DarkMage
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October 28th, 2014 at 7:46:08 PM permalink
Played a video blackjack machine at an Indian casino yesterday.

Rules were as followed:

Hit soft 17
Blackjack pays 1:1
No doubles allowed
No splits allowed
No insurance offered
6 cards automatically wins for player(does not apply to dealer)
unknown number of decks.




Any guesses on how high the house advanatage on this game was....ended up winning $25 just playing it for the sheer amusement of how bad the rule set was.
nickolay411
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October 28th, 2014 at 8:45:13 PM permalink
JUST MAKING A GUESS:

If it's single deck I'd say it hovers close to 3%.

If 2 or more decks are used then close to 3.5%

[edit] truly awful rules. YAK!
ChesterDog
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October 28th, 2014 at 9:13:23 PM permalink
Quote: DarkMage

...
Hit soft 17
Blackjack pays 1:1
No doubles allowed
No splits allowed
No insurance offered
6 cards automatically wins for player(does not apply to dealer)
unknown number of decks...


In Wizard Blackjack Rule Variations these effects on the player's EV are listed:
Hit soft 17 = -0.22%
Blackjack pays 1:1 = -2.27%
No doubles allowed = -1.48%
No splits allowed = -0.57%
No insurance offered = 0.00%
6-card Charlie = +0.16%
TOTAL = -4.38%

So, the house edge might be about 4.9% for a 8-deck game or about 4.4% for a single deck game.
Deucekies
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October 28th, 2014 at 9:17:13 PM permalink
Quote: ChesterDog

In Wizard Blackjack Rule Variations these effects on the player's EV are listed:
Hit soft 17 = -0.22%
Blackjack pays 1:1 = -2.27%
No doubles allowed = -1.48%
No splits allowed = -0.57%
No insurance offered = 0.00%
6-card Charlie = +0.16%
TOTAL = -4.38%

So, the house edge might be about 4.9% for a 8-deck game or about 4.4% for a single deck game.


Holy moly. And people play this? Never mind the house advantage, why play a blackjack game that doesn't let you double and split? Seems like if nothing else, it would be more boring. I'm assuming since it's a video machine, it's probably a nickel a hand minimum or something?
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rainman
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October 28th, 2014 at 9:18:55 PM permalink
Quote: DarkMage

Played a video blackjack machine at an Indian casino yesterday.

Rules were as followed:

Hit soft 17
Blackjack pays 1:1
No doubles allowed
No splits allowed
No insurance offered
6 cards automatically wins for player(does not apply to dealer)
unknown number of decks.





Any guesses on how high the house advanatage on this game was....ended up winning $25 just playing it for the sheer amusement of how bad the rule set was.




Lol, this game has every bad rule you could have.
Deucekies
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October 28th, 2014 at 9:29:36 PM permalink
Quote: rainman

Lol, this game has every bad rule you could have.


Get rid of the Charlie and you're there. Unless you're brazen enough to cram Push-22 in there.
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October 29th, 2014 at 2:01:09 AM permalink
Quote: DarkMage


unknown number of decks.



Game info / game rules button usually discloses the number of decks.

If it's single deck, you can do composition dependent strategy for a bit better edge.

The only time this is really viable is if you're playing off free slot play (and your goal is even money, rather than more than even money from the free play), but there are probably better options.
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