wicklunda
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October 14th, 2014 at 11:58:07 PM permalink
What are the odds:

3 people playing 5 card draw, on three successive hands, one player draws 2 pair, but get beat each time:
first by a full house, second by a straight, third by another full house.

(I'd love to see how you figure this if it's not too complex)

Thank you!
kubikulann
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October 22nd, 2014 at 3:00:52 PM permalink
Could you make your question more precise?
Did the player get 2Pair each successive time? What pairs?

On the whole, though, don't bother. It is meaningless to compute odds AFTER the fact, since you single out a situation. It is practically impossible to correctly define the context.
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AxelWolf
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October 22nd, 2014 at 3:47:34 PM permalink
Quote: kubikulann

Could you make your question more precise?
Did the player get 2Pair each successive time? What pairs?

On the whole, though, don't bother. It is meaningless to compute odds AFTER the fact, since you single out a situation. It is practically impossible to correctly define the context.

it sounds like he thinks some cheating going on. So after the fact odds might give him a reason to lean towards a probable answer.
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kubikulann
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October 23rd, 2014 at 5:00:18 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

it sounds like he thinks some cheating going on. So after the fact odds might give him a reason to lean towards a probable answer.

Indeed. It often crops up here, these kind of questions. I understand the goal, I just say you can never have a satisfactory answer.

To put a simple example: imagine someone called to justify a big amount of money say they won the lottery. You suspect some cheating. How to "lean toward a probable answer" ?
Computing the odds will tel you "1 in several million". Is this meaningful to your problem?
Each week there is some winner. The odds of "somebody winning the lottery" is close to certainty. No help either.

Chance happens. Shit happens. Statistical testing can only be done in well-defined before-the-fact protocols, and repetition (aka sample size).
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