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June 2nd, 2013 at 9:10:05 AM permalink
Well, maybe that's not the proper term. lately there are more people Downtown carrying signs about finding god, repenting, etc. They all seem to be Christian. One sets up by Neonopolis and blurts out a speech on a poorly modulated amplifier and speaker; he sounds almost like an adult in a Peanuts cartoon ;)

But the funniest was a guy carrying a big sign saying: "God says: 'Please don't go to Hell'." Alas I missed a chance to take a photo. I was going to upload it to Facebook with the caption "Nareed says: 'don't get me started'."

Other than that passing thought, I've left them strictly alone. To be fair, they're less pushy than some salespeople at the kiosks. I respect a soft sell any time. But I did have a thought: wouldn't it be great to introduce them to our own FrGamble? Such a meeting would make for an interesting discussion IMO ;)
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June 2nd, 2013 at 12:53:19 PM permalink
I think they should be required to keep their rants to the "Free Speech Area" here.
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June 2nd, 2013 at 2:01:40 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

Other than that passing thought, I've left them strictly alone. To be fair, they're less pushy than some salespeople at the kiosks. I respect a soft sell any time. But I did have a thought: wouldn't it be great to introduce them to our own FrGamble? Such a meeting would make for an interesting discussion IMO ;)



"CONCUBINE OF THE WHORE!" most of them will probably scream.

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June 2nd, 2013 at 6:39:12 PM permalink
When I was staying Downtown in December, I didn't notice them. This may be a relatively new phenomenon and hopefully a temporary one.
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June 2nd, 2013 at 6:55:05 PM permalink
I got kicked out of bible study before because I think I understood judge not lest you be judged better than them. My roommate in the house we lived in must have been afraid I was going to lay his cute little blue eyed blond virgin before he did.
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June 2nd, 2013 at 7:10:04 PM permalink
These are among the few Christians I respect. My reading of the bible is that the majority of the human race, probably vast majority, is going to hell. If I believed this I would think it would be a moral imperative to try to prevent as many other people from going there as possible. For the same reason I would pull a child out of the street about to be hit by a bus, I would also approach random strangers and do whatever I could to detour their direction towards hell.

I've made this point before, including with the Holy Rollers on my radio show, so my apologies to those who have heard my opinion on this already.
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June 2nd, 2013 at 7:11:52 PM permalink
There was a loud woman evangelizing on Fremont last Sunday.

People just laughed and blew her off.

Apt.
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June 2nd, 2013 at 11:43:25 PM permalink
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There was a loud woman evangelizing on Fremont last Sunday.


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June 10th, 2013 at 12:12:23 AM permalink
I got them before leaving and posted it on Facebook. Let's see if the link works:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=536821706374209&set=pb.100001391547572.-2207520000.1370848155.&type=3&theater

You can see the Fremont marquee in the background.

I also saw a guy carrying a rather big wooden cross emblazoned with "Are You Ready?" on the horizontal part.
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June 10th, 2013 at 1:36:29 AM permalink
So are these people just spreading the word of God, or trying to dissuade gamblers from gambling? Nobody gets in between me and a bonus multiplier day at a casino.
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June 10th, 2013 at 3:42:50 AM permalink
All these pedestrian malls tend to lure protestors, demonstrators and performers. We need automobile fenders to keep such drek at bay.
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June 10th, 2013 at 7:30:34 AM permalink
I respect anyone using their right to free speech. I think that is going to be a very important right to keep alive in the coming years. I certainly don't agree with these folks or most other's proclaiming their beliefs in the street, but certainly agree with the right to do it even though it's annoying to me and probably to most others.
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June 10th, 2013 at 7:41:57 AM permalink
Quote: wrongway

I respect anyone using their right to free speech. I think that is going to be a very important right to keep alive in the coming years. I certainly don't agree with these folks or most other's proclaiming their beliefs in the street, but certainly agree with the right to do it even though it's annoying to me and probably to most others.



I would be willing to consider a slight reduction in our right to free speech if, in limiting it slightly, we could constitutionally ban / criminalize begging / panhandling.
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June 10th, 2013 at 8:39:34 AM permalink
Quote: wrongway

I respect anyone using their right to free speech. I think that is going to be a very important right to keep alive in the coming years. I certainly don't agree with these folks or most other's proclaiming their beliefs in the street, but certainly agree with the right to do it even though it's annoying to me and probably to most others.



I don't mind them carrying signs, preaching or looking for new recruits. So long as they're civil about it, that is. So far most of them are. Certainly they're less annoying than pushy salespeople.

But I think it's funny. Despite the hype, publicity and buzz, Vegas is for the most part all about good, clean fun. Things like gambling, cheap drinks and shows, plus sight-seeing and shopping. anyone looking for a den of "sinners," blackguards and ruffians, ought to go to Washington DC and/or state capitals.
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June 10th, 2013 at 8:48:38 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

These are among the few Christians I respect. My reading of the bible is that the majority of the human race, probably vast majority, is going to hell. If I believed this I would think it would be a moral imperative to try to prevent as many other people from going there as possible. For the same reason I would pull a child out of the street about to be hit by a bus, I would also approach random strangers and do whatever I could to detour their direction towards hell.

I've made this point before, including with the Holy Rollers on my radio show, so my apologies to those who have heard my opinion on this already.



I have the same opinion on orthodox Jews, reformed are just fooling themselves.

As a believer, my one issue with these people is that they tend to be legalistic. Smoking, drinking recreationally, and gambling have the ability to become sinful but are in no way directly against God on their own.
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June 10th, 2013 at 9:00:15 AM permalink
Right, but it IS called "Sin City", so they figured they'd start there?

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But I think it's funny. Despite the hype, publicity and buzz, Vegas is for the most part all about good, clean fun.



I think it's more funny that a citizen of Mexico, in the USA, is complaining about an invasion ;)
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June 10th, 2013 at 12:07:25 PM permalink
Quote: RogerKint

Right, but it IS called "Sin City", so they figured they'd start there?



It's like Halloween. People pretend being wicked and get drunk while having a good time.


Quote:

I think it's more funny that a citizen of Mexico, in the USA, is complaining about an invasion ;)



Shh! I established the beachhead and came back for reinforcements. But you're going to blow the whole operation wide open! :P
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June 10th, 2013 at 1:12:22 PM permalink
Restrictions against the poor are easier to pass judicial muster since there not objective criteria that visually define the class of protected people.
So banning urban camping or panhandling is easier.
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June 10th, 2013 at 1:16:12 PM permalink
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Shh! I established the beachhead and came back for reinforcements. But you're going to blow the whole operation wide open! :P



The Hispanics are where the Poles, Germans, Irish and Jews were before.

Just the current wave in an unending wave of immigrants to the Land of Milk and Honey.

And who can blame them?
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June 10th, 2013 at 3:52:20 PM permalink
Quote: Nareed

But I think it's funny. Despite the hype, publicity and buzz, Vegas is for the most part all about good, clean fun. Things like gambling, cheap drinks and shows, plus sight-seeing and shopping. anyone looking for a den of "sinners," blackguards and ruffians, ought to go to Washington DC and/or state capitals.


This is a great quote.
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June 10th, 2013 at 4:11:29 PM permalink
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This is a great quote.



And you have great taste in quotes.
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June 10th, 2013 at 4:46:19 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

These are among the few Christians I respect. My reading of the bible is that the majority of the human race, probably vast majority, is going to hell. If I believed this I would think it would be a moral imperative to try to prevent as many other people from going there as possible. For the same reason I would pull a child out of the street about to be hit by a bus, I would also approach random strangers and do whatever I could to detour their direction towards hell.

I've made this point before, including with the Holy Rollers on my radio show, so my apologies to those who have heard my opinion on this already.



There is also the question of what kind of witnessing is effective. Standing on a street corner with a sign or approaching random strangers might not have the highest success rate. In fact, those things may look crazy and repel people more than save them.
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October 22nd, 2013 at 11:50:56 AM permalink
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As a believer, my one issue with these people is that they tend to be legalistic. Smoking, drinking recreationally, and gambling have the ability to become sinful but are in no way directly against God on their own.



This is the big problem I have with a lot of religion, the attitude of "thou shalt not" do this and that when the reality is that doing so in moderation is just fine. I don't think any rational deity is going to condemn me or anyone else to hell for having a Bacardi and Coke while playing blackjack. Besides, we have freedom of religion in this country, so if something goes against your religion, just don't practice it.
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