Sneaking into pools
June 1st, 2010 at 1:59:36 AM
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Not that I would ever condone such an activity...but just purely for discussion's sake, how stringently do Vegas hotels enforce their pool policies? Are there at least some pools that are fairly easy to get into if you're not a hotel guest?
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June 1st, 2010 at 2:22:28 AM
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a lot of pools you arent allowed to go to unless youre staying at the hotel. to get around this, you say you want to eat or gamble outside. they then give you a wristband to go to just that area. when no one is looking, you rip it off and go to the pool.
June 1st, 2010 at 4:46:13 AM
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The general pool party area has a different colored wrist band. People without wrist bands get approached by security (at least they do on that TV series Rehab at the Hard Rock or whatever it was. Frankly the 35.00 admission is so low compared to the booze and tipping that if you can't afford the entry fee you won't enjoy the party at all.Quote: rudeboyoithey then give you a wristband to go to just that area. when no one is looking, you rip it off and go to the pool.
June 1st, 2010 at 5:32:45 AM
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I don't know much about it, but some locals have turned getting into the casino pools for free into an art form. It used to be that they had nice collections of room keys, and just flashed the one for the pool they desired to go to. Now a lot of places run the key through a reader. The pool crashers are either limited to the places that don't run the card through a reader (I think the Venetian doesn't), or have some new trick. Maybe entering through an infrequently used entrance. For example the Red Rock pool has a side entrance directly from the hotel elevator. I think you need a key to operate the elevator, but the astute crasher could just wait for a legitimate guest to get in first.
Sorry if I'm teaching a course on trespassing. I don't condone it either.
Sorry if I'm teaching a course on trespassing. I don't condone it either.
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June 1st, 2010 at 7:13:22 AM
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I wonder why the casinos witht eh nicer pool don't simply sell day tickets to locals and other interested parties. Say $5 or $10 for all day access to the pool.
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June 1st, 2010 at 8:16:20 AM
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Not a bad idea. They would probably charge more than that, like $25. We locals are given the cold shoulder by our own casinos all the time, which is probably why we are not welcome at the pools at any price short of the cost of a room.
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June 1st, 2010 at 8:25:15 AM
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Quote: WizardNot a bad idea. They would probably charge more than that, like $25. We locals are given the cold shoulder by our own casinos all the time, which is probably why we are not welcome at the pools at any price short of the cost of a room.
I'm assuming the proportion of smart gamblers among vegas locals is probably higher than among most other groups, in particualr Vgeas tourists. Naturally the casinos don't want you.
Really I can't see the Bellagio opening up its pool to the commoners, but at slow times and for the more moedst hotels it may be a fair source of extra revenue, especially if they raise prices on the pool snackbars a little.
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June 1st, 2010 at 8:36:41 AM
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Really? I would have thought that if the hotels are busy screwing their guests with stupid 'resort fees' that they'd be happy to collect the same from locals who wish to use the resort.Quote: WizardNot a bad idea. They would probably charge more than that, like $25. We locals are given the cold shoulder by our own casinos all the time, which is probably why we are not welcome at the pools at any price short of the cost of a room.
If that's not the case, then it seems to me that it could be a case of false advertising if a resort tacks on a resort fee without offering that same resort usage and fee to people that aren't guests.
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June 1st, 2010 at 8:37:30 AM
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To play the devil's advocate, casino pools can be very crowded on a hot day when the hotel is near capacity. At the Mandalay Bay a line will form to get into the pool about an hour before it opens sometimes, to ensure getting a coveted lounge chair. It would make things even more miserable for paying guests to sell tickets to locals. Yes, maybe they could sell tickets only on slow days only, but it is hard to predict exactly when the slow days will be. It would cause ill will to sell tickets on a limited basis, because locals would invariably show up all the time, and get angry if turned away because the pool was already too crowded.
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June 1st, 2010 at 8:58:00 AM
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Quote: WizardYes, maybe they could sell tickets only on slow days only, but it is hard to predict exactly when the slow days will be. It would cause ill will to sell tickets on a limited basis, because locals would invariably show up all the time, and get angry if turned away because the pool was already too crowded.
Well, then. That's the reason casinos don't sell pool access to non-guests.
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June 1st, 2010 at 8:59:35 AM
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BTW Vegas has very good pool weather. SO the question is, what alternatives do locals have as far as pools are concerned? Public pools? Private clubs? Private pools? Water parks nearby? Lake Mead?
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June 1st, 2010 at 10:07:47 AM
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Quote: NareedBTW Vegas has very good pool weather. SO the question is, what alternatives do locals have as far as pools are concerned? Public pools? Private clubs? Private pools? Water parks nearby? Lake Mead?
There are some public pools. For example, Summerlin has community pools at the Willows and Trails parks. Some recreation centers have pools, like the one at Desert Breeze park. Even dumpy apartment complexes will usually have pools, as they are practically a necessity here in Summer. I'm not familiar with any private pools here, except those serving a particular neighborhood community. The only water park, Wet-n-Wild, sadly closed around 2002. The owners of the land wanted to put a casino or condo there instead, but never did. It is really a shame. I wish somebody would build a new one. Just another example of how dysfunctional Vegas is. Lake Mead is about an hour drive each way for the average Vegas resident, and isn't pleasant to swim in. The beaches and bottom are rocky and the water is smelly. I'm sure it is fun for boating, and is nice to look at from a distance, but Lake Mead is overrated in my opinion.
Here is a money making idea for the Vegas public schools, which are always complaining about funding. Open up the high school pools during the summer for some reasonable entry fee.
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June 1st, 2010 at 10:45:59 AM
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There are a few pools that allow access to non-guests usually for a fee but some of the off strip casinos it can be free.
Las vegas advisor notates it in their cool pool section and I've paid to swim @ the Gold Nugget (worth it).
Las vegas advisor notates it in their cool pool section and I've paid to swim @ the Gold Nugget (worth it).
June 1st, 2010 at 10:55:02 AM
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Quote: Wizard
Here is a money making idea for the Vegas public schools, which are always complaining about funding. Open up the high school pools during the summer for some reasonable entry fee.
The high schools in my hometown (Mankato, MN) did this when I was growing up. The fee was about half of the cost at one of the outdoor public pools in town (at the time, $2.75 versus $5). That ratio seems about right to me. You'd be giving up the sunlight for closer proximity and a lower fee.
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June 1st, 2010 at 11:03:34 AM
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Quote: rdw4potusThe high schools in my hometown (Mankato, MN) did this when I was growing up. The fee was about half of the cost at one of the outdoor public pools in town (at the time, $2.75 versus $5). That ratio seems about right to me. You'd be giving up the sunlight for closer proximity and a lower fee.
I guess the high school pools would be indoors up there. Here, and at my own Los Alamitos High School in southern California, they are outdoors. I haven't heard Mankato mentioned since the last time the Ingals family made one of their many errands there on Little House on the Prairie.
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June 3rd, 2010 at 4:34:14 PM
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Quote: WizardI guess the high school pools would be indoors up there. Here, and at my own Los Alamitos High School in southern California, they are outdoors. I haven't heard Mankato mentioned since the last time the Ingals family made one of their many errands there on Little House on the Prairie.
Wizard, i see you went to Los Alamitos HS, by any chance did you know Rod Halbrook? He may be a few years older than you but after playing football at Los Alamitos, played at UCLA. Obscure and off topic from sneaking into pools, but he was a teacher of mine in high school and was curious.
June 3rd, 2010 at 8:22:33 PM
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Quote: BigRoss71Wizard, i see you went to Los Alamitos HS, by any chance did you know Rod Halbrook? He may be a few years older than you but after playing football at Los Alamitos, played at UCLA. Obscure and off topic from sneaking into pools, but he was a teacher of mine in high school and was curious.
No, never heard of him. I graduated in 83, BTW. Even if we were in the same class I didn't know many of the athletes, preferring the company of the other computer geeks instead.
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June 3rd, 2010 at 8:24:09 PM
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There were computers back when you were my age?
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June 3rd, 2010 at 9:03:22 PM
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Quote: ahiromuThere were computers back when you were my age?
Sorry, couldn't help myself.
Yes, I took computer programming just after the school purchased about a dozen Apple II computers. Before that I don't know what they used, but kids walked around the school with shoe boxes full of punch cards.
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June 4th, 2010 at 9:49:08 AM
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Quote: WizardYes, I took computer programming just after the school purchased about a dozen Apple II computers. Before that I don't know what they used, but kids walked around the school with shoe boxes full of punch cards.
my dad went to college for computer science from 1970-1975. i can only imagine how archaic the technology must have been back then. he used to use an IBM 360 with punch cards.
June 4th, 2010 at 9:56:47 AM
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Quote: WizardYes, I took computer programming just after the school purchased about a dozen Apple II computers. Before that I don't know what they used, but kids walked around the school with shoe boxes full of punch cards.
I had an Apple IIe at home. What's more unbelievable is I had another one at work, and it actually processed the monthly books and calculated payrolls. It didn't even have a hard drive!
Well, at least I never had to learn to use a slide rule.
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June 4th, 2010 at 10:15:25 AM
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My usual (truthful) comments on my early days in computers go like this: While working on my first degree, I took every computer-related course the college offered -- all 1 semester hour. The college's mainframe computer was powered down at the end of the work day. Any student who knew how to program and operate it could go in, crank it up, and run it for as long as they wanted. There were maybe 8 or 10 students on campus who knew how. The computer was an IBM 1620.
My first (and only) job as a programmer/operator was at a Navy facility near Charleston, SC. The computer (an IBM 1401) had three components: a card reader/puncher, a CPU, and a high-speed printer. The CPU was close to 6 feet tall, 5 feet wide, and 2.5 or 3 feet deep. It had 4K of RAM and no mass storage other than punched cards.
No, these machines did not involve programming by setting mechanical relays nor "bugs" that really were insects gumming up the works. What? Did you think I was old or something?
My first (and only) job as a programmer/operator was at a Navy facility near Charleston, SC. The computer (an IBM 1401) had three components: a card reader/puncher, a CPU, and a high-speed printer. The CPU was close to 6 feet tall, 5 feet wide, and 2.5 or 3 feet deep. It had 4K of RAM and no mass storage other than punched cards.
No, these machines did not involve programming by setting mechanical relays nor "bugs" that really were insects gumming up the works. What? Did you think I was old or something?
June 4th, 2010 at 11:32:02 AM
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Quote: WizardYes, I took computer programming just after the school purchased about a dozen Apple II computers. Before that I don't know what they used, but kids walked around the school with shoe boxes full of punch cards.
OK, everybody who can remember getting phone bills etc that were key punched raise your hand. DO NOT FOLD, SPINDLE, OR MUTILATE!
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June 4th, 2010 at 11:42:01 AM
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Quote: odiousgambitOK, everybody who can remember getting phone bills etc that were key punched raise your hand. DO NOT FOLD, SPINDLE, OR MUTILATE!
No, but I recall when hotel room keys were actual metal keys, with the room number engraved on them. Sometimes they came with oversize key-chains with the hotel's name and info printed on them.
Sometime in the early 80s my dad came back from a business trip to NYC with a small punch-card which served as room key at a Hilton there. The room number was hand-written in one side, the outline of a key adorned the other side.
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June 4th, 2010 at 1:46:43 PM
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I was just at Mandalay Bay and the pools are open to the general publc. Something about public access and gaming.
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June 4th, 2010 at 3:12:38 PM
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There is a Nevada regulation that you can't prohibit someone from going to a public casino. Recently special exceptions were made for VIP rooms, but that is another topic. The Mandalay Bay has a "poolside casino" that is accessible by the snack bar. If you told the guards by the main gate that you wanted to go to the poolside casino I think they could not forbid letting you in. It would be an easy trick to get away with to say you wanted to go to the casino, and then just go wherever you wanted once you got past the guard. Not that I approve of it.
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June 4th, 2010 at 3:26:40 PM
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Would this work at those nightclubs in the Palms? Anyone tried it?
June 4th, 2010 at 7:19:39 PM
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Quote: nyuhoosierWould this work at those nightclubs in the Palms? Anyone tried it?
I can only speak to "Moon" and it wouldn't work, because they don't have casino games there. In case you're wondering, you can go directly from Moon to the Playboy casino, but not vise versa.
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September 13th, 2010 at 8:59:57 PM
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At Mandalay bay, non-guests can visit the pool on weekdays if they rent a cabana. I wouldn't be surprised if other hotels did this as well.
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It's number 9 on the FAQ list.
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It's number 9 on the FAQ list.
September 13th, 2010 at 9:16:04 PM
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Quote: dudestupidAt Mandalay bay, non-guests can visit the pool on weekdays if they rent a cabana. I wouldn't be surprised if other hotels did this as well.
Big deal. The cost of a cabana is much more than a room.
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September 13th, 2010 at 10:12:07 PM
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Quote: WizardNot a bad idea. They would probably charge more than that, like $25. We locals are given the cold shoulder by our own casinos all the time, which is probably why we are not welcome at the pools at any price short of the cost of a room.
But heck, you don't need the casinos and their steenkin' pools. Vegas built a LOT of really nice public pools back during the boom years. There are three in Henderson alone that are terrific, and the admission fee is peanuts.
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September 14th, 2010 at 4:15:14 AM
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Nobody goes to Vegas-Casino pool parties to swim. Why would people line up and buy over priced tickets if all they wanted was to cool off by a pool and swim for a while and have one drink?
Some places do have half price for locals, though I imagine its still for locals who are young, attractive and drink like a fish.
There are hotels that have pools for swimming. Kids can be there. Often noisy kids. Women have to stay fully dressed and will be admitted if they are over 40. These are pools that are for swimming.
Some places do have half price for locals, though I imagine its still for locals who are young, attractive and drink like a fish.
There are hotels that have pools for swimming. Kids can be there. Often noisy kids. Women have to stay fully dressed and will be admitted if they are over 40. These are pools that are for swimming.
March 4th, 2011 at 2:41:03 AM
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Thanks for useful discussion about Pool.I think when we are enjoying Pool Parties then we follow some rules and regulations.
