Favorite Guilty Pleasures
November 27th, 2010 at 4:10:52 PM
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Last year I asked something similar, but we have a lot of new faces and I always find this a fun subject. We all know the odds and agree with the Wizard's 10 commandments, but then again we are all human and have our favorite bets. So the question is:
What is your favorite bet that you know is heavily against you but you do it anyways?
I have a few. Primarily it's a $2 hi-lo, I've probably wasted a good $30-$40 on it and NEVER won it... but I end out doing it once or twice a trip. My other favorite bad bet is a craps check on the come-out roll, I'll throw a couple of these down every session and to be honest I've been very lucky. Lastly is playing roulette, this is one that I really need to cut back on. I love coming to the table and trying to hit it big.
What is your favorite bet that you know is heavily against you but you do it anyways?
I have a few. Primarily it's a $2 hi-lo, I've probably wasted a good $30-$40 on it and NEVER won it... but I end out doing it once or twice a trip. My other favorite bad bet is a craps check on the come-out roll, I'll throw a couple of these down every session and to be honest I've been very lucky. Lastly is playing roulette, this is one that I really need to cut back on. I love coming to the table and trying to hit it big.
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November 27th, 2010 at 4:18:06 PM
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Quote: ahiromuLast year I asked something similar, but we have a lot of new faces and I always find this a fun subject. We all know the odds and agree with the Wizard's 10 commandments, but then again we are all human and have our favorite bets. So the question is:
What is your favorite bet that you know is heavily against you but you do it anyways?
I have a few. Primarily it's a $2 hi-lo, I've probably wasted a good $30-$40 on it and NEVER won it... but I end out doing it once or twice a trip. My other favorite bad bet is a craps check on the come-out roll, I'll throw a couple of these down every session and to be honest I've been very lucky. Lastly is playing roulette, this is one that I really need to cut back on. I love coming to the table and trying to hit it big.
I have been known to play video keno now and then. It's a fun and relaxing game, and even though the best paytables return only 93%, the -EV of plunking in quarters for a half hour or so is low. It's also useful if you play positive VP and get stiffed on mailers and offers; a little slot play goes a long way toward opening the floodgates.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
November 27th, 2010 at 4:19:36 PM
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What are the Wizard's 10 commandments?
I like a good 10-spot keno ticket now and then. It's got poor odds, it preys on losing gamblers, and it's a 100% pure white trash game. But at times I have no problem buying 500 consecutive games at one time.
I like a good 10-spot keno ticket now and then. It's got poor odds, it preys on losing gamblers, and it's a 100% pure white trash game. But at times I have no problem buying 500 consecutive games at one time.
November 27th, 2010 at 4:21:08 PM
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I don't have any, but for my wife its that stupid dragon bet in mini bac. She can't leave it alone because she won 2 of them back to back once.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 27th, 2010 at 4:23:13 PM
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Quote: JerryLoganWhat are the Wizard's 10 commandments?
I like a good 10-spot keno ticket now and then. It's got poor odds, it preys on losing gamblers, and it's a 100% pure white trash game. But at times I have no problem buying 500 consecutive games at one time.
Actually, the game is Chinese. And I doubt that 100% of the people playing it are "white trash", whatever that's supposed to mean. I'm sure that Jerry isn't "white trash", though; he's a step up from that: white REFUSE.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
November 27th, 2010 at 4:32:03 PM
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Heh heh. I'm not tempted by any sucker bets. My favorite guilty pleasure/unwise bet is making bets that are to large for my bankroll at good odds games. Far worse than sucker bets :)
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
November 27th, 2010 at 4:35:36 PM
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Quote: mkl654321I'm sure that Jerry isn't "white trash", though; he's a step up from that: white REFUSE.
And that makes you what, Will Hunting, white debris?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 27th, 2010 at 4:37:34 PM
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Quote: EvenBobAnd that makes you what, Will Hunting, white debris?
Will Hunting is a fictional character, Bob. He doesn't exist.
You are, for the record, white styrofoam peanuts.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
November 27th, 2010 at 4:40:17 PM
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Quote: mkl654321Will Hunting is a fictional character, Bob. He doesn't exist.
Its reference that counts, not reality. Living people are given names of fictional characters all the time. If someone is called Elmer Fudd, we understand the reference immediately even though Elmer is a cartoon figure.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 27th, 2010 at 5:09:26 PM
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Quote: JerryLoganWhat are the Wizard's 10 commandments?
Wow, a regular poster to *this* site and you're not familiar with this: https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/tencom.html ?
Guilty pleasure is 2-way $1 4-1 on the hop when I am shooting and have a point of five.
Insurance is closed.
November 27th, 2010 at 5:50:54 PM
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Quote: EvenBobIts reference that counts, not reality. Living people are given names of fictional characters all the time. If someone is called Elmer Fudd, we understand the reference immediately even though Elmer is a cartoon figure.
Yes, but unlike you (apparently), we don't think he actually IS Elmer Fudd.
Will Hunting and Elmer Fudd are fictional characters, Bob. They don't exist.
And if you think that reality doesn't count, well...that goes a long way toward explaining many things.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
November 27th, 2010 at 5:58:59 PM
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Quote: mkl654321Yes, but unlike you (apparently), we don't think he actually IS Elmer Fudd.
And nobody thinks you're Will Hunting, or anything close to it. Thats rather my point, isn't it.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 27th, 2010 at 6:04:39 PM
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Quote: EvenBobAnd nobody thinks you're Will Hunting, or anything close to it. Thats rather my point, isn't it.
Then if you don't think I am Will Hunting, why call me that? You might as well call me Kobe Bryant, Barack Obama, or Cher for that matter. Kind of stupid to call someone something that you know they're not, isn't it?
I suspect part of your urge to call me that is your continuing delusion about my age. I've never seen the movie, so I don't know why you think calling me that is such a clever and witty insult--I understand that he was the hero of the movie, and a genius to boot. Really, I suppose I should feel complimented by your delusion, if you're making a comparison and saying that I'm a genius.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
November 27th, 2010 at 6:09:18 PM
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Quote: mkl654321Then if you don't think I am Will Hunting
Why call a short guy Wilt Chamberlain? Why call a fat woman Twiggy? Why call you Will Hunting?
Get it? Got it? Goooooood.....
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 27th, 2010 at 6:20:47 PM
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Quote: EvenBobWhy call a short guy Wilt Chamberlain? Why call a fat woman Twiggy? Why call you Will Hunting?
Because you're stupid, perhaps? (I am only answering your hypothetical question, of course, and am not saying that YOU are stupid. Obviously, you're not the sort of person to say stupid things like "You are Will Hunting"--that would be pretty moronic, and we know you're not like that.)
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
November 27th, 2010 at 6:23:11 PM
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I apologize for cooperating with EvenBob's attempt to hijack this thread. Let's return to the discussion at hand, which was getting pretty interesting until EvenBob showed up.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
November 27th, 2010 at 6:27:13 PM
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Quote: mkl654321Obviously, you're not the sort of person to say stupid things like "You are Will Hunting"--
You can't be Will Hunting, he's a fictional character. I use the name to point out that you're nothing like what Will Hunting would be like if he really existed. Its a literary device. A metaphor, if you will. "Metaphor is the concept of understanding one thing in terms of another. A metaphor is a figure of speech that constructs an analogy between two things or ideas; the analogy is conveyed by the use of a metaphorical word in place of some other word."
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 27th, 2010 at 6:50:40 PM
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Quote: joenunzWow, a regular poster to *this* site and you're not familiar with this: https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/tencom.html ?
Oh, I wasn't aware that studying was required in order to join. But thanks for the link. I see he copied the format of what Moses took from God down from the mountain. So he's not really a true atheist at all. Good for him!
November 27th, 2010 at 6:52:49 PM
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Quote: mkl654321Actually, the game is Chinese. And I doubt that 100% of the people playing it are "white trash", whatever that's supposed to mean. I'm sure that Jerry isn't "white trash", though; he's a step up from that: white REFUSE.
I do believe the casinos call it "Keno" and not "Chinese". BTW, ask your local Chinaman what white trash is.
November 27th, 2010 at 6:59:41 PM
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Quote: JerryLoganI do believe the casinos call it "Keno" and not "Chinese". BTW, ask your local Chinaman what white trash is.
The game's ORIGIN is Chinese, but of course, you're not so dense as to understand that that is what I meant. And "Keno" IS a Chinese word. The casinos don't call baccarat "French", but it's a French word.
Your racial comment is beneath notice.
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.---George Bernard Shaw
November 27th, 2010 at 7:09:27 PM
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Quote: JerryLoganOh, I wasn't aware that studying was required in order to join. But thanks for the link.
I didn't mean to imply that "studying was required", I meant that I was surprised that someone so involved in this particular forum would be unfamiliar with the "basics" of the host's "philosophy".
I suppose I shouldn't be surprised since from what I've read, I think you feel a few of the "commandments" are nonsense. Many times, your posts prompt other members to reply sarcastically, which turns into a silly pissing match, which causes many derailed threads. And so on.
Please note I am NOT saying you shouldn't make your comments - but I think the "commandments" may help explain why many folks have issues with some of your comments.
Insurance is closed.
November 27th, 2010 at 7:34:08 PM
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Taking this back to the original topic....
My guilty pleasure is the Fire Bet.
Sure, it's a sucker bet with a high house edge just like any other side bet. But since it's a long time between placing the bet and getting resolution, that's great long-term action.
My guilty pleasure is the Fire Bet.
Sure, it's a sucker bet with a high house edge just like any other side bet. But since it's a long time between placing the bet and getting resolution, that's great long-term action.
I invented a few casino games. Info:
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November 27th, 2010 at 7:45:28 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearTaking this back to the original topic....
My guilty pleasure is the Fire Bet.
Sure, it's a sucker bet with a high house edge just like any other side bet. But since it's a long time between placing the bet and getting resolution, that's great long-term action.
Good plan...apologies for helping temporarily derailing the thread...
I like the fire bet as well. I hit it once for $250 in Bally's and since I now stay away from Harrah's properties in general I will likely retire "positive" on the fire bet!
Insurance is closed.
November 28th, 2010 at 12:04:29 AM
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I usually don't take bets that have a big house advantage but about 2 weeks ago I was playing baccarat and a kid that was probably 19-20 year old was betting $2,500 on all the 3 side bets (that's $7,500 in total) and was getting payouts of 8-to-1 and 11-to-1 about half of the time! People started following his bets but every time I would not bet, telling myself that the house edge on these was too big only to see him win tens of thousands of dollars on the next hand. This almost makes me want to take these bets next time.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:06:28 AM
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My favorite pleasures are some of the nerdy video slots like Star Trek and Lord of the Rings. I also like the Monopoly ones. The bonus games can be a lot of fun. Tribbles pinball is brilliant.
November 28th, 2010 at 9:13:46 AM
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I also love geeky slots, but my worst habit has to be Casino War. I play a bit on every trip at O'Sheas. I know its terrible, but I just cant resist.
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November 28th, 2010 at 11:24:37 PM
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Throwing the occasional dollar at the horrendous prop bets on craps can be fun. Yeah house edge is high, etc. etc., but it livens up my usual pass-line-with-min-odds game for only a buck every once in a while. Plus, on occasion I've actually hit them, which just encourages me.
I've never seen this, but it sounds amazing.
Quote: dudestupidTribbles pinball is brilliant.
I've never seen this, but it sounds amazing.
November 29th, 2010 at 7:26:50 AM
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The Wheel of Fortune slots, the reel ones, with the single "SPIN" on the third reel. I am an absolute sucker for that slot machine, and every single time I go to the casino I'll cycle $100 through one, either $.25, $1, or $5.
There's just something about that "CHUNG. WHEEL... OF... FORTUNE!!!!!!" sound that I can't resist, I have to hear it.
There's just something about that "CHUNG. WHEEL... OF... FORTUNE!!!!!!" sound that I can't resist, I have to hear it.
A falling knife has no handle.
November 29th, 2010 at 9:13:51 AM
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Quote: Mosca
There's just something about that "CHUNG. WHEEL... OF... FORTUNE!!!!!!" sound that I can't resist, I have to hear it.
My wife was the same, but for the new WOF video slot with progressives. She hit 4 progressives in 5 spins playing the penny version on max at Bally's. It was only the middle 2 she hit, twice each, but still made around $200 off the machine, so wasnt bad.
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December 2nd, 2010 at 5:20:20 PM
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Quote: ElectricDreamsThrowing the occasional dollar at the horrendous prop bets on craps can be fun. Yeah house edge is high, etc. etc., but it livens up my usual pass-line-with-min-odds game for only a buck every once in a while. Plus, on occasion I've actually hit them, which just encourages me.
Egads, I know that feeling. If I had never hit it, I would have given up a long time ago. However, I am still on the positive side of my occassional daliances into hopping hardways. It is a tremendous rush to actually call your shot. I only do it when I am shooting, and then only when I have already made back my bets on the table.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
December 2nd, 2010 at 5:26:03 PM
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I always play the fire bet when I'm shooting at craps. It's $5 out the window but I've hit 5 points once and 4 points a few times. It's just another losing proposition but to me it really adds that extra oomph that many games don't have plus it adds more excitiement to a long roll. I also remember the time I was playing and there were only 3 of us at the table. The guy to my right crapped out, I put up my $5 fire bet and crapped out and then my buddy showed up. I didn't place a pass line bet but I just stood there talking to my friend... and watching as the shooter hit 6 points... D'OH!
Happiness is underrated
December 3rd, 2010 at 11:56:07 AM
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6 or more team parlay cards when I'm making more "sensible" NFL bets. I call it my "lottery ticket".
I also used to make a very small all-team, money line, parlay bet when I ran predictions league. I hit from 15 from 16 once... the one I missed was the predicton I change 30 minutes before kick off while I was placing the bets...
5 from 6 on my last trip, damn you Titans for costing me a $200 pay out.
I also used to make a very small all-team, money line, parlay bet when I ran predictions league. I hit from 15 from 16 once... the one I missed was the predicton I change 30 minutes before kick off while I was placing the bets...
5 from 6 on my last trip, damn you Titans for costing me a $200 pay out.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
December 3rd, 2010 at 12:20:41 PM
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Gambling: WoF slots, Megabucks slots, PGP Fortune Bonus, suited crap hole cards, don't-pass, and 25c VP for free beers.
Vegas, not gambling: any Cirque show, Blue Man (EVERY single time), Penn & Teller, Shark Reef, Parasol Up bar at Wynn (always have good luck there), Caramel (ditto), Eyecandy (ditto), Foundation Room (ditto), drinks at the top of the Strat at sunset, at least one ultra-fine dining meal (even went to about $2,000 once), UNLV bookstore, and buying a shirt or coat at some uber-retailer in the Mall or at a casino esplanade.
Not Vegas: Pixar movies, ragtime and swing music, booty call from K, major sport events (World Cup South Africa was latest)
Vegas, not gambling: any Cirque show, Blue Man (EVERY single time), Penn & Teller, Shark Reef, Parasol Up bar at Wynn (always have good luck there), Caramel (ditto), Eyecandy (ditto), Foundation Room (ditto), drinks at the top of the Strat at sunset, at least one ultra-fine dining meal (even went to about $2,000 once), UNLV bookstore, and buying a shirt or coat at some uber-retailer in the Mall or at a casino esplanade.
Not Vegas: Pixar movies, ragtime and swing music, booty call from K, major sport events (World Cup South Africa was latest)
