The homeless in North Las Vegas

Quote: bigfoot66

It does not describe the reality of homelessness.

Their reality is most of them are self
made. They've been working at being
homeless since high school. Drugs,
burning bridges, getting fired from
jobs, being lazy and stupid, doing
time. This describes 90% of the so
called 'homeless'. We just called
them losers.

There was an Andy Griffith Show
episode over 50 years ago where
Opie made friends with a homeless
guy, but they were called hobo's then.
Opie felt sorry for him, Andy put a
stop to it by offering him a job and
seeing him head for the hills. Quaint,
but some things never change.

Quote: EvenBob

Their reality is most of them are self
made. They've been working at being
homeless since high school. Drugs,
burning bridges, getting fired from
jobs, being lazy and stupid, doing
time. This describes 90% of the so
called 'homeless'. We just called
them losers.

There was an Andy Griffith Show
episode over 50 years ago where
Opie made friends with a homeless
guy, but they were called hobo's then.
Opie felt sorry for him, Andy put a
stop to it by offering him a job and
seeing him head for the hills. Quaint,
but some things never change.

+1

Quote: rudeboyoi

When I got out of prison (I was mostly in jail but spent 5 days in prison) a homeless person gave me bus fare.

He was secretly an undercover COP.

They need a bring a homeless to work day.

Quote: mickeycrimm

You have no clue The homeless are so domicile. The crooks all have roofs over their heads.

I think you mean docile, since your statement literally means the homeless are so permanent home. The homeless can be aggressive and demanding; they can appear docile when they want.

Quote: EvenBob

Their reality is most of them are self
made. They've been working at being
homeless since high school. Drugs,
burning bridges, getting fired from
jobs, being lazy and stupid, doing
time. This describes 90% of the so
called 'homeless'. We just called
them losers.

There was an Andy Griffith Show
episode over 50 years ago where
Opie made friends with a homeless
guy, but they were called hobo's then.
Opie felt sorry for him, Andy put a
stop to it by offering him a job and
seeing him head for the hills. Quaint,
but some things never change.

I came to your town,. And yes I was a homeless drifter. But I proposed myself to be the hardest working man in show business to you. I told you that no matter how hard the work was I would do it for. What do you need around here, a ditch to be dug? What do you want me to do, do you want me to stack these hundred pound boxes? Do you want me to carrry a sixty pound basin up 12 flights of stairs? Do you want me to shovel gravel? You just tell me what your hump job is. I'm your huckleberry. And while you are calling me the biggest piece of shit, I will tote your hundred pound form boards up into sthe ide of a mountainn 9700 feet above sea level. Have you ever toted hundred pound form boards into or out of a pit at 9700 feet elevation? And you tell the man thats paying you that he is just a little punk? You squares have never been anywhere your whole goddam life. But I have. Yes, Im pushing 62 years now, but don't look for me to fold.

Quote: mickeycrimm

I came to your town,. And yes I was a homeless drifter. But I proposed myself to be the hardest working man in show business to you. I told you that no matter how hard the work was I would do it for. What do you need around here, a ditch to be dug? What do you want me to do, do you want me to stack these hundred pound boxes? Do you want me to carrry a sixty pound basin up 12 flights of stairs? Do you want me to shovel gravel? You just tell me what your hump job is. I'm your huckleberry. And while you are calling me the biggest piece of shit, I will tote your hundred pound form boards up into sthe ide of a mountainn 9700 feet above sea level. Have you ever toted hundred pound form boards into or out of a pit at 9700 feet elevation? And you tell the man thats paying you that he is just a little punk? You squares have never been anywhere your whole goddam life. But I have. Yes, Im pushing 62 years now, but don't look for me to fold.

This is how I feel right now. I got laid off my last job a year ago. I've worked for a local union since, basically getting scraps. With them I get 1 maybe 2 gigs a month. I call in every day for work. I've worked with them off and on for 12 years, but never steady because the hours were never there. I took classes on my own time through the company, but I never was able to get any additional work because of them.

I took on odd jobs, tree trimming, small moving company (run by 1 guy, 2 full time employees), and other odd jobs.
I keep filling out applications and doing interviews. My car just started having problems, so it's only getting worse. It sucks, but I haven't given up. I just filled out an application for O'Rillly's, because at this point I'm willing to do anything.

Previously I was a Supervisor for a Customer Care center in San Diego for a Telephone, Internet and Cable company. It was a decent enough job to pay the bills as a single Dad, while going part time to community college.

Now I feel like an absolute scumbag. The only income is my pregnant fiance and our child is due in a month and a half.

I don't really drink (only when at her brother's house for a football game), haven't been to a bar in months, haven't gambled since I've worked except for one occasion and it was $50 of birthday money. Cut my cable, only keep my phone on for internet service and call backs for work. I tried to cut any extra non essential expenditures from my life.

Manual labor is hard on me because of a car accident when I was younger, but I don't let the pain stop me from taking any job that comes my way.

I'm not sharing this for pity, but rather to illustrate how easily it is for some to hit hard times. I didn't come from money so I had to pay for school on my own. Luckly the company I worked for helped reimburse me for some expenses. But I lost that job before I could even get close to completing school.

It's hard sometimes guys. I fear where I might end up. I can't go to the dentist or doctor because of lack of health care. I don't even have money to sign up for the ACA. Unemployment ran out quick. I know if it came down to it her parents would help take care of her and the baby, but what does that make me? What am I already? Who wants that?

I just want the opportunity to provide for me and my family. I don't want a free ride. I don't want a hand out. I just want a job and the piece of mind that I'm being a good provider for my wife and baby

I may be way off base, but it seems some of you have never faced that Earth shattering fear before. It's not always drugs, booze and bad decisions. For me it was simply already being in debt from a previous (and young) marriage, coupled with losing and not being able to find steady employment.

But I hold out hope. I look for new opportunities where I can. I keep applying for new jobs. And I make the best of what I can.

Hey BD,

I admire you for your efforts. And welcome to the forum.

Quote: Greasyjohn

Hey BD,

I admire you for your efforts. And welcome to the forum.

Thanks GJ.

And for everyone else, I apologize for grammatical mistakes. My laptop died a 2 weeks ago (got 7 years out of it, not bad), so I'm on my phone. Sometimes it's hard to see spelling errors, incorrect syntax, or completely wrong words because of auto check, in that tiny little box that scrolls along as you type.

Quote: Sonuvabish

I don't agree. Took this criminal law class. Burglary and arson were the topic. People were arguing if you "break-in" to a homeless man's cardboard box, steal worthless junk, then set his box on fire, you've committed burglary and felony arson. I, on the other hand, was of the opinion that cardboard boxes are not dwellings, and that people do not have the right to take up residence on public streets.

We have vagrancy and loitering laws. You're not free to be homeless. Not everyone can live a great lifestyle, or even a mediocre one. But there are ways to keep off the streets. In my humble opinion, most homeless people either ignore or are ignorant of what they should do. They choose not to deal with the man, and panhandle or steal instead.

But without a permit, you're not free to be homeless. It's tolerated, much like speeding. It happens so much, they aren't 100% strict about the limits.

I don't think it's against the law to be homeless. Vagrancy maybe.

Quote: pew

I don't think it's against the law to be homeless. Vagrancy maybe.

Homeless itself probably not illegal, squatting on the property of others including public might be. Vagrancy seems a thin charge to roust undesirables.

Quote: pew

I don't think it's against the law to be homeless. Vagrancy maybe.

Vagrancy and loitering are very broad, and pretty much encompass homelessness. Not strictly enforced, and a bad lawyer or a clever homeless person can usually beat the charge. Many areas are specifically targeting the homeless making it specifically illegal, by enacting no lodging outdoors laws, so it's not illegal only if they never sleep. Most homeless people don't die of starvation, and begging is part of the lifestyle--that's also illegal. Maybe in a sense being homeless isn't illegal, but practically speaking, it is. There are homeless shelters. Society prefers homeless people in those places rather than the streets, just like it prefers insane people in institutions rather than roaming around at large. It's not safe for them to mix, nor do they belong. Sounds cold, but it's the reality and it need not be permanent for any particular individual.

Quote: mickeycrimm

You have no clue The homeless are so domicile.

No doubt many are quiet, mind their own business, "just leave me alone" folk.

But not all, as you well know.

See: FTRA .

I knew a road tramp for awhile who sometimes told me about his life riding the rails.

Funny, this guy (a tall, thin Indian who left the rez in S.D.) never worked at a regular job that I saw; he was always nice to me, worked leather and bone to create small items, and was occasionally murderous, per his own report and that of a witness.

He and his lady partner never bragged about the violence they encountered while riding the BNSF or staying in homeless camps, but in passing referred to having killed at least one tramp, and I absolutely believed him/them.

I first learned of FTRA from him; he was a "member."

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Quote: MrV

No doubt many are quiet, mind their own business, "just leave me alone" folk.

But not all, as you well know.

See: FTRA .

I knew a road tramp for awhile who sometimes told me about his life riding the rails.

Funny, this guy (a tall, thin Indian who left the rez in S.D.) never worked at a regular job that I saw; he was always nice to me, worked leather and bone to create small items, and was occasionally murderous, per his own report and that of a witness.

He and his lady partner never bragged about the violence they encountered while riding the BNSF or staying in homeless camps, but in passing referred to having killed at least one tramp, and I absolutely believed him/them.

I first learned of FTRA from him; he was a "member."

What may I ask brought you to know this occasionally murderous man?

I've heard that riding the rails is extremely dangerous. Young adventurers who think they're emulating the Woody Guthrie lifestyle, read up on the dangers.

Quote: rainman

What may I ask brought you to know this occasionally murderous man?

Fate, I suppose.

Quote: MrV

No doubt many are quiet, mind their own business, "just leave me alone" folk.

But not all, as you well know.

See: FTRA .

I knew a road tramp for awhile who sometimes told me about his life riding the rails.

Funny, this guy (a tall, thin Indian who left the rez in S.D.) never worked at a regular job that I saw; he was always nice to me, worked leather and bone to create small items, and was occasionally murderous, per his own report and that of a witness.

He and his lady partner never bragged about the violence they encountered while riding the BNSF or staying in homeless camps, but in passing referred to having killed at least one tramp, and I absolutely believed him/them.

I first learned of FTRA from him; he was a "member."

I knew members of the FTRA when I was riding the rails. They were identified by black bandanas around their necks. But they eventually quit wearing the bandanas because it was automatic arrest. I also knew about Sidetrack and I swore I would kill him if I ever ran into him. Whenever I got rousted by the railroad cops or the police I told them about Sidetrack. We all wanted that bastard to hang. He would kill you for your sleeping bag or boots, anything he thought he could use. They finally caught the nit in the Roseville yard outside Sacramento. That was in 1996 and it was right at the end of my train riding days.

http://murderpedia.org/male.S/s/silveria-robert.htm

Quote: mickeycrimm

Have you ever toted hundred pound form boards into or out of a pit at 9700 feet elevation?.

There was a construction boom in Summit County, Colorado that lasted at least a couple of decades. Summit County has the highest concentration of ski resorts in the country. Frisco is the county seat and the surrounding towns are Silverthorne, Dylan, Breckenridge, Keystone. All the towns are 9000+ feet above sea level. The county has a free bus system. I found the place in 1984. It was on my summer route during my bumming around days. Day laborers made twice as much as downstream. I would usually thumb I-70 to Summit County.

One of the jobs I did up there was toting hundred pound form boards. When they layed a foundation for a home many of them had concrete stem walls. I would knock the form boards off the wall then pick them up and carry them up out of the pit and have to throw them up on a truck bed. Its the hardest day labor job there is. Not to many could do it. I made them pay me $12 an hour to do it.

And I also knew that while I was doing the hardest work in America, guys like Evenbob and Sonuvabish, two guys that couldn't last an hour on a job like that, were calling me a bum.

Quote: mickeycrimm

You squares have never been anywhere your whole goddam life. But I have.

So you say. And have said. That and a dollar
will get you coffee at McD's.

Quote: EvenBob

So you say. And have said. That and a dollar
will get you coffee at McD's.

Go take a look in the mirror. The same for your life, Bob.

Quote: Ayecarumba

Is there something attracting the homeless to that particular area? Food? Shelter? Security? If not, wouldn't the optimal strategy be to spread out as much as possible to avoid competition for scarce resources?

What you are talking about is the basic strategy (BS).
But those the OP encountered are APs, they know that under certain conditions, if they stay together, their chance of getting free stuff is higher.

Quote: pokerface

What you are talking about is the basic strategy (BS).
But those the OP encountered are APs, they know that under certain conditions, if they stay together, their chance of is higher.

It's for the same reason anyone else joins a union, strength in numbers


"getting free stuff" At what price?

Something else I've heard someone say is that the only regular job they ever kept was decades ago in a skid road bar for just about a year. Something else that's been said a time or two, or twenty, or two-hundred, is someone threatening to beat somebody up whenever the someone feels in some vague way disrespected or being told what to do by someone else. Dozens of times that I've seen, and probably hundreds that I haven't. Which is kind of a rare thing for anyone to be looking for when they put together a job description.

Something else that can sometimes be a little bit of a factor for some people is being drunk for one's entire life, with all the painful damage to the brain and body that someone goes through when one is dying from alcoholism. The kind of damage that for many people I've known leads them to increasing episodes of incomprehensible fear and anger and sometimes erupting and threatening to beat up people. Unfortunately most of those people are dead now. In the 26 years since my last drunk some of those now dead drunks were people I knew well and was close to, and I came to believe some of them were good people, if not for that thing; while plenty of others probably not so good at all in my opinion whether drunk or not, got equally dead, unfair as that is.

Though some others did not quite get dead from it or eventually afflicted with such bad "wet brain" (look it up) that they might as well be, because while that's an elevator that only goes in one direction, you can get off on any floor along the way. But maybe, just maybe, that could be kinda a little bit of sumpin' that's had sumpin' to do with sumpin' for someone, somewhere, just maybe. Maybe even someone we know. And maybe if it does, they don't exactly say so, they prefer to pick some parts, little bits that may be true but not exactly relevant, for the main picture they want to go with. 'Cause that's a scary thing, even to a rough tough guy, who can beat people up.

But back to the regularly scheduled ideological graffiti pimping people to serve the assorted progressofascist political religions here.

Quote: mickeycrimm

q]One of the jobs I did up there was toting hundred pound form boards.

Well at least they gave you the little ones. If they was just hundred pounder's we let the girls pack 'em.

It's just more proof to me you can't sing. Hobo would have known what to do.

Quote: petroglyph

Well at least they gave you the little ones. If they was just hundred pounder's we let the girls pack 'em.

It's just more proof to me you can't sing. Hobo would have known what to do.

I actually get qute a bit of applause on karaoke nights. I do tough songs like 'dead flowers."

Quote: DrawingDead

Something else I've heard someone say is that the only regular job they ever kept was decades ago in a skid road bar for just about a year. Something else that's been said a time or two, or twenty, or two-hundred, is someone threatening to beat somebody up whenever the someone feels in some vague way disrespected or being told what to do by someone else. Dozens of times that I've seen, and probably hundreds that I haven't. Which is kind of a rare thing for anyone to be looking for when they put together a job description.

Something else that can sometimes be a little bit of a factor for some people is being drunk for one's entire life, with all the painful damage to the brain and body that someone goes through when one is dying from alcoholism. The kind of damage that for many people I've known leads them to increasing episodes of incomprehensible fear and anger and sometimes erupting and threatening to beat up people. Unfortunately most of those people are dead now. In the 26 years since my last drunk some of those now dead drunks were people I knew well and was close to, and I came to believe some of them were good people, if not for that thing; while plenty of others probably not so good at all in my opinion whether drunk or not, got equally dead, unfair as that is.

Though some others did not quite get dead from it or eventually afflicted with such bad "wet brain" (look it up) that they might as well be, because while that's an elevator that only goes in one direction, you can get off on any floor along the way. But maybe, just maybe, that could be kinda a little bit of sumpin' that's had sumpin' to do with sumpin' for someone, somewhere, just maybe. Maybe even someone we know. And maybe if it does, they don't exactly say so, they prefer to pick some parts, little bits that may be true but not exactly relevant, for the main picture they want to go with. 'Cause that's a scary thing, even to a rough tough guy, who can beat people up.

But back to the regularly scheduled ideological graffiti pimping people to serve the assorted progressofascist political religions here.

Reformers are the worst kind. As for the homeless being rough around the edges Benny Binion said it best. Tough times make tough people. You can't be a homeless drifter without being tough. I'm to old to be a tough guy anymore. But I still have the mentality.

Quote: DrawingDead

Something else I've heard someone say is that the only regular job they ever kept was decades ago in a skid road bar for just about a year. Something else that's been said a time or two, or twenty, or two-hundred, is someone threatening to beat somebody up whenever the someone feels in some vague way disrespected or being told what to do by someone else. Dozens of times that I've seen, and probably hundreds that I haven't. Which is kind of a rare thing for anyone to be looking for when they put together a job description.

Something else that can sometimes be a little bit of a factor for some people is being drunk for one's entire life, with all the painful damage to the brain and body that someone goes through when one is dying from alcoholism. The kind of damage that for many people I've known leads them to increasing episodes of incomprehensible fear and anger and sometimes erupting and threatening to beat up people. Unfortunately most of those people are dead now. In the 26 years since my last drunk some of those now dead drunks were people I knew well and was close to, and I came to believe some of them were good people, if not for that thing; while plenty of others probably not so good at all in my opinion whether drunk or not, got equally dead, unfair as that is.

Though some others did not quite get dead from it or eventually afflicted with such bad "wet brain" (look it up) that they might as well be, because while that's an elevator that only goes in one direction, you can get off on any floor along the way. But maybe, just maybe, that could be kinda a little bit of sumpin' that's had sumpin' to do with sumpin' for someone, somewhere, just maybe. Maybe even someone we know. And maybe if it does, they don't exactly say so, they prefer to pick some parts, little bits that may be true but not exactly relevant, for the main picture they want to go with. 'Cause that's a scary thing, even to a rough tough guy, who can beat people up.

But back to the regularly scheduled ideological graffiti pimping people to serve the assorted progressofascist political religions here.

When my favorite great uncle, Alvin Gill, died they found a mountain of empty whiskey bottles in his back yard. My grandmother's response "the poor man drank himself to death."

My thoughts: Thats right, grandma. He drank himself to death. Hell, he was only 84. What a shame.

Quote: mickeycrimm

I actually get qute a bit of applause on karaoke nights. I do tough songs like 'dead flowers."

Well of course they give you applause. What else they going to do when you are buying them drinks, and threatening to kick their ass if they don't? Sheesh no brainer there. lol

If I could play a little and sing a little, I would sing this for my son. http://youtu.be/sHQ_aTjXObs

I'm pretty sure my kids will sing this for me. http://youtu.be/U2t4XpeEuXA , heck they do now.

Quote: petroglyph

Well of course they give you applause. What else they going to do when you are buying them drinks, and threatening to kick their ass if they don't? Sheesh no brainer there. lol.

Yeah. I know. Karaoke is people who shouldnt be singing to people who shouldnt be drinking.

Quote: mickeycrimm

Yeah. I know. Karaoke is people who shouldnt be singing to people who shouldnt be drinking.

"Oh the friends you can buy, with small change" JJCale Money Talks http://youtu.be/NSsmvdqDFuE

Quote: DrawingDead

Something else that can sometimes be a little bit of a factor for some people is being drunk for one's entire life, with all the painful damage to the brain and body that someone goes through when one is dying from alcoholism. The kind of damage that for many people I've known leads them to increasing episodes of incomprehensible fear and anger and sometimes erupting and threatening to beat up people. Unfortunately most of those people are dead now. In the 26 years since my last drunk some of those now dead drunks were people I knew well and was close to, and I came to believe some of them were good people, if not for that thing; while plenty of others probably not so good at all in my opinion whether drunk or not, got equally dead, unfair as that is.

Early death visits more folks than just the alcoholics.

I got a call a few years ago from a gal I ran with back in the mid-70's.

She said she was surprised to find me alive and well; she said "most of the people we knew are dead."

Murder, car wreck, O.D., suicide: I guess that's what south Jersey does to you.

Life is a gift: enjoy it while you can.

Quote: mickeycrimm

Karaoke is people who shouldnt be singing to people who shouldnt be drinking.

Great quote mickeycrimm.

Quote: BoulderDamIt

This is how I feel right now. I got laid off my last job a year ago. I've worked for a local union since, basically getting scraps. With them I get 1 maybe 2 gigs a month. I call in every day for work. I've worked with them off and on for 12 years, but never steady because the hours were never there. I took classes on my own time through the company, but I never was able to get any additional work because of them.

I took on odd jobs, tree trimming, small moving company (run by 1 guy, 2 full time employees), and other odd jobs.
I keep filling out applications and doing interviews. My car just started having problems, so it's only getting worse. It sucks, but I haven't given up. I just filled out an application for O'Rillly's, because at this point I'm willing to do anything.

Previously I was a Supervisor for a Customer Care center in San Diego for a Telephone, Internet and Cable company. It was a decent enough job to pay the bills as a single Dad, while going part time to community college.

Now I feel like an absolute scumbag. The only income is my pregnant fiance and our child is due in a month and a half.

I don't really drink (only when at her brother's house for a football game), haven't been to a bar in months, haven't gambled since I've worked except for one occasion and it was $50 of birthday money. Cut my cable, only keep my phone on for internet service and call backs for work. I tried to cut any extra non essential expenditures from my life.

Manual labor is hard on me because of a car accident when I was younger, but I don't let the pain stop me from taking any job that comes my way.

I'm not sharing this for pity, but rather to illustrate how easily it is for some to hit hard times. I didn't come from money so I had to pay for school on my own. Luckly the company I worked for helped reimburse me for some expenses. But I lost that job before I could even get close to completing school.

It's hard sometimes guys. I fear where I might end up. I can't go to the dentist or doctor because of lack of health care. I don't even have money to sign up for the ACA. Unemployment ran out quick. I know if it came down to it her parents would help take care of her and the baby, but what does that make me? What am I already? Who wants that?

I just want the opportunity to provide for me and my family. I don't want a free ride. I don't want a hand out. I just want a job and the piece of mind that I'm being a good provider for my wife and baby

I may be way off base, but it seems some of you have never faced that Earth shattering fear before. It's not always drugs, booze and bad decisions. For me it was simply already being in debt from a previous (and young) marriage, coupled with losing and not being able to find steady employment.

But I hold out hope. I look for new opportunities where I can. I keep applying for new jobs. And I make the best of what I can.

Where do you live( What city)?

I really felt that was one of the most honest sincerest things I seen in a while.

If you don't want to say publicly you can contact me via PM.

Quote: mickeycrimm

My thoughts: Thats right, grandma. He drank himself to death. Hell, he was only 84. What a shame.

It was a slow, painless death, started 40
years before he actually perished. WC
Fields sends his condolences..

Quote: EvenBob

It was a slow, painless death, started 40
years before he actually perished. WC
Fields sends his condolences..

In your wild imagination, Bob. You never met my uncle Alvin. I knew him and I know what a great man we was. W.C. Fields sends all his condolences to your family to you true ass rube.

Quote: EvenBob

It was a slow, painless death, started 40
years before he actually perished. WC
Fields sends his condolences..

You are one sick individual. The sickest kind. The dumbest old man I've ever cross across. Explain to me all the deaths in your immedate family. They were all drug addicts, right? Thats the attitude upi have. Evenbob's family is a bunch of drug addicts. Ain't that the truth. Bob? Why don't you explain all the drug addicts in your family that you have had to bury to us.

No, your piece of shit famiiy is better than us. Ain't that right, Bob?

You are a born and raised piece of shit. Even so that I'm going to change my tagline.

Quote: mickeycrimm

You are one sick individual. The sickest kind. The dumbest old man I've ever cross across. Explain to me all the deaths in your immedate family. They were all drug addicts, right? Thats the attitude upi have. Evenbob's family is a bunch of drug addicts. Ain't that the truth. Bob? Why don't you explain all the drug addicts in your family that you have had to bury to us.

No, your piece of shit famiiy is better than us. Ain't that right, Bob?

You are a born and raised piece of shit. Even so that I'm going to change my tagline.

Isn't it ironic that Bob turned you onto the liquor that's certainly going to get you a timeout.

Quote: AxelWolf

Isn't it ironic that Bob turned you onto the liquor that's certainly going to get you a timeout.

No, I switched back. I've been on the Black Velvet tonight. But I won't change my opinion drunk or sober. Bob is a creep.

Quote: MrV

Early death visits more folks than just the alcoholics.

I got a call a few years ago from a gal I ran with back in the mid-70's.

She said she was surprised to find me alive and well; she said "most of the people we knew are dead."

Murder, car wreck, O.D., suicide: I guess that's what south Jersey does to you.

Life is a gift: enjoy it while you can.

I wholeheartedly agree, MrV. Great sentiment for today and every day.

Some do choose homelessness, aka Buddha

Quote:

So, at a later time, while still young, a black-haired young man endowed with the blessings of youth in the first stage of life—and while my parents, unwilling, were crying with tears streaming down their faces—I shaved off my hair & beard, put on the ochre robe and went forth from the home life into homelessness.

Quote: EvenBob

It was a slow, painless death, started 40
years before he actually perished. WC
Fields sends his condolences..

No, he bought a ticket to die the moment he was born, Bob. The same as you.

Quote: mickeycrimm

You are one sick individual. The sickest kind. The dumbest old man I've ever cross across. Explain to me all the deaths in your immedate family. They were all drug addicts, right? Thats the attitude upi have. Evenbob's family is a bunch of drug addicts. Ain't that the truth. Bob? Why don't you explain all the drug addicts in your family that you have had to bury to us.

No, your piece of shit famiiy is better than us. Ain't that right, Bob?

You are a born and raised piece of shit. Even so that I'm going to change my tagline.

Personal insult. 7 days. mick, you need a Breathalyzer on your keyboard.

Quote: HowMany

Great quote mickeycrimm.

This one caught me off guard.

After some consideration, I realized this is too literate for mc.

http://www.cestwhat.com/karaoke-bars-combine-two-nations-greatest-evils-people-who-shouldnt-drink-people-who-shouldnt-sing-t

Quote: beachbumbabs

Personal insult. 7 days. mick, you need a Breathalyzer on your keyboard.

"No exit" freudian slip: mc doing karaoke to himself?

Funny (as in "this meat smells funny") how so many people get suspended responding to EB.

Heck, he got me early on, too.

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Funny (as in "this meat smells funny") how so many people get suspended responding to EB.

Heck, he got me early on, too.

My hands are tied in this case by the rules. But I have some latitude in sentencing.

Being drunk is no excuse but he is a funny sob. Not unique, not special, but funny in a warped (I feel kind of guilty laughing) way. I've known a few like him in my time.

Mick is okay.

He's An Original.

The world needs more Originals.

There should be a sub-rule that you can only be suspended 3 days for insulting EB no matter how vile. The insults are generally true statements.