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mtltea
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October 31st, 2019 at 6:21:14 AM permalink
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I will look into these alleged commission-free Asia Gaming rules.



hi wizard,

it actually inside the AG gaming site game intro link that you posted in one of your post , when u look at the payoff table with title "Player (Banker) Odds of Lost" u will see odds of 1to1, that means if "player" cards loses to the "banker" cards, players who bet on "banker" box will win 1 to 1 on equal bet.

as im new here and hasnt posted 20 post, so i cant post any link nor do i know how to post pic, if you need, kindly teach me how to post pic or i can send it to you if you show me a contact(skype/email) to send to.
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November 19th, 2019 at 4:54:31 AM permalink
Hi Wizard, most Casinos in Sihanoukville are offering Super Niu Niu now. The following are the payout odds. You can bet on any of the three betting sections(ante only if you want) or all three sections. Any chance of getting the house edge?
andrew888
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November 19th, 2019 at 4:58:25 AM permalink
1. INTRODUCTION
Super Niu Niu is one of the popular traditional poker games. The greatest feature in this game is the rules easy to understand. Super Niu Niu game is played with a deck consist of 52 cards (Excluded Jokers).
J, Q, K is equal to 10. Other cards shall carry the denoted numerical value and Ace equal to 1.
Pattern order:
• Five Small Niu
• Four Of A Kind
• Ultimate Niu-Niu (5 pictures)
• Niu-Niu (10 points)
• Big Point: (9 points >8 points >7 points)
• Small Point: (6 points > 5 points > 4 points> 3 points > 2 points > 1 points)
• High card.
Point’s description:
• Five Small Niu: All five (5) cards are five (5) points or less, and the total points of cards is less than OR equal to ten (10), which is the biggest card in Niu Niu. Example: 11123 or 11124 or 11122 etc.
• Four Of A Kind: Four cards of the same rank in one hand
• Ultimate Niu-Niu: 5 picture cards
• Niu-Niu: Both the sum of the bottom three cards and the sum of the upper two cards is a multiple of 10.
• Big Point: The sum of the bottom cards is a multiple of 10. The sum of the upper two cards is 7, 8 or 9 points.
• Small Point: The sum of the bottom cards is a multiple of 10. The sum of the upper two cards is 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 or 1 points.
• High Card: Unable to make a multiple of 10 for among 5 cards.
• Rank Order: K> Q> J> 10> 9> 8> 7> 6> 5> 4> 3> 2> A.
• Suit Order: Spades > Hearts > Clubs > Diamonds.

2. GAME PATTERN AND DESCRIPTION:
Pattern Description
Five Small Niu All five (5) cards are less than five (5) points, and the total points of cards is less than OR equal to ten (10), which is the biggest card in Niu Niu. Example: 11123 or 11124 or 11122

Four Of A Kind Four cards of the same rank in one hand

Ultimate Niu-Niu All five cards are picture cards (Jacks, Queens, and Kings).

Niu Niu
Both the sum of the bottom three cards and the sum of the upper two cards are multiples of 10.

Big Point The sum of the bottom three cards are multiples of 10.
The sum of the upper two cards is 7, 8 and 9.

Small Point The sum of the bottom three cards are multiples of 10.
The sum of the upper two cards are 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 or 1

High Card Unable to make multiples of 10 from the 5 cards.

3. PLAYING METHOD OR COMPARING RULES:

3.1 Deal 5 cards to each Player and Dealer in every game round. Choose 3 of the 5 cards may add up to 10 or multiple of 10. The remaining 2 cards add up to more than 10, then must be minus 10 and the remaining points will be compare with the banker and higher point will win.

3.2 If both points are the same, higher ranking within 5 cards to be compare and higher-ranking cards will win.

3.3 If higher points and ranking card are the same, suit of the higher-ranking card to be compare and higher suit will win. Please refer to the below example;

• Example: Dealer card: 2,8 / K (Spades), Q, J
Player card: 2,8 / K (Hearts), Q, J
Game: Dealer card win (Suit Ranking)

• Example: Dealer card: 3,3 / Q, J,10
Player card: 2,2 / K, Q, J
Game: Dealer card win

• Example: Dealer card: 3, 3 / K (Diamonds), J, 10
Player card: 3, 3 / K (Hearts), J, 10
Game: Dealer card lose

4. PAYOUT DESCRIPTIONS:

4.1 If the player beats the dealer, the winning bets on ANTE betting box are pays according to the player’s card patterns.
• Five Small Niu pays 1 to 1 (without commission tax)
• Four Of A Kind pays 1 to 1 (without commission tax)
• Ultimate Niu Niu pays 1 to 1 (without commission tax)
• Niu-Niu pays 1 to 1 (without commission tax).
• Big Point pays 1 to 1 (without commission tax).
• Small Point pays 1 to 1 (without commission tax)
• High Card pays 1 to 1 (without commission tax)

4.2 If the player beats the dealer, the winning bets on DOUBLE betting box are pays according to the player’s card patterns.
• Five Small Niu pays 7 to 1 (5% commission tax)
• Four Of A Kind pays 6 to 1 (5% commission tax)
• Ultimate Niu Niu pays 5 to 1 (5% commission tax)
• Niu-Niu pays 3 to 1 (5% commission tax).
• Big Point pays 2 to 1 (5% commission tax).
• Small Point pays 1 to 1 (without commission tax)
• High Card pays 1 to 1 (without commission tax)

4.3 If the player beats the dealer, the winning bets on SUPER betting box are pays according to the player’s card patterns.
• Five Small Niu pays 13 to 1 (5% commission tax)
• Four Of A Kind pays 12 to 1 (5% commission tax)
• Ultimate Niu Niu pays 11 to 1 (5% commission tax)
• Niu-Niu pays 10 to 1 (5% commission tax).
• Big Point:
i. Niu 9 pays 9 to 1 (5% commission tax)
ii. Niu 8 pays 8 to1 ( 5% commission tax)
iii. Niu 7 pays 7 to1 ( 5% commission tax)
• Small Point:
i. Niu 6 pays 6 to 1 (5% commission tax)
ii. NIu 5 pays 5 to 1 (5% commission tax)
iii. NIu 4 pays 4 to 1 (5% commission tax)
iv. NIu 3 pays 3 to 1 (5% commission tax)
v. NIu 2 pays 2 to 1 (5% commission tax)
vi. NIu 1 pays 1 to 1 (without commission tax)
• High Card pays 1 to 1 (without commission tax)

4.4 Likewise, if the dealer beats the player, the losing bets on ANTE betting box are collects.

4.5 In the event the dealer beats the player, the losing bets on DOUBLE betting box are required to top up chips according to the banker’s card pattern.
• Super Small Niu top up and lose 1 to 7
• Four Of A Kind top up and lose 1 to 6
• Ultimate Niu Niu top up and lose 1 to 5
• Niu-Niu top up and lose 1 to 3
• Big Point top up and lose 1 to 2
• Small Point lose 1 to 1
• High Card lose 1 to 1

4.6 In the event the dealer beats the player, the losing bets on SUPER betting box are required to top up chips according to the banker’s card pattern.
• Super Small Niu top up and lose 1 to 13
• Four Of A Kind top up and lose 1 to 12
• Ultimate Niu Niu top up and lose 1 to 11
• Niu-Niu top up and lose 1 to 10
• Big Point:
i. Niu 9 top up and lose 1 to 9
ii. Niu 8 top up and lose 1 to 8
iii. Niu 7 top up and lose 1 to 7
• Small Point:
i. Niu 6 top up and lose 1 to 6
ii. Niu 5 top up and lose 1 to 5
iii. Niu 4 top up and lose 1 to 4
iv. Niu 3 top up and lose 1 to 3
v. Niu 2 top up and lose 1 to 2
vi. Niu 1 maintain and lose 1 to 1
• High Card lose 1 to 1

5. PAYOUT CHART LIST:

Win of Even money, Double, Triple and above:
Card Types Odds of Ante Odds of Double Odds of Super
Super Small Niu 1:1 (Without com) 1:7 (Com 5%) 1:13 (Com 5%)
Four Of A Kind 1:1 (Without com) 1:6 (Com 5%) 1:12 (Com 5%)
Ultimate Niu Niu 1:1 (Without com) 1:5 (Com 5%) 1:11 (Com 5%)
Niu Niu 1:1 (Without com) 1:3 (Com 5%) 1:10 (Com 5%)
Niu 9 1:1 (Without com) 1:2 (Com 5%) 1:9 (Com 5%)
Niu 8 1:1 (Without com) 1:2 (Com 5%) 1:8 (Com 5%)
Niu 7 1:1 (Without com) 1:2 (Com 5%) 1:7 (Com 5%)
Niu 6 1:1 (Without com) 1:1 (Without com) 1:6 (Com 5%)
Niu 5 1:1 (Without com) 1:1 (Without com) 1:5 (Com 5%)
Niu 4 1:1 (Without com) 1:1 (Without com) 1:4 (Com 5%)
Niu 3 1:1 (Without com) 1:1 (Without com) 1:3 (Com 5%)
Niu 2 1:1 (Without com) 1:1 (Without com) 1:2 (Com 5%)
Niu 1 1:1 (Without com) 1:1 (Without com) 1:1 (Without com)
High Card 1:1 (Without com) 1:1 (Without com) 1:1 (Without com)

Odd of Lose
Card Types Odds of Ante Odds of Double Odds of Super
Super Small Niu 1:1 Lose 1:7 Lose 1:13
Four Of A Kind 1:1 Lose 1:6 Lose 1:12
Ultimate Niu Niu 1:1 Lose 1:5 Lose 1:11
Niu Niu 1:1 Lose 1:3 Lose 1:10
Niu 9 1:1 Lose 1:2 Lose 1:9
Niu 8 1:1 Lose 1:2 Lose 1:8
Niu 7 1:1 Lose 1:2 Lose 1:7
Niu 6 1:1 Lose 1:1 Lose 1:6
Niu 5 1:1 Lose 1:1 Lose 1:5
Niu 4 1:1 Lose 1:1 Lose 1:4
Niu 3 1:1 Lose 1:1 Lose 1:3
Niu 2 1:1 Lose 1:1 Lose 1:2
Niu 1 1:1 Lose 1:1 Lose 1:1
High Card 1:1 Lose 1:1 Lose 1:1
tomchina123
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January 28th, 2020 at 5:04:29 AM permalink
finally, i got time to reply this again after my ok success in this city being an Ap.

on, August 20th, 2019 at 9:14:30 PM, i made some numbers without full consideration of special niu. now it is full.

thanks for Miplet of this helpfi; table-making link: http://miplet.net/table/
NIUNIU-by tomchina123胡歌Tom
TYPEpermutationPROB.notes
3 high336000.01077%
4 high1382400.04433%
5 high2304000.07388%
6 high9676800.31028%
7 high26918400.86311%
8 high43987201.41041%
9 high68697602.20273%
10 high100377603.21852%
J high182092805.83864%
Q high263808008.45877%
K high3455232011.07889%
niu 1205545606.59064%
niu 2201686406.46689%
niu 3205545606.59064%
niu 4201686406.46689%
niu 5212889606.82612%
niu 6201686406.46689%
niu 7205545606.59064%
niu 8201686406.46689%
niu 9205545606.59064%
niu niu 229171207.34817%
5 pictures921600.02955%JQKKK,JJQQK
4 of a kind(maybe also 5 pictures)720000.02309%88885,JJJJQ
5 small niu(maybe also 4 of a kind)1017600.03263%AA233,AAAA6
total 311875200100.00000%



for 5 pictures & 4 of a kind(eg: JJJJQ), we usually take it as 4 of a kind, because it is higher rank than 5 pictures(if dealer is QQQKK),
4 of a kind & 5 small cards(eg: 11112), we usually take it as 5 small cards, because it is higher rank than 4 of a kind(if dealer is 22228),
addtionally, some may want to know details of above:
NIUNIU-one deck by tomchina123胡歌Tom
TYPEpermutationPROB.notes
3 high336000.0108%
4 high1382400.0443%
5 high2304000.0739%
6 high9676800.3103%
7 high26918400.8631%
8 high43987201.4104%
9 high68697602.2027%
10 high100377603.2185%
J high182092805.8386%
Q high263808008.4588%
K high3455232011.0789%
niu 1205545606.5906%
niu 2201686406.4669%
niu 3205545606.5906%
niu 4201686406.4669%
niu 5212889606.8261%
niu 6201686406.4669%
niu 7205545606.5906%
niu 8201686406.4669%
niu 9205545606.5906%
niu niu 229171207.3482%
5 pictures only (no 4 of a kind)921600.0296%JQKKK
4 of a kind only (no 5 small niu)691200.0222%88885
5 small niu988800.0317%AA233
5 pictures & 4 of a kind28800.0009%JJJJQ
4 of a kind & 5 small niu28800.0009%AAAA2
total 311875200100.0000%




for other probablities, i may cover them in the coming time.
Last edited by: tomchina123 on Jan 28, 2020
tomchina123
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January 28th, 2020 at 10:52:05 AM permalink
Quote: andrew888

1. INTRODUCTION
Super Niu Niu is one of the popular traditional poker games. The greatest feature in this game is the rules easy to understand. Super Niu Niu game is played with a deck consist of 52 cards (Excluded Jokers).
J, Q, K is equal to 10. Other cards shall carry the denoted numerical value and Ace equal to 1.
Pattern order:
• Five Small Niu
• Four Of A Kind
• Ultimate Niu-Niu (5 pictures)
• Niu-Niu (10 points)
• Big Point: (9 points >8 points >7 points)
• Small Point: (6 points > 5 points > 4 points> 3 points > 2 points > 1 points)
• High card.
Point’s description:
• Five Small Niu: All five (5) cards are five (5) points or less, and the total points of cards is less than OR equal to ten (10), which is the biggest card in Niu Niu. Example: 11123 or 11124 or 11122 etc.
• Four Of A Kind: Four cards of the same rank in one hand
• Ultimate Niu-Niu: 5 picture cards
• Niu-Niu: Both the sum of the bottom three cards and the sum of the upper two cards is a multiple of 10.
• Big Point: The sum of the bottom cards is a multiple of 10. The sum of the upper two cards is 7, 8 or 9 points.
• Small Point: The sum of the bottom cards is a multiple of 10. The sum of the upper two cards is 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 or 1 points.
• High Card: Unable to make a multiple of 10 for among 5 cards.
• Rank Order: K> Q> J> 10> 9> 8> 7> 6> 5> 4> 3> 2> A.
• Suit Order: Spades > Hearts > Clubs > Diamonds.

2. GAME PATTERN AND DESCRIPTION:
Pattern Description
Five Small Niu All five (5) cards are less than five (5) points, and the total points of cards is less than OR equal to ten (10), which is the biggest card in Niu Niu. Example: 11123 or 11124 or 11122

Four Of A Kind Four cards of the same rank in one hand

Ultimate Niu-Niu All five cards are picture cards (Jacks, Queens, and Kings).

Niu Niu
Both the sum of the bottom three cards and the sum of the upper two cards are multiples of 10.

Big Point The sum of the bottom three cards are multiples of 10.
The sum of the upper two cards is 7, 8 and 9.

Small Point The sum of the bottom three cards are multiples of 10.
The sum of the upper two cards are 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 or 1

High Card Unable to make multiples of 10 from the 5 cards.

3. PLAYING METHOD OR COMPARING RULES:

3.1 Deal 5 cards to each Player and Dealer in every game round. Choose 3 of the 5 cards may add up to 10 or multiple of 10. The remaining 2 cards add up to more than 10, then must be minus 10 and the remaining points will be compare with the banker and higher point will win.

3.2 If both points are the same, higher ranking within 5 cards to be compare and higher-ranking cards will win.

3.3 If higher points and ranking card are the same, suit of the higher-ranking card to be compare and higher suit will win. Please refer to the below example;

• Example: Dealer card: 2,8 / K (Spades), Q, J
Player card: 2,8 / K (Hearts), Q, J
Game: Dealer card win (Suit Ranking)

• Example: Dealer card: 3,3 / Q, J,10
Player card: 2,2 / K, Q, J
Game: Dealer card win

• Example: Dealer card: 3, 3 / K (Diamonds), J, 10
Player card: 3, 3 / K (Hearts), J, 10
Game: Dealer card lose

4. PAYOUT DESCRIPTIONS:

4.1 If the player beats the dealer, the winning bets on ANTE betting box are pays according to the player’s card patterns.
• Five Small Niu pays 1 to 1 (without commission tax)
• Four Of A Kind pays 1 to 1 (without commission tax)
• Ultimate Niu Niu pays 1 to 1 (without commission tax)
• Niu-Niu pays 1 to 1 (without commission tax).
• Big Point pays 1 to 1 (without commission tax).
• Small Point pays 1 to 1 (without commission tax)
• High Card pays 1 to 1 (without commission tax)

4.2 If the player beats the dealer, the winning bets on DOUBLE betting box are pays according to the player’s card patterns.
• Five Small Niu pays 7 to 1 (5% commission tax)
• Four Of A Kind pays 6 to 1 (5% commission tax)
• Ultimate Niu Niu pays 5 to 1 (5% commission tax)
• Niu-Niu pays 3 to 1 (5% commission tax).
• Big Point pays 2 to 1 (5% commission tax).
• Small Point pays 1 to 1 (without commission tax)
• High Card pays 1 to 1 (without commission tax)

4.3 If the player beats the dealer, the winning bets on SUPER betting box are pays according to the player’s card patterns.
• Five Small Niu pays 13 to 1 (5% commission tax)
• Four Of A Kind pays 12 to 1 (5% commission tax)
• Ultimate Niu Niu pays 11 to 1 (5% commission tax)
• Niu-Niu pays 10 to 1 (5% commission tax).
• Big Point:
i. Niu 9 pays 9 to 1 (5% commission tax)
ii. Niu 8 pays 8 to1 ( 5% commission tax)
iii. Niu 7 pays 7 to1 ( 5% commission tax)
• Small Point:
i. Niu 6 pays 6 to 1 (5% commission tax)
ii. NIu 5 pays 5 to 1 (5% commission tax)
iii. NIu 4 pays 4 to 1 (5% commission tax)
iv. NIu 3 pays 3 to 1 (5% commission tax)
v. NIu 2 pays 2 to 1 (5% commission tax)
vi. NIu 1 pays 1 to 1 (without commission tax)
• High Card pays 1 to 1 (without commission tax)

4.4 Likewise, if the dealer beats the player, the losing bets on ANTE betting box are collects.

4.5 In the event the dealer beats the player, the losing bets on DOUBLE betting box are required to top up chips according to the banker’s card pattern.
• Super Small Niu top up and lose 1 to 7
• Four Of A Kind top up and lose 1 to 6
• Ultimate Niu Niu top up and lose 1 to 5
• Niu-Niu top up and lose 1 to 3
• Big Point top up and lose 1 to 2
• Small Point lose 1 to 1
• High Card lose 1 to 1

4.6 In the event the dealer beats the player, the losing bets on SUPER betting box are required to top up chips according to the banker’s card pattern.
• Super Small Niu top up and lose 1 to 13
• Four Of A Kind top up and lose 1 to 12
• Ultimate Niu Niu top up and lose 1 to 11
• Niu-Niu top up and lose 1 to 10
• Big Point:
i. Niu 9 top up and lose 1 to 9
ii. Niu 8 top up and lose 1 to 8
iii. Niu 7 top up and lose 1 to 7
• Small Point:
i. Niu 6 top up and lose 1 to 6
ii. Niu 5 top up and lose 1 to 5
iii. Niu 4 top up and lose 1 to 4
iv. Niu 3 top up and lose 1 to 3
v. Niu 2 top up and lose 1 to 2
vi. Niu 1 maintain and lose 1 to 1
• High Card lose 1 to 1

5. PAYOUT CHART LIST:

Win of Even money, Double, Triple and above:
Card Types Odds of Ante Odds of Double Odds of Super
Super Small Niu 1:1 (Without com) 1:7 (Com 5%) 1:13 (Com 5%)
Four Of A Kind 1:1 (Without com) 1:6 (Com 5%) 1:12 (Com 5%)
Ultimate Niu Niu 1:1 (Without com) 1:5 (Com 5%) 1:11 (Com 5%)
Niu Niu 1:1 (Without com) 1:3 (Com 5%) 1:10 (Com 5%)
Niu 9 1:1 (Without com) 1:2 (Com 5%) 1:9 (Com 5%)
Niu 8 1:1 (Without com) 1:2 (Com 5%) 1:8 (Com 5%)
Niu 7 1:1 (Without com) 1:2 (Com 5%) 1:7 (Com 5%)
Niu 6 1:1 (Without com) 1:1 (Without com) 1:6 (Com 5%)
Niu 5 1:1 (Without com) 1:1 (Without com) 1:5 (Com 5%)
Niu 4 1:1 (Without com) 1:1 (Without com) 1:4 (Com 5%)
Niu 3 1:1 (Without com) 1:1 (Without com) 1:3 (Com 5%)
Niu 2 1:1 (Without com) 1:1 (Without com) 1:2 (Com 5%)
Niu 1 1:1 (Without com) 1:1 (Without com) 1:1 (Without com)
High Card 1:1 (Without com) 1:1 (Without com) 1:1 (Without com)

Odd of Lose
Card Types Odds of Ante Odds of Double Odds of Super
Super Small Niu 1:1 Lose 1:7 Lose 1:13
Four Of A Kind 1:1 Lose 1:6 Lose 1:12
Ultimate Niu Niu 1:1 Lose 1:5 Lose 1:11
Niu Niu 1:1 Lose 1:3 Lose 1:10
Niu 9 1:1 Lose 1:2 Lose 1:9
Niu 8 1:1 Lose 1:2 Lose 1:8
Niu 7 1:1 Lose 1:2 Lose 1:7
Niu 6 1:1 Lose 1:1 Lose 1:6
Niu 5 1:1 Lose 1:1 Lose 1:5
Niu 4 1:1 Lose 1:1 Lose 1:4
Niu 3 1:1 Lose 1:1 Lose 1:3
Niu 2 1:1 Lose 1:1 Lose 1:2
Niu 1 1:1 Lose 1:1 Lose 1:1
High Card 1:1 Lose 1:1 Lose 1:1



by above rule, my draft calculation is:
for double, HE is 2.7123% of original bet.
for triple, HE is 14.0635% of the original bet.

notes of the calculation:
1) if below explation is poorly-written english, don't read and don't criticize, i hate it.
2) because it is related to colors of the card(if the same rank, niu 7 and niu 7, we need to rank them by spade, heart...), the combinations(actually, i use permutation) is 1024 times more, i rank the same niu or the same high points by half time winning, half time losing, eg: if niuniu VS niuniu, half of the time is player's winning, then half of the time, we are charged of commission. it should be very close enough to final number.

the number is draft, take it as reference first. later on, i will do some simulation on it.
tomchina123
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June 28th, 2020 at 2:22:39 PM permalink
it is a long time i reopen this thread.

i come to say goodbye to the game of niuniu. because i think i was cheated.

i played in a big and famous casino in sihanouk. flat bet. 1:1, not house edge. no magnet in the dice as tested. i played 150 times, lost 40 bets.
after this, i felt very bad and made a simu. it is like once in more than 3 years. which means, if i make 150 bets every day, it happens only once in 3 years. why did it happen in that day?

cheating is very often in this city. but on that day, on that casino, i made the decision to say goodbye to niuniu. and very likely most dice-related games.

readers may think i am some one who is easy to be cheated. i should inform: in this city,i made good money last year ok money this year.
niuniuking
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July 11th, 2020 at 3:31:27 AM permalink
I am an Advanced AP but I just cannot see how they can cheat although I lost big too. You see they shuffle many many times. 2 In dealing the cards it is one card to each person rotating rather than complete one person then the next. Third there are three dice which comes out to different numbers.

If they want to cheat how to? not the slightest idea. I lost very big too

Quote: tomchina123

it is a long time i reopen this thread.

i come to say goodbye to the game of niuniu. because i think i was cheated.

i played in a big and famous casino in sihanouk. flat bet. 1:1, not house edge. no magnet in the dice as tested. i played 150 times, lost 40 bets.
after this, i felt very bad and made a simu. it is like once in more than 3 years. which means, if i make 150 bets every day, it happens only once in 3 years. why did it happen in that day?

cheating is very often in this city. but on that day, on that casino, i made the decision to say goodbye to niuniu. and very likely most dice-related games.

readers may think i am some one who is easy to be cheated. i should inform: in this city,i made good money last year ok money this year.

tomchina123
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July 12th, 2020 at 8:58:01 PM permalink
well. but better to be suspicious than not.

Quote: niuniuking

I am an Advanced AP but I just cannot see how they can cheat although I lost big too. You see they shuffle many many times. 2 In dealing the cards it is one card to each person rotating rather than complete one person then the next. Third there are three dice which comes out to different numbers.

If they want to cheat how to? not the slightest idea. I lost very big too

niuniuking
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July 14th, 2020 at 5:20:55 AM permalink
Cheating is rampant. You want to share examples? false shuffles or dealing doubles?

Quote: tomchina123

it is a long time i reopen this thread.

i come to say goodbye to the game of niuniu. because i think i was cheated.

i played in a big and famous casino in sihanouk. flat bet. 1:1, not house edge. no magnet in the dice as tested. i played 150 times, lost 40 bets.
after this, i felt very bad and made a simu. it is like once in more than 3 years. which means, if i make 150 bets every day, it happens only once in 3 years. why did it happen in that day?

cheating is very often in this city. but on that day, on that casino, i made the decision to say goodbye to niuniu. and very likely most dice-related games.

readers may think i am some one who is easy to be cheated. i should inform: in this city,i made good money last year ok money this year.

niuniuking
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July 26th, 2020 at 1:04:36 PM permalink
Quote: niuniuking

Cheating is rampant. You want to share examples? false shuffles or dealing doubles?



I lost again. lost 50 units out of 1000 bets. The math says odds of this happening is once in a year.

Now how do I test them for cheating???

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