Quote: ELE09We have 5 kids, 22, 20, 19, 12 and 10. We will be in Vegas in July with extended family and are staying at Mandalay Bay. Obviously with 5 kids we have crammed into hotel rooms on numerous trips. We will be booking 2 rooms, 4 in 1 room, 3 in 2nd room. There is a $35 charge per person when more than 2 people in a 2 queen room! Can I just put down on the reservation 2 people? I am wondering because we will be spending a lot of time at the pool. Does every member in our group have to have a room key, or will our 12 and 10 year old just go in with us on our room key? I think it is ridiculous to charge for kids in a room. Never paid for kids in room before anywhere! And we take at least 3 family vacations per year!
In the past they have asked for a key/pass for every person in the group besides infants. The pool is exactly the reason they do this. Too many guests were letting in friends to the pool.
Quote: DRichIn the past they have asked for a key/pass for every person in the group besides infants. The pool is exactly the reason they do this. Too many guests were letting in friends to the pool.
I would never give my 10 and 12 year old (when they were that young) a hotel key. No way they will expect one from them. 19, 20 and 22 maybe. 10 and 12 I don't think so.
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$35 is just a lot when you consider the cramped quarters and towels don't even come close to costing this much. Especially considering the labor is very well possibly not even legal with the outsourcing these places use.
Quote: AxiomOfChoiceI've never found this to be a problem. You're allowed to go to the pool with your friends; I do it all the time. Often times I'll stay at a different hotel than my friends; we will go to the pool at my hotel or at their hotel; no one has ever cared. One room key has always been enough to get a group of 2-4 in (maybe if you show up with 10 people it will be different)
I haven't ran into it at other hotels but I have specifically at Manadaly Bay.
Quote: ELE09We have 5 kids, 22, 20, 19, 12 and 10. We will be in Vegas in July with extended family and are staying at Mandalay Bay. Obviously with 5 kids we have crammed into hotel rooms on numerous trips. We will be booking 2 rooms, 4 in 1 room, 3 in 2nd room. There is a $35 charge per person when more than 2 people in a 2 queen room! Can I just put down on the reservation 2 people? I am wondering because we will be spending a lot of time at the pool. Does every member in our group have to have a room key, or will our 12 and 10 year old just go in with us on our room key? I think it is ridiculous to charge for kids in a room. Never paid for kids in room before anywhere! And we take at least 3 family vacations per year!
You are the guy that ruins it for everybody else.Just because you are being cheap trying to cram everybody in 2 rooms.Just get another room.If you can't afford it take one less vacation trip or stay home.
Quote: ELE09We have 5 kids, 22, 20, 19, 12 and 10. We will be in Vegas in July with extended family and are staying at Mandalay Bay. Obviously with 5 kids we have crammed into hotel rooms on numerous trips. We will be booking 2 rooms, 4 in 1 room, 3 in 2nd room. There is a $35 charge per person when more than 2 people in a 2 queen room! Can I just put down on the reservation 2 people? I am wondering because we will be spending a lot of time at the pool. Does every member in our group have to have a room key, or will our 12 and 10 year old just go in with us on our room key? I think it is ridiculous to charge for kids in a room. Never paid for kids in room before anywhere! And we take at least 3 family vacations per year!
Quote: KB1You are the guy that ruins it for everybody else.Just because you are being cheap trying to cram everybody in 2 rooms.Just get another room.If you can't afford it take one less vacation trip or stay home.
How is this cheap? Just pay for 1 adult in each room and leave the kids out of the booking. Why pay for extra guests when you aren't getting value for them anyway. Also get 2 keys when you check in, then more later on in the day.
Quote: djatcHow is this cheap? Just pay for 1 adult in each room and leave the kids out of the booking. Why pay for extra guests when you aren't getting value for them anyway. Also get 2 keys when you check in, then more later on in the day.
It is sorta cheap since the room/property is being utilized more, but I do find it ridiculous that MB wants to charge $35/person/night extra as well for guests 3 and for guest 4. So I definitely don't blame OP. What's even more ridiculous is I believe CET Vegas charges an extra $30/person/night for guests 3 and 4. Even the damn Quad!!!
Charging extra is standard practice in Vegas though I believe.
For example, without a TR card: Tue Feb 11-Thu Feb 13 (3 nights) 2 queens at Quad.
2 people: $95.17 4 people: $248.17
As for the pool, you probably could get away with the younger kids not having keys, but the older ones would def need them. But do what djatc says though, pick up extra copies later.
Quote: s2dbakerI'm in favor of charging double for children under 21 and triple for children under 10. Under 5, they should probably be aborted.
OUCH !!
Quote: s2dbakerI'm in favor of charging double for children under 21 and triple for children under 10. Under 5, they should probably be aborted.
I agree with this, but for children under 10 the extra fee should be paid to the people in the nearby rooms, not to the hotel.
Quote: s2dbakerI'm in favor of charging double for children under 21 and triple for children under 10. Under 5, they should probably be aborted.
From a hotel manager's standpoint, 11-15 year old girls are the biggest annoyance, at least, in my experience. Six-Ten year old boys are a distant second.
Okay, I'll settle for this. Just to clarify, this concerns casino hotels only. I expect children at The Grand Floridian at Disneyworld.Quote: AxiomOfChoiceI agree with this, but for children under 10 the extra fee should be paid to the people in the nearby rooms, not to the hotel.
Quote: Mission146From a hotel manager's standpoint, 11-15 year old girls are the biggest annoyance, at least, in my experience. Six-Ten year old boys are a distant second.
I'm assuming with the age of tablets and smartphones the kids are generally getting better for room behavior. But unfortunately they are getting addicted to those suckers. My nephew is anyway. :(
Quote: s2dbakerOkay, I'll settle for this. Just to clarify, this concerns casino hotels only. I expect children at The Grand Floridian at Disneyworld.
Yeah, of course.
I wonder, if a hotel like MGM Grand or the Venetian went "adults only", and advertised that fact, if that would increase or decrease their revenue?
I would absolutely pay more to stay at hotels and (even more so) fly on planes that were adults-only.
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I would absolutely pay more to stay at hotels and (even more so) fly on planes that were adults-only.
+1 I would pay to throw babies overboard
Quote: tringlomaneI'm assuming with the age of tablets and smartphones the kids are generally getting better for room behavior. But unfortunately they are getting addicted to those suckers. My nephew is anyway. :(
It's tough to say, the sample size is pretty limited, and then when you exclude youth sports teams, the sample size becomes even more limited. We don't get many kids, in general, in the last couple of years. The ones that we do get are just the locals who effectively want to rent the pool for a birthday party and can't, so those kids are always bad.
We used to rent out the pool, but it became too much of a PITA. People had unrealistic expectations, they wanted us to run crap down to them, they wanted to use the hotel's towels, bring in twenty-thirty people when they said it'd be ten-fifteen, so we stopped doing it. The most unreasonable request would be the morons who thought we were going to close the pool to guests of the hotel during this time.
I mean, $50 pool party for three hours, what do you want!?
We now require people to rent at least one room (rack rate $100) with a maximum of four occupants per room and a maximum of six people allowed in the pool area per room rented. The result now is we'll end up with five rooms rented, two of which will end up being all but unused and less then ten people in total generally end up staying all night. It's basically $500 to have such a pool party, now, but I guess they get to be down there all day rather than limited to three hours...that's what whining will get them.
Quote: KB1You are the guy that ruins it for everybody else.Just because you are being cheap trying to cram everybody in 2 rooms.Just get another room.If you can't afford it take one less vacation trip or stay home.
Wow, rough crowd. In my original post I didn't mean "cramming" in a room as a bad thing. We have always booked enough beds and rooms for our family. Why do I need another room if we book 2 queen rooms that sleep 8? How is that ruining it for everybody else? Doesn't make sense. I am not trying to be cheap, I have just never had to pay for 2 children in a 2 queen bed room. By the way, I called Mandalay Bay myself and the very nice gentleman transferred me to VIP services and I was told they will put the children down as being under 2. She said they do it all the time for M Life members. All I asked was if there was a charge for children in the room because when booking online, it does not ask ages of guest #3 and 4. She right away said, "oh don't worry about that, you won't be charged" And do some of the other posts, we have been traveling with our kids since our first born was 9 months old and all 5 of our kids know how to behave. My older 3 have stayed at hotels in Europe where the hotels seemed to be a bit more "uptight" than say Disney. Lol. And they never have acted badly.
In 2 weeks we are coming to Vegas. We will have our 2 kids with us. We are staying at Harrah's but I was thinking about doing the 2 days free at Mandalay Bay through myvegas so we can use the pool. I read that they are strict about using the pool so I had a few questions that maybe someone here would know the answer to.
1. Check in is late afternoon, would it be possible to show up early like 11am and be able to use the pool before the official check in starts. If so I can get 3 days out if the pool for a 2 day res.
2. My parents are going to be in Vegas with us. The Mandalay bay site says 4 max per room. If I went in wit wife and kids, would my parents also be able to get in if they came a little later? I know they check to make sure the key is good but are they also checking to make sure the person's name is on the room?
Quote: GWAEPiggy backing onto this old topic .
In 2 weeks we are coming to Vegas. We will have our 2 kids with us. We are staying at Harrah's but I was thinking about doing the 2 days free at Mandalay Bay through myvegas so we can use the pool. I read that they are strict about using the pool so I had a few questions that maybe someone here would know the answer to.
1. Check in is late afternoon, would it be possible to show up early like 11am and be able to use the pool before the official check in starts. If so I can get 3 days out if the pool for a 2 day res.
2. My parents are going to be in Vegas with us. The Mandalay bay site says 4 max per room. If I went in wit wife and kids, would my parents also be able to get in if they came a little later? I know they check to make sure the key is good but are they also checking to make sure the person's name is on the room?
Best answer is call and ask, unless you don't want to know the answer. But in most cases, you can get away with it if you want to on the extra people in the room. It's all about how you feel about breaking "rules" if you find out their policies on it.
Quote: BozBest answer is call and ask, unless you don't want to know the answer. But in most cases, you can get away with it if you want to on the extra people in the room. It's all about how you feel about breaking "rules" if you find out their policies on it.
One reason I havent done that yet is because sometimes the answers you get from the reps are completely wrong. I figured maybe I would get a few answers from experienced people in this matter, then I was going to call and see if the answers matched.
I know for sure the 4 of us can go, just not sure if my parents will be allowed to tag along. They have the option to use myvegas and do the same thing but they won't actuslly use any of the pools, they will just sit there for a few hours. Perfect if it is free but $40 makes it not worth it.
Can you get in early? I don't know, but I suspect not because they were checking for keys. Maybe you take the kids to see the shark aquarium if the pool isn't available early.
Quote: AyecarumbaThere were signs saying ID's would be checked, and there was a guy checking keys before you could pick up a towel, but it wasn't that bad. However, when we stayed there, it was early in the season and the wave pool with the beach wasn't open yet. They might be more picky if it is crowded.
Can you get in early? I don't know, but I suspect not because they were checking for keys. Maybe you take the kids to see the shark aquarium if the pool isn't available early.
Well I called and as expected they were useless. She did say that max occupancy is 4 per room. I saw on their website that there is mobIle check in. It says check in 24 hours in advance and they will email you when your room is ready. Then it says enjoy the resort while you wait. I asked if that means we can enjoy the pool and she said she thinks so. I asked how without a room key and she said she wasn't sure and I should ask at checkin.
We are going April 9th which is spring break week. Room rates are 385 for a tuesday so I assume they are going to be packed.
Now just gotta figure out if parents can get it in or not.
Quote: GWAEOk so I called back and spoke with a different rep who appeared to know what she was talking about. She said check in is 3pm but you can early check in at 10 and if there are no rooms available they will give you a key to get into the pool.
Now just gotta figure out if parents can get it in or not.
Just curious how you plan on changing into and out of your bathing suits? Do you have a plan or just going to wing it?
Quote: billryanJust curious how you plan on changing into and out of your bathing suits? Do you have a plan or just going to wing it?
We are staying at harrahs. We will change there and then head over. We have a stroller for the kids so it will be easy to bring along some extras.
Quote: billryanJust curious how you plan on changing into and out of your bathing suits? Do you have a plan or just going to wing it?
If it were me I would do it at my car or in the stall of a bathroom.
Quote: billryanJust curious how you plan on changing into and out of your bathing suits? Do you have a plan or just going to wing it?
"bathing suits??" hehe... Going "European"... and bringing grandma and grandpa... shudder....
Another way to change is with a towel covering your body while you change clothes, careful not to drop your towel. If someone had a sheet, two helpers could hold it against a corner, giving privacy long enough to change. Either isn't proper and customary, but if in a pinch, will work.
Quote: WizardIf it were me I would do it at my car or in the stall of a bathroom.
Yeah, the MB area will certainly have bathrooms. We typically do this bathroom change at the Cosmo pool area since Identity members can use the pool Monday through Thursday without staying at the resort.