Thinking about moving to Vegas - thoughts?
Quote: DieterOK, I'll bite... where are the relatively cheap groceries?
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WinCo, and they are open 24 hours. Good prices, and that peaceful night shift feeling.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyQuote: DieterOK, I'll bite... where are the relatively cheap groceries?
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WinCo, and they are open 24 hours. Good prices, and that peaceful night shift feeling.
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Fair enough, I've generally heard good things about Winco ("they're like a west coast Aldi"), I just haven't made it in yet.
Quote: billryanI'd recommend renting for the first year or so so you can pinpoint where you want to live.
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Yeah, the downside of renting first is pretty low. I believe you can still rent month to month, though you might want to be armed. But at worse, it would be a 6 month lease for other places. Asking to break your lease to move out early, probably would only cost you an extra months rent.. But of course, you should check the details of doing that with whatever place you might go.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyI don't find it much like Aldi. It just feels like a traditional supermarket, maybe from a few decades back. Best part is the bulk bins, where you can fill up bags with loose grains, spices, beans, pulses, nuts, candies, all product along those lines and it is usually ridiculously cheap compared to buying it packaged. Great if you like to cook, and your recipe calls for one ounce of some exotic ingredient. I recall buying 6 cents worth of an ingredient.
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Very good to know. I remember a co-op grocery with many of those features, back when I lived in one of the hippietowns. It was pretty nice to walk around the corner and just spend the 64 cents on the weird seasonings for some recipe.
I can believe that my source didn't have a reasonable basis for comparison.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyI don't find it much like Aldi. It just feels like a traditional supermarket, maybe from a few decades back. Best part is the bulk bins, where you can fill up bags with loose grains, spices, beans, pulses, nuts, candies, all product along those lines and it is usually ridiculously cheap compared to buying it packaged. Great if you like to cook, and your recipe calls for one ounce of some exotic ingredient. I recall buying 6 cents worth of an ingredient.
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We used to have bulk bins around here but they're long gone. Way too easy to rip off, people would get a bag of expensive coffee and on the bag put the code for something that cost 10 times less. I bet I haven't seen a bulk bin in 20 years.
Quote: DieterOK, I'll bite... where are the relatively cheap groceries?
Wisconsin has Woodman's (and Aldi and Kwik Trip), and this spoils me. I also drive around the country and buy groceries along the way, so I have a bit of context...
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I found groceries to be about 20% cheaper than in NY. Supermarkets pay less rent than in NY, and there seem to be few Union grocery shops.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: calwatchNo state income tax, low property tax (which stays steady or drops due to the unique depreciation structure of assessed value), relatively cheap groceries, don’t need to shovel sunshine, world class dining, big concert acts come to you, and can fly to every major city in North America nonstop. You can hike and ski, and be at the lake or river quickly, although it is nowhere like Southern California beaches. Outside of the tourist areas traffic is reasonable. I think I would personally prefer Northern Nevada when I retire (I currently live in Southern California) but removing the income tax gives you thousands to play with.
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Cheap groceries, seriously? Every single thing you listed I have absolutely no interest in. Hike and ski, fly to every North America City Non-Stop? Pinch me, am I in heaven? Are you joking with all this? These are reasons to move somewhere? Not a single mention of quality of life. It's like this list was written by a 19 year old who has zero experience living a real life.
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YOU might not be interested but these are unique things that differentiate Las Vegas from Denver, Houston, Phoenix, San Antonio, or other cities in that class. Why would anyone move to Louisville or Indianapolis?
Quote: calwatchQuote: EvenBobQuote: calwatchNo state income tax, low property tax (which stays steady or drops due to the unique depreciation structure of assessed value), relatively cheap groceries, don’t need to shovel sunshine, world class dining, big concert acts come to you, and can fly to every major city in North America nonstop. You can hike and ski, and be at the lake or river quickly, although it is nowhere like Southern California beaches. Outside of the tourist areas traffic is reasonable. I think I would personally prefer Northern Nevada when I retire (I currently live in Southern California) but removing the income tax gives you thousands to play with.
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Cheap groceries, seriously? Every single thing you listed I have absolutely no interest in. Hike and ski, fly to every North America City Non-Stop? Pinch me, am I in heaven? Are you joking with all this? These are reasons to move somewhere? Not a single mention of quality of life. It's like this list was written by a 19 year old who has zero experience living a real life.
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YOU might not be interested but these are unique things that differentiate Las Vegas from Denver, Houston, Phoenix, San Antonio, or other cities in that class. Why would anyone move to Louisville or Indianapolis?
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Why would anybody move to any city. The quality of life sucks in cities, that's why everybody's moving to the country I live in the country and this whole area has exploded in the last 10 years because anybody with a halfway decent income who wants to live a normal quality life can't do it in a city.
Quote: billryanQuote: DieterOK, I'll bite... where are the relatively cheap groceries?
Wisconsin has Woodman's (and Aldi and Kwik Trip), and this spoils me. I also drive around the country and buy groceries along the way, so I have a bit of context...
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I found groceries to be about 20% cheaper than in NY. Supermarkets pay less rent than in NY, and there seem to be few Union grocery shops.
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I found groceries in NY to be about 45% overpriced compared to Wisconsin.
Kroger stores (like Smiths) just charge uniformly high prices everywhere, so that's not a useful comparison.
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Why would anybody move to any city. The quality of life sucks in cities, that's why everybody's moving to the country
I believe 85% of the U.S. population lives in cities or suburbs.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: calwatchQuote: EvenBobQuote: calwatchNo state income tax, low property tax (which stays steady or drops due to the unique depreciation structure of assessed value), relatively cheap groceries, don’t need to shovel sunshine, world class dining, big concert acts come to you, and can fly to every major city in North America nonstop. You can hike and ski, and be at the lake or river quickly, although it is nowhere like Southern California beaches. Outside of the tourist areas traffic is reasonable. I think I would personally prefer Northern Nevada when I retire (I currently live in Southern California) but removing the income tax gives you thousands to play with.
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Cheap groceries, seriously? Every single thing you listed I have absolutely no interest in. Hike and ski, fly to every North America City Non-Stop? Pinch me, am I in heaven? Are you joking with all this? These are reasons to move somewhere? Not a single mention of quality of life. It's like this list was written by a 19 year old who has zero experience living a real life.
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YOU might not be interested but these are unique things that differentiate Las Vegas from Denver, Houston, Phoenix, San Antonio, or other cities in that class. Why would anyone move to Louisville or Indianapolis?
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Why would anybody move to any city. The quality of life sucks in cities, that's why everybody's moving to the country I live in the country and this whole area has exploded in the last 10 years because anybody with a halfway decent income who wants to live a normal quality life can't do it in a city.
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I should look into a country house like EB.
Quote: Dieter
I found groceries in NY to be about 45% overpriced compared to Wisconsin.
Kroger stores (like Smiths) just charge uniformly high prices everywhere, so that's not a useful comparison.
In Florida the largest supermarket chain is Publix which is similar to Kroger or Smiths. I rarely shop there as the prices are higher than most other grocery stores. They do have many weekly buy one get one free sales that may tempt me in for a few items but never a full shopping trip.
Quote: DRichQuote: EvenBob
Why would anybody move to any city. The quality of life sucks in cities, that's why everybody's moving to the country
I believe 85% of the U.S. population lives in cities or suburbs.
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In 1900 80% of the population lived on farms. Now it's the opposite and you have runaway depression, runaway crime, runaway drug abuse, all because people evolved not living on top of each other and in each other's way everyday. Every time I go into a city any city I ask myself how can people live here.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: DRichQuote: EvenBob
Why would anybody move to any city. The quality of life sucks in cities, that's why everybody's moving to the country
I believe 85% of the U.S. population lives in cities or suburbs.
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In 1900 80% of the population lived on farms. Now it's the opposite and you have runaway depression, runaway crime, runaway drug abuse, all because people evolved not living on top of each other and in each other's way everyday. Every time I go into a city any city I ask myself how can people live here.
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You said all of the people are moving out of cities. The statistics would say you are incorrect.
Quote: DRichQuote: EvenBobQuote: DRichQuote: EvenBob
Why would anybody move to any city. The quality of life sucks in cities, that's why everybody's moving to the country
I believe 85% of the U.S. population lives in cities or suburbs.
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In 1900 80% of the population lived on farms. Now it's the opposite and you have runaway depression, runaway crime, runaway drug abuse, all because people evolved not living on top of each other and in each other's way everyday. Every time I go into a city any city I ask myself how can people live here.
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You said all of the people are moving out of cities. The statistics would say you are incorrect.
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Cities are too crowded. Nobody lives in them anymore.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: DRichQuote: EvenBob
Why would anybody move to any city. The quality of life sucks in cities, that's why everybody's moving to the country
I believe 85% of the U.S. population lives in cities or suburbs.
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In 1900 80% of the population lived on farms. Now it's the opposite and you have runaway depression, runaway crime, runaway drug abuse, all because people evolved not living on top of each other and in each other's way everyday. Every time I go into a city any city I ask myself how can people live here.
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I agree, but people live in cities because they have to. That's where the jobs are.
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I should look into a country house like EB.
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The 55 gallon drum on the roof is a nice touch. Why is it there and what was it for and how did they get it up there.
Quote: DrawingDeadThere are some folks who actually prefer the company of people to cats. Some people. Strange, but true.
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'I've been around people and I've been around dogs. I prefer dogs." Charles de Gaulle
I feel the same way about cats. I would much rather spend my time with cats than with people, it's not even close. Most people bore the crap out of me in about two minutes. Every once in awhile I meet somebody who I find interesting but they are few and far between. If you are a boring dull person you're probably going to find the company of other dull boring people to be very invigorating to you. And most people are dull and boring, something which I am not.
Quote: EvenBob
I feel the same way about cats. I would much rather spend my time with cats than with people, it's not even close.
Cats also don't correct you when you are wrong.
Quote: DRichQuote: EvenBob
I feel the same way about cats. I would much rather spend my time with cats than with people, it's not even close.
Cats also don't correct you when you are wrong.
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Nothing to correct, my cats think I do nothing wrong.
Quote: DRichQuote: EvenBob
I feel the same way about cats. I would much rather spend my time with cats than with people, it's not even close.
Cats also don't correct you when you are wrong.
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They do provide encouragement to improve if you miss serving their breakfast on time...
