially if you aren't going for a bonus at all. They are more concerned with bonus whoring than anything else.

Care to give a hint as to what this is? Does it involve video poker?

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Quote: JimMorrison

Online casinos are total idiots and probably would have a tough time catching a play like this.

You are equating the object "casinos" with the subject "casino employees." I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and replace "Online casinos" with "Some people who work at some online casinos."

Take your shots and live a good life.

--Dorothy

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No, I am saying exactly what I mean. I know online casinos better than just about anybody. WOO can attest to my credibility.

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Quote: JimMorrison

There is a certain Crypto trick that is a big advantage play and still works after several years so I doubt they'd catch on here anytime soon especially if you aren't going for a bonus at all. They are more concerned with bonus whoring than anything else.

Care to give a hint as to what this is?

Not a chance in hell lol. I make my living at this stuff, no hints sorry.

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Quote: DorothyGale

Quote: JimMorrison

Online casinos are total idiots and probably would have a tough time catching a play like this.

You are equating the object "casinos" with the subject "casino employees." I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and replace "Online casinos" with "Some people who work at some online casinos."

Take your shots and live a good life.

--Dorothy

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No, I am saying exactly what I mean. I know online casinos better than just about anybody. WOO can attest to my credibility.

Next time I see a screen shot of 3 Dice, I'll be sure to tell it that it's an idiot. Maybe I'll do that to a few Rivals, they're especially dumb. I can just see myself talking to my monitor, saying "you're an idiot!" That will be lots of fun.

Hey Bodog! You Idiot!

-- Dorothy

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Quote: DorothyGale

Quote: JimMorrison

Online casinos are total idiots and probably would have a tough time catching a play like this.

You are equating the object "casinos" with the subject "casino employees." I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and replace "Online casinos" with "Some people who work at some online casinos."

Take your shots and live a good life.

--Dorothy

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No, I am saying exactly what I mean. I know online casinos better than just about anybody. WOO can attest to my credibility.

It just occured to me that what you are saying is that the people who design the games, do the math, create the software and create promotions and bonuses are the idiots. You can see hole cards on online poker sites. After all, they're all idiots, right?

And sometimes you take advantage of mathematical errors. I wonder who does the math?

I hope I've driven home the point that "casinos" are not idiots.

You might want to look up Godwin's law -- I think the same thing applies to the Wiz. The first one to say they know him automatically wins the argument in the thread.

--Dorothy

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Quote: JimMorrison

Quote: DorothyGale

Quote: JimMorrison

Online casinos are total idiots and probably would have a tough time catching a play like this.

You are equating the object "casinos" with the subject "casino employees." I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and replace "Online casinos" with "Some people who work at some online casinos."

Take your shots and live a good life.

--Dorothy

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No, I am saying exactly what I mean. I know online casinos better than just about anybody. WOO can attest to my credibility.

It just occured to me that what you are saying is that the people who design the games, do the math, create the software and create promotions and bonuses are the idiots. You can see hole cards on online poker sites. After all, they're all idiots, right?

And sometimes you take advantage of mathematical errors. I wonder who does the math?

I hope I've driven home the point that "casinos" are not idiots.

You might want to look up Godwin's law -- I think the same thing applies to the Wiz. The first one to say they know him automatically wins the argument in the thread.

--Dorothy

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So you want to parse words? I think any rational person understood the point in my original post. As for "Godwin's law", I said WOO could attest to my credibility regarding online casinos. I wasn't bragging that I knew him so therefore I win the argument.

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I think any rational person understood the point in my original post.

For the sake of steering my irrational mind toward the rational, what is the point you are making by saying "Online casinos are total idiots"?

--Dorothy

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I think any rational person understood the point in my original post.

For the sake of steering my irrational mind toward the rational, what is the point you are making by saying "Online casinos are total idiots"?

--Dorothy

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Seriously? Look out of respect for my friendship with WOO I'm trying to be a lot nicer on his forum than I am on any others but you are making it tough. I think anyone who reads the original posts would have no problem getting my point. You state that a Crypto casino would take actions such as closing accounts, freezing assets and then barring them from all Crypto casinos. When asked if you had personally received this treatment, you go on to say, "Just like B&M casinos, online casino vendors watch out for advantage play of all sorts. As you might imagine, it is inappropriate for me to discuss what I know about this in any more detail." So you try to allude to some inside knowledge that I doubt you possess. You also try to give the impression that online casinos are sophisticated operations that are looking for all types of advantage play etc. I then wrote that they are idiots and would have a tough time catching something like this and that the advantage play they are looking for is bonus whoring. Now if you still have a hard time trying to understand my point then it is safe to say you will have a tough time following most discussions on this site.

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... you try to allude to some inside knowledge that I doubt you possess ...

Thanks for setting me straight and clarifying your point, and thanks so much for being a lot nicer here than you are on some other forums.

As for inside knowledge, let's just say, I've been over the rainbow more than a few times.

--Dorothy

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As for inside knowledge, let's just say, I've been over the rainbow more than a few times.

Doubtful, at least judging by the contents of your posts.

HOw do you post a threat again?