How to say "bye" in binary.
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November 6th, 2017 at 9:42:56 PM
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In episode 6 of season 11 of The Big Bang Theory, Sheldon, acting as Professor Proton, closes his audition by saying "01000100111100101100101, which means 'bye' in binary."
I recorded the show and played back the number several times, because Sheldon said it quickly, to hopefully ensure I got it right. That said, when I convert it to decimal I get 4,356,453. When I convert that to base 26, I get JNWLX. Nothing close to "bye." The correct binary for "bye" is 10100011000.
Unless there is something I'm not seeing, this isn't the first time I've disagreed with the math and science on the show. I speculate that actor Jim Parsons may just have been saying random zeros and ones. A big clue is that the first digit is a zero. That is like me saying that 03 girls spoke to me in high school. Leading with a zero adds no useful information and only causes to add confusion.
The question for the poll is what is your take on the scene?
I recorded the show and played back the number several times, because Sheldon said it quickly, to hopefully ensure I got it right. That said, when I convert it to decimal I get 4,356,453. When I convert that to base 26, I get JNWLX. Nothing close to "bye." The correct binary for "bye" is 10100011000.
Unless there is something I'm not seeing, this isn't the first time I've disagreed with the math and science on the show. I speculate that actor Jim Parsons may just have been saying random zeros and ones. A big clue is that the first digit is a zero. That is like me saying that 03 girls spoke to me in high school. Leading with a zero adds no useful information and only causes to add confusion.
The question for the poll is what is your take on the scene?
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
November 6th, 2017 at 10:52:46 PM
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My Big Bang Theory: God said "Bang" and it happened.
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November 6th, 2017 at 11:37:30 PM
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You separate the 24 binary digits into 3 sets of 8, then convert them into decimal. So the first 8 digits 01000010 convert to 66 in decimal. B is the 66th member of the ASCII character set. Then y is 121 and e is 101.
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November 7th, 2017 at 2:46:54 AM
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0100001001100001011110100110100101101110011001110110000100100001Quote: Ace2You separate the 24 binary digits into 3 sets of 8, then convert them into decimal. So the first 8 digits 01000010 convert to 66 in decimal. B is the 66th member of the ASCII character set. Then y is 121 and e is 101.
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November 7th, 2017 at 3:40:34 AM
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Quote: miplet0100001001100001011110100110100101101110011001110110000100100001
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November 7th, 2017 at 5:10:21 AM
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I also was going to suggest that it’s standard ascii, and that a more normal nerd would have expressed it in hex.
No offense Wiz, but base 26? Even Sheldon isn’t nerdy enough to go that far!Quote: Wizard... When I convert that to base 26, ...
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November 7th, 2017 at 5:17:10 AM
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You go, Ace! But it looks like Jim Parsons may have omitted a zero as there are only 23 digits in Wiz's number.Quote: Ace2You separate the 24 binary digits into 3 sets of 8, then convert them into decimal. So the first 8 digits 01000010 convert to 66 in decimal. B is the 66th member of the ASCII character set. Then y is 121 and e is 101.
If you insert a zero between the 2nd & 5th digits from the left, then you do indeed get "Bye" as Ace2 stated above.
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November 7th, 2017 at 5:48:26 AM
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Quote: JoemanYou go, Ace! But it looks like Jim Parsons may have omitted a zero as there are only 23 digits in Wiz's number.
If you insert a zero between the 2nd & 5th digits from the left, then you do indeed get "Bye" as Ace2 stated above.
Exactly. Or, if you insert a 1 directly after the first 1, you get "bye" in all lowercase.
November 7th, 2017 at 5:53:57 AM
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Ace2 and miplet sure put me to shame on that one. Here is an extended Ascii table. His sequence does indeed translate to "Bye." Sheldon even made a quick joke about extended Ascii on the show. How many push-ups do I owe?
Miplet, once again you prove you're worth your weight in 01110000 01100001 01101100 01101100 01100001 01100100 01101001 01110101 01101101 .
Miplet, once again you prove you're worth your weight in 01110000 01100001 01101100 01101100 01100001 01100100 01101001 01110101 01101101 .
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
November 7th, 2017 at 6:50:26 AM
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Not only do you have to be a member of the Geek class, you have to have enough points allocated to the CompSci specialization.
Being such a geek myself, I of course immediately though that he must be presenting ASCII in binary.
That's the first BBT I've watched in a long time. I saw in the TV guide listing "Professor Proton" and thought that Bob Newhart might make another appearance and he did. I like Wil Wheaton's character Wil Wheaton, too.
Being such a geek myself, I of course immediately though that he must be presenting ASCII in binary.
That's the first BBT I've watched in a long time. I saw in the TV guide listing "Professor Proton" and thought that Bob Newhart might make another appearance and he did. I like Wil Wheaton's character Wil Wheaton, too.
November 7th, 2017 at 7:00:48 AM
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Ace2 did all the hard work, I just used google.Quote: WizardAce2 and miplet sure put me to shame on that one. Here is an extended Ascii table. His sequence does indeed translate to "Bye." Sheldon even made a quick joke about extended Ascii on the show. How many push-ups do I owe?
Miplet, once again you prove you're worth your weight in 01110000 01100001 01101100 01101100 01100001 01100100 01101001 01110101 01101101 .
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November 7th, 2017 at 7:01:50 AM
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Quote: DeMangoMy Big Bang Theory: God said "Bang" and it happened.
What created God though????
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November 7th, 2017 at 8:06:29 AM
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Quote: Dalex64Not only do you have to be a member of the Geek class, you have to have enough points allocated to the CompSci specialization.
You want true CompSci Geekiness:
0GEE (that's a zero in front, and yes, that's a G)
November 7th, 2017 at 8:16:29 AM
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You actually got THREE girls to talk to you during high school? Why would you not tell the rest of us your secrets?!?!?!Quote: Wizard...That is like me saying that 03 girls spoke to me in high school...
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
November 7th, 2017 at 9:31:24 AM
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Quote: WizardUnless there is something I'm not seeing, this isn't the first time I've disagreed with the math and science on the show.
What else seemed off to you? So far I've been really impressed by the accuracy of the show, especially the equations and formulas on the guys' whiteboards. The only thing I have a disagreement with is an episode where Sheldon confuses ordinal and cardinal numbers.
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November 7th, 2017 at 10:33:38 AM
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Quote: Dalex64Not only do you have to be a member of the Geek class, you have to have enough points allocated to the CompSci specialization.
I initially majored in computer science but changed to math and economics. Given all the computer background I have, I am very ashamed of myself for not remembering about ascii binary. I think in my introduction to computer programming class in high school it was taught and I never saw it again.
I wish I were Catholic at times like this because I feel very guilty and in need of a penance.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
November 7th, 2017 at 10:40:30 AM
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Quote: TumblingBonesWhat else seemed off to you? So far I've been really impressed by the accuracy of the show, especially the equations and formulas on the guys' whiteboards. The only thing I have a disagreement with is an episode where Sheldon confuses ordinal and cardinal numbers.
Some of their many references to Bose Einstein condensates seemed like they didn't fit into the context of the conversation and the writers were just trying to impress us. Or maybe it could be attributed to character behavior.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
November 7th, 2017 at 11:15:37 AM
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I’m not a computer science guy and have only come across ASCII a couple times in my life.
I was initially going down the Wiz’s path of applying large alphabetical bases like 26 or 52.
The capital B (66) made it more difficult to identify a pattern. But when I realized the middle 8 digits (121 in decimal ) and last 8 (101 in decimal) were 20 apart, same difference as y to e in the standard alphabet, I realized I had found the solution somehow.
I was initially going down the Wiz’s path of applying large alphabetical bases like 26 or 52.
The capital B (66) made it more difficult to identify a pattern. But when I realized the middle 8 digits (121 in decimal ) and last 8 (101 in decimal) were 20 apart, same difference as y to e in the standard alphabet, I realized I had found the solution somehow.
It’s all about making that GTA
November 7th, 2017 at 1:46:48 PM
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Look at this one. There are gaps in the sequence of the alphabet!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBCDIC
compare that to ASCII where you can see how things line up with eachother
http://www.asciitable.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBCDIC
compare that to ASCII where you can see how things line up with eachother
http://www.asciitable.com/
November 7th, 2017 at 1:54:35 PM
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The bigger question is, why are people still watching this awful show? Adding those extra girls ruined it.
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November 7th, 2017 at 2:10:16 PM
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I was brought up on mainframes which used EBCDIC and Hex. So F0,F1...F9 were 0-9, 81-89 were a-i, C1-C9 were A-I. ASCII was used on smaller computers, which didn't need 256 symbols, so used a different method but was substantially similar. For geeks there are double-byte character sets etc.Quote: Wizard... "01000100111100101100101, which means 'bye' in binary."...
In this case the give away would be to see a number ending 0010 and 0101 realising they were 2 and 5 corresponding to B and E.
November 7th, 2017 at 3:20:02 PM
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Quote: charliepatrickI was brought up on mainframes which used EBCDIC
I haven't heard that word in about 35 years. Back when some programmers still used punch cards.
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November 7th, 2017 at 3:33:33 PM
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November 7th, 2017 at 4:44:56 PM
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Quote: IbeatyouracesWhat created God though????
Ask your god, Stephen Hawking, but oh wait, he doesn't know either!
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November 7th, 2017 at 5:05:01 PM
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Quote: DeMangoAsk your god, Stephen Hawking, but oh wait, he doesn't know either!
I'm not silly enough to have ANY "god"
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November 7th, 2017 at 5:09:04 PM
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Quote: JohnnyQIs it time and memorial or time immemorial?
- time immemorial
I was hoping somebody would chime in on that.
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November 7th, 2017 at 5:36:00 PM
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Quote: WizardI haven't heard that word in about 35 years. Back when some programmers still used punch cards.
Don't judge me, I started on punchcards using a small IBM 360 mainframe. Yes, I used EBCDIC.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
November 7th, 2017 at 6:01:14 PM
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A far superior character set than ASCII is EBCDIC. (Extended Binary Coded Decimal Interchange Code). ASCII uses the lower 7 digits of a byte, while EBCDIC uses all eight bits. Accordingly, there are 128 characters in the ASCII character set, while there are a full 256 characters in the EBCDIC set.
EBCDIC is the sequence set used on mainframe computers - the big iron still used in large corporations, banks and insurance companies (thankfully for me, a dinosaur from a time when IBM mainframes were the only game in town, still employed in a world where mainframe programmers are as scarce as farriers and buggy-whip tuners).
Characters in the two sets are assigned different values - an ASCII "b" has a different numerical assignment than an EBCDIC "b". So an ASCII "bye" has a different set of bits than an EBCDIC "bye".
The reference to hexadecimal vs, binary refers to how a set of bits are represented. There are just two binary values - 0 and 1. A binary number can only be composed of zeros and ones. Hexadecimal notation represents the same number, but in base-16, not base-2 (binary). You can convert any binary number (base-2) into any other base, be it hexadecimal (base-16) or decimal (base-10), decimal being the system we are most comfortable with, because, of course, we have ten fingers.
But I digress. The point is that in EBCIDIC, "bye" is made up of a different set of zeros and ones, since those three letters are assigned different places in the EBCDIC character set,
"bye" in EBCIDIC consists of the hexadecimal digits 82 A8 85. The binary representation of those digits (if I convert them properly in my head...) is
b=1000 0010
y=1011 0010
e=1000 0101
Note that these bytes all have the left-most bit in the left-most nibble of each byte turned "on" - whereas with the ASCII "bye" those bits are all "off". All ASCII characters start with high-order bits set to 0.
EBCDIC is the sequence set used on mainframe computers - the big iron still used in large corporations, banks and insurance companies (thankfully for me, a dinosaur from a time when IBM mainframes were the only game in town, still employed in a world where mainframe programmers are as scarce as farriers and buggy-whip tuners).
Characters in the two sets are assigned different values - an ASCII "b" has a different numerical assignment than an EBCDIC "b". So an ASCII "bye" has a different set of bits than an EBCDIC "bye".
The reference to hexadecimal vs, binary refers to how a set of bits are represented. There are just two binary values - 0 and 1. A binary number can only be composed of zeros and ones. Hexadecimal notation represents the same number, but in base-16, not base-2 (binary). You can convert any binary number (base-2) into any other base, be it hexadecimal (base-16) or decimal (base-10), decimal being the system we are most comfortable with, because, of course, we have ten fingers.
But I digress. The point is that in EBCIDIC, "bye" is made up of a different set of zeros and ones, since those three letters are assigned different places in the EBCDIC character set,
"bye" in EBCIDIC consists of the hexadecimal digits 82 A8 85. The binary representation of those digits (if I convert them properly in my head...) is
b=1000 0010
y=1011 0010
e=1000 0101
Note that these bytes all have the left-most bit in the left-most nibble of each byte turned "on" - whereas with the ASCII "bye" those bits are all "off". All ASCII characters start with high-order bits set to 0.
November 8th, 2017 at 2:39:43 AM
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My Dad, who would have been 100 this year, was upset to hear a grandson went to college only to get a job 'in computers' as everyone was saying. Turns out the only concept he had about that was keypunch operator; to emphasize what he meant , he even said "those jobs for women".
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November 8th, 2017 at 4:19:48 AM
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That show is literally awful.
November 8th, 2017 at 6:23:01 AM
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Quote: WizardI haven't heard that word in about 35 years. Back when some programmers still used punch cards.
You're lucky - I heard it at work five minutes ago. ("Why is this list sorted with letters before numbers? Wait, don't tell me...")
IIRC, the IRS still has quite a bit of code on "heavy iron" in COBOL using EBCDIC.
November 8th, 2017 at 6:40:35 AM
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Quote: RSThat show is literally awful.
It’s the most divisive show I’ve ever seen. It has a huge fan fanbase, and an equally large number of people who absolutely can’t stand it.
I think it’s alright It’s usually not laugh out loud funny, but sometimes I’ll breath out of my nose harder than usual when they hit a punchline.
If you want to talk terrible shows, I’d rank 2 Broke Girls or 2.5 Men wayyy higher.
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November 8th, 2017 at 9:55:03 AM
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At school (PDP11) programs were on paper tape, while at college (IBM 360) and my first graduate job it was punched cards (although we filled in coding sheets which someone else typed at work). Because A-Z comes before 0-9 on the mainframe and I started collecting records at college my record collection is sorted with the letters before the numbers, which is different from when sorting a spreadsheet on the PC!Quote: WizardI haven't heard that word in about 35 years. Back when some programmers still used punch cards.
November 8th, 2017 at 11:25:17 AM
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2nd season, Christmas show was the funniest thing I've seen on TV is the last decade.I hurt myself laughing. But it's only regular funny unless you're already into the characters, which I was.
For me, it jumped the shark around season 5 or 6, somewhere in there, but still watchable. The first 3 seasons are gold.
For me, it jumped the shark around season 5 or 6, somewhere in there, but still watchable. The first 3 seasons are gold.
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November 8th, 2017 at 12:51:12 PM
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I think they messed up too...
Binary -> Hex -> Ascii
01000100111100101100101 -> 227965 -> "ye
It should be 627965, which would be bye
Which means the first binary string should read "11000100111100101100101". I'd be 99% sure Jim Parsons just simply misread the line, because it was supposed to start with a 1, instead of a 0.
Binary -> Hex -> Ascii
01000100111100101100101 -> 227965 -> "ye
It should be 627965, which would be bye
Which means the first binary string should read "11000100111100101100101". I'd be 99% sure Jim Parsons just simply misread the line, because it was supposed to start with a 1, instead of a 0.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
November 8th, 2017 at 3:53:05 PM
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There was a very quick joke made about Ascii being good binary, but he phrased it like "good bye"...nary, to make a play on words. However, he said it so quickly I didn't get the exact words. However, it should have clued me in that was using Ascii (do I capitalize that?) but it just didn't sink in because he spoke so fast.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
