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billryan
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January 2nd, 2021 at 10:37:02 AM permalink
Quote: USpapergames

I think I will just stop informing people of their lack of knowledge altogether. I don't know how else to convey my opinion without it offending others & I'm sorry.



That might be a step in the right direction. It's easy to be the smartest guy in the room when you are a street performer. It's a whole other thing when one is on a forum where half the posters evidently have multiple advanced degrees in this field.
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January 2nd, 2021 at 11:15:53 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

That might be a step in the right direction. It's easy to be the smartest guy in the room when you are a street performer. It's a whole other thing when one is on a forum where half the posters evidently have multiple advanced degrees in this field.



Yea, there is definitely a different atmosphere in this forum than the general public. Believe it or not, most people that know me don't even know I'm capable of getting this upset over conversations. I'm normally the person who isn't talking much & is totally fine with someone else making all the decisions unless I deem the choices of importance. I believe the reason why the WoV members see the worst of me is because so many people attack my game design or math skills. Your average person would never ever say any mean comments about specifically those skills of mine. In fact, your average person is almost always impressed if they can give me 15 minutes of their time. But more importantly, their opinions really don't matter to me when not only does the opinion of the WoV members matter to me but they are mostly hanus & outright rude!

There is a huge difference between giving someone constructive advice vs telling someone what to do or giving your opinion of that someone's skills (which most everyone has been doing the latter). When I 1st talked to Noah Dean (president of GLI), the man argued with me about a lot of things, I was able to change his mind on some of the arguments & he was able to change my mind on some of the other arguments. But at the end of the conversation, there were things we still disagreed on yet the conversation never once got heated! I swear on my life that our conversation lasted over 2 hours on the phone, what president of a company is going to take that amount of time to talk to a complete nobody (at the time nobody knew me in the industry, I think I had emailed Mr.Wizard a few times & that was it). But Mr. Dean is an incredibly smart fellow who realized very quickly how sharp I was at game design & he was able to realize my math skills from how difficult it must have been to solve the Royal Decks hand rankings. I consider Mr. Dean to be my 1st friend in the gambling industry even though the man didn't care for my game California Roll Poker, which at the time was my only complete casino game.

So what are the rules for professional criticism? I shouldn't have to tell you guys but I'm afraid so many people are ignorant about how to give constructive criticism correctly so I'm giving you guys the rules so you don't hurt another WoV member. I want to make it very clear that professional criticism should be applied whenever the person who's work your criticizing considers themselves a professional in whatever you're criticizing. An example can be seen in Arnold Palmer's behavior. Apparently, the man is extremely pleasant to be around unless you're making claims about his golf game. He has been known to punch people in the face without giving any warning. Once time he punched a heckler for attempting to correct his backstroke & he even told Peter Kessler right to his face on live television "I'll punch you in the nose" to prevent Kessler from ever eluding to the notion of Palmer cheating. Honestly, I don't blame Palmer for wanting to hurt these people, even though I disagree with his violence. You guys just don't understand the drive & determination it takes to be #1. People like Palmer & I already have inner self-criticism that makes whatever any heckler says sound like child's play. That's why it is so difficult to withstand ignorant opinions that are not constructive at all. Giving someone your opinion about their skills & abilities is not constructive criticism!!! There is no way to improve or gain knowledge from that kind of information but rather it is solely intended to hurt someone. So with that being said, here are the rules.

1. Don't mention your opinion about their skills, knowledge, or abilities. The majority of people can handle this information if they aren't actively trying to become a pro in the field.

2. Don't tell them they are doing things wrong or that they should be doing something else. Telling the pro what to do isn't going to help anything, instead keep the comment solely on the specifics & if there is a problem with their method, addressing specific concerns will allow the pro to question their own methods. Remember that the pro can only be a pro if they are as obsessed with the subject matter ≥ to you, so use that to your advantage. Odds are in addressing the specifics you will discover why the pro has chosen their methodology.

3. Constructive criticism is only constructive if your providing explanations for the criticism. Never ever tell a pro they are wrong & not provide a reason why. Again, we don't attack the pro by giving our opinion about their skills so we are never going to say they are a bad game designer. But we could say that we don't like one of their games, but only if we give a reason why. Lastly, that reason needs to have a valid point behind it. We shouldn't say we don't like a game because it's not fun, that's not constructive criticism it's just rude & if you don't see this there is something seriously wrong with you. However, you could say the game isn't fun because the main game mechanic is boring & here are the reasons why… Even though boring is completely opinionated, there is constructive criticism in that the game designer is potentially learning something from the criticism that they could apply to & improve their game.

4. Don't criticize what you don't understand. This is probably the worst problem with so many hecklers that attempt to criticize pros. Before even attempting to criticize anything, stop & think to yourself "How much knowledge & experience do I have in this particular field to correctly criticize someone who claims to be a pro in the field"? Way too many times have I seen this happen, we're know-it-all WoV members feel the need to give me their 2 cents of game design knowledge only for me to be compelled to give you a game design lesson so that some other ignorant person doesn't start to believe the other ignorant's 2 cents.
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January 2nd, 2021 at 12:03:45 PM permalink
Quote: USpapergames

Noah Dean (president of GLI)


Not the president of GLI. That's James Maida.
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January 2nd, 2021 at 12:17:48 PM permalink
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Not the president of GLI. That's James Maida.



The president of Las Vegas GLI is Noah Dean unless there has been some recent change I'm not aware of?
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January 2nd, 2021 at 12:37:37 PM permalink
Quote: USpapergames

The president of Las Vegas GLI is Noah Dean unless there has been some recent change I'm not aware of?


There is one president of GLI - James Maida.

Noah Dean is a math researcher.
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January 2nd, 2021 at 12:46:15 PM permalink
Noah Dean, according to his business profile, is a Senior Math Researcher at GLI, which is based in New Jersey.
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January 2nd, 2021 at 1:06:30 PM permalink
Quote: CrystalMath

There is one president of GLI - James Maida.

Noah Dean is a math researcher.



😮 Wow, apparently you are correct? I'm scared im losing my mind 😱 This feels like a Twilight Zone episode, I'm going through my emails because I swear I have seen at the bottom his title states as president. Not once, but multiple times I've seen it, yet every email his title at the bottom is exactly how you stated it 😬
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January 2nd, 2021 at 1:08:45 PM permalink
Quote: USpapergames

😮 Wow, apparently you are correct?



How shocking.
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January 2nd, 2021 at 1:10:33 PM permalink
Quote: CrystalMath

How shocking.



I guess it's just a matter of time before every WoV member gets to be correct :/
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January 2nd, 2021 at 1:10:59 PM permalink
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I guess it's just a matter of time before every WoV member gets to be correct :/



Just hold in there.
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