Culinary Union Strike Downtown, Should I Stay?
March 31st, 2014 at 1:52:36 PM
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If you've been under a bus ==> http://www.casino.org/news/downtown-las-vegas-prepares-for-casino-worker-strike
I just bought an impromptu plane ticket to Vegas. Prices finally dropped. Yay.
However, I was planning on staying downtown this trip... so that leaves me with a precarious situation. Do you think this strike would affect my trip in an adverse way? I say adverse, because crossing a picket line is something I greatly enjoy doing. I ask this because I hope that some of you old timers can remember one of these... It's the Culinary Union 226 which includes "cooks, cleaners, bartenders, cocktail waitresses, porters, and others".
I see that Nevada is a Right to Work state, so my guess is that service will just be slow and possibly subpar because of the temps?
I just bought an impromptu plane ticket to Vegas. Prices finally dropped. Yay.
However, I was planning on staying downtown this trip... so that leaves me with a precarious situation. Do you think this strike would affect my trip in an adverse way? I say adverse, because crossing a picket line is something I greatly enjoy doing. I ask this because I hope that some of you old timers can remember one of these... It's the Culinary Union 226 which includes "cooks, cleaners, bartenders, cocktail waitresses, porters, and others".
I see that Nevada is a Right to Work state, so my guess is that service will just be slow and possibly subpar because of the temps?
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March 31st, 2014 at 1:57:19 PM
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You could always stay on the strip, but make some trips downtown just to cross the picket lines and tip the temp waitresses for a few drinks.
March 31st, 2014 at 3:17:11 PM
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Its one of the most powerful unions... I expect a quick settlement.
March 31st, 2014 at 3:30:21 PM
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Quote: FleaStiffIts one of the most powerful unions... I expect a quick settlement.
The last time this union went strike on it lasted
6 /12 years.. Soooooo...
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/1998/feb/01/nations-longest-strike-comes-to-an-end/
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March 31st, 2014 at 3:55:09 PM
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As far as casino goers were concerned, did that strike actually do anything?
April 2nd, 2014 at 12:02:03 PM
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Any news on this? Are they striking yet or have there been more negotiations?
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April 2nd, 2014 at 12:52:27 PM
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I read some more about this today. It looks like they've been working on an expired contract since last summer and the vote to strike was simply about giving the union more negotiating power. I'm not too well versed with how unions work, but my guess is that all it takes going forward is union leadership to start the picket lines.
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April 5th, 2014 at 8:56:05 AM
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So based on the Caeasar Windsor one day shut down, now I am getting concerned about the Downtown strike. Will be staying at Downtown Grand in early May. I didn't see it listed as one of the targeted properties in the linked article, so maybe we are good.
Anyone know what is the timeframe for picket lines to start forming downtown at other properties?
Anyone know what is the timeframe for picket lines to start forming downtown at other properties?
April 5th, 2014 at 5:05:51 PM
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Everything below is conjecture, I'm pretty sure we're just waiting for negotiations to break down.
Not sure about the downtown Grand, but remember, Nevada is a Right to Work state so there is no compulsory union membership for these employees. I'm not sure how Canada handles these matters, but I have to believe it's more liberal than the US when it comes to labor issues on average. Doesn't Canada even have an issue with replacement workers? I remember a MLS issue some time ago.
Could a hotel run on 50% of its employees from this union plus temps? Probably. 20% plus temps? Probably not. I'm staying at MSS in a couple of weekends so hopefully I won't find out.
Not sure about the downtown Grand, but remember, Nevada is a Right to Work state so there is no compulsory union membership for these employees. I'm not sure how Canada handles these matters, but I have to believe it's more liberal than the US when it comes to labor issues on average. Doesn't Canada even have an issue with replacement workers? I remember a MLS issue some time ago.
Could a hotel run on 50% of its employees from this union plus temps? Probably. 20% plus temps? Probably not. I'm staying at MSS in a couple of weekends so hopefully I won't find out.
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April 5th, 2014 at 7:48:30 PM
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I'm staying at Four Queens May 4-9, so I'm keeping an eye on this story. I do remember the picket lines at Frontier, but crossed them no problem. Not my battle. I want to eat Hugo's Cellar.
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April 11th, 2014 at 10:45:36 PM
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Word on the street is unless they get a last min settlement in, you will see people outside casinos starting tomorrow.
April 11th, 2014 at 10:48:28 PM
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I would never cross a picket line. That's a despicable thing to do.
April 11th, 2014 at 11:05:08 PM
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What unions does the Venetian have to deal with?
They pay housekeepers more than Union wages. What about bartenders and line cooks?
They pay housekeepers more than Union wages. What about bartenders and line cooks?
April 12th, 2014 at 12:14:33 AM
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Quote: sodawaterI would never cross a picket line. That's a despicable thing to do.
Ya but if casino x is offering 2:1 blackjack I'd trample over chef boyardee and guy fiero
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April 17th, 2014 at 2:53:21 PM
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http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014/apr/16/golden-nugget-becomes-first-downtown-casino-reach-/?utm_source=mostpopular&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=mostRead
- Golden Nugget agreed to a 5 year deal, only casino to "deal" so far
- Picketing last Saturday to draw attention to the matter. From the way it's written it sounds like they aren't actively striking, just trying to intimidate... so far.
If anyone has better information, I would appreciate it.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014/apr/08/culinary-picket-downtown-casinos-saturday/
Correction: GN is the only DOWNTOWN casino to deal so far. Other casinos that were having issues already have.
- Golden Nugget agreed to a 5 year deal, only casino to "deal" so far
- Picketing last Saturday to draw attention to the matter. From the way it's written it sounds like they aren't actively striking, just trying to intimidate... so far.
If anyone has better information, I would appreciate it.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014/apr/08/culinary-picket-downtown-casinos-saturday/
Correction: GN is the only DOWNTOWN casino to deal so far. Other casinos that were having issues already have.
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April 17th, 2014 at 3:29:03 PM
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I wouldn't worry about it at all.
April 17th, 2014 at 3:31:11 PM
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Quote: sodawaterI would never cross a picket line. That's a despicable thing to do.
I wouldn't give it a second thought.
April 17th, 2014 at 4:53:04 PM
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That's a pretty terrible thing to say TerribleTom
April 17th, 2014 at 5:17:45 PM
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Quote: PerditionThat's a pretty terrible thing to say TerribleTom
Why? I wouldn't give it a second thought either. Should I just automatically assume that because some employees are upset about something, they are automatically in the right?
April 17th, 2014 at 5:51:02 PM
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If I was a union guy, maybe I wouldn't. Like UPS & the Teamsters refusing to deliver to these casinos while the Culinary Union is picketing.
I am not a union guy, have never been a union guy, and don't particularly concern myself with unions.
If I had a trip booked and was staying at a hotel that was being picketed, I would not cancel my reservation. I'd go about my business as usual.
I am not a union guy, have never been a union guy, and don't particularly concern myself with unions.
If I had a trip booked and was staying at a hotel that was being picketed, I would not cancel my reservation. I'd go about my business as usual.
May 7th, 2014 at 1:59:43 PM
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Quote: EvenBobThe last time this union went strike on it lasted
6 /12 years.. Soooooo...
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/1998/feb/01/nations-longest-strike-comes-to-an-end/
14,999 and then 6 /12 years until 15,000 ?
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May 7th, 2014 at 2:09:04 PM
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About once a year they put on a short show-off strike that lasts only a few hours. Nobody seems to pay much attention to it. They just march up and down Fremont Street and it isn't clear at all who the strike is against. I haven't heard anything about a more serious strike this year. My advice is do what you were going to do anyway. Based on previous strikes, you wouldn't even be crossing a pick line, because they picket in the middle of the street and are not blocking any doors. It is more of an expression of free speech that a strike.
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May 7th, 2014 at 3:23:08 PM
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Quote: TerribleTomIf I was a union guy, maybe I wouldn't. Like UPS & the Teamsters refusing to deliver to these casinos while the Culinary Union is picketing.
I am not a union guy, have never been a union guy, and don't particularly concern myself with unions.
If I had a trip booked and was staying at a hotel that was being picketed, I would not cancel my reservation. I'd go about my business as usual.
I am changing your name to "Sensible Tom". Good post.
May 7th, 2014 at 4:06:46 PM
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Just want to say that there was no disturbance to my trip. I'm not saying there were no disturbances over the weekend for the hotel, just that I didn't notice any.
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