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Quote: 1call2many
To calculate the second probability I can ask which coin was chosen? Is it White with white or White with Black (only two coins in bag) so 1/2 is my answer.
The 2/3 answer implies that there are 2/3 ways to draw the white/white coin and only 1/3 ways to draw the white/black coin from a bag?
This is an awesome thread!
The problem is you don't know which coin was chosen---
You could be looking at side 1 of the white/white coin. = other side is white
You could be looking at side 2 of the white/white coin. = other side is white
You could be looking at side 1 of the white/black coin. = other side is black
2 out of 3 will be white.
It took me a little to fully grasp this concept. Thanks to all for explaining their thoughts. Kudos on doing the experiment Icall2many.
The question asked:
You randomly draw one coin and observe one side only which is white. What is the probabilty that the other side of that coin is white? [My emphasis.]
The question many posters thnk was asked but was not:
If you randomly draw a coin and observe one side only as white, what is the probability the other side will be white?
1/1 (given) x 1/2 (two coins) = 50%
3/4 (white sides) x 2/3 (white sides) = 6/12 = 50% chances you would see two white sides chosen randomly
There is never a 2/3 chance of anything.
I present logic to the contrary in my post above, under the question not asked that many thought was.Quote: SonuvabishThere is never a 2/3 chance of anything.
Quote: BleedingChipsSlowlyI present logic to the contrary in my post above, under the question not asked that many thought was.
I read it, but I don't agree. If you are saying you pull both coins out and look only at one, which is always white, then randomly guess which one of three sides is white, then there is a 2/3 chance you are right. Regardless, your thinking is obviously superior to most of the forum!
Quote: JoePloppyThis is an awesome thread!
The problem is you don't know which coin was chosen---
You could be looking at side 1 of the white/white coin. = other side is white
You could be looking at side 2 of the white/white coin. = other side is white
You could be looking at side 1 of the white/black coin. = other side is blackI'm a bigot
Dude, you think there is a greater than 67% chance you chose a random coin out of 2 possible coins? If I have an all white quarter, and a quarter painted white only on heads, and i randomly choose 1, what are the chances I will flip two black tails in a row?
Quote: SonuvabishQuote: JoePloppyThis is an awesome thread!
The problem is you don't know which coin was chosen---
You could be looking at side 1 of the white/white coin. = other side is white
You could be looking at side 2 of the white/white coin. = other side is white
You could be looking at side 1 of the white/black coin. = other side is blackI'm a bigot
Dude, you think there is a greater than 67% chance you chose a random coin out of 2 possible coins? If I have an all white quarter, and a quarter painted white only on heads, and i randomly choose 1, what are the chances I will flip two black tails in a row?
I think you need to reread the question, dude. And for the record, 2/3 is LESS than 67%
Perfencly fine, I'm not always right. Thank you for taking the time to read what I wrote.Quote: SonuvabishI read it, but I don't agree.
I am smart enough to know that that is not true. Several forum members could kick my ass, logically speaking, standing on one foot with one hand tied behind their back. If it's any solice I had to think long and hard about this problem. Actually, the basic logic was presented in another thread I posted to involving the probabilty that a second child would be a boy. Anyway, having spent some time teaching I do think I have a knack for presenting problems in a way that fosters insight.Quote: SonuvabishRegardless, your thinking is obviously superior to most of the forum!
Ok, big boy, let's you and me have it out. At the bar. No pythons, no pit bulls. Smoke if you would like. $100 buyin to make it interesting. We use a sack with two coins, one white on both sides, the other black on one side and white on the other. For each round you wager $3 and I wager $5. An impartial chimp draws one of the coins and slaps it down on the table. If the upside is black it's a push. If the upside is white the flip side decides the winner. If the flip side is white I win your $3. I f the flip side is black you get my $5. Are you in?
No controversy, I'm just a kind old soul that wants to give away my money.Quote: RSIt's 1/2. How is this controversial?