April 26th, 2019 at 11:34:57 AM
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Hello Wizardofvegas... Im a fan of wizzard of odds but i cannot ask questions there, sad to say but this is my first time here. Here are my questions. What is the house edge in Super Pontoon in Philippines? Can you make basic strategy from the given rules below?
PONTOON
The new Pontoon offers more ways to win. The same old game of Blackjack with great new rules. Eight Spanish decks (A-9, J, Q, and K) are used.
Dealer stands on hard 17 and draws to soft 17.
Player’s Pontoon(natural 21) wins at the odds of 3 to 2.
Player’s total of hard 21 wins at the odds of:
A. Hard 21 with 3 to 4 cards – 1 to 1
B. hard 21 of 678 and 777 suited pays 3 to 1
B. Hard 21 with 5 cards or more – 3 to 2
Player’s total of soft 21 never loses, but will tie with Dealer’s Pontoon(natural 21) and 21.
Pair Bets
Pair outcome on the initial deal immediately pays 10 to 1. ( sucker bet, i dont play this)
Splitting
A hand dealt with a pair on its first two cards may be split to a maximum of three separate hands only. Hitting and buying is allowed after splitting, except on split Aces.
Buy Bets
Stakes may be increased (in any 2 cards) for each hit card up to 3 additional times.
Surrender /Business / Partial Business:
These options enable the player to give up half of all his bets, half of all buy bets, or half the third/second and third buy bets, respectively, provided that the Dealer does not have an Ace as show card.
Dealer always use Continuous Shuffle Machine (CSM) with 6 decks.
Thanks a lot
PONTOON
The new Pontoon offers more ways to win. The same old game of Blackjack with great new rules. Eight Spanish decks (A-9, J, Q, and K) are used.
Dealer stands on hard 17 and draws to soft 17.
Player’s Pontoon(natural 21) wins at the odds of 3 to 2.
Player’s total of hard 21 wins at the odds of:
A. Hard 21 with 3 to 4 cards – 1 to 1
B. hard 21 of 678 and 777 suited pays 3 to 1
B. Hard 21 with 5 cards or more – 3 to 2
Player’s total of soft 21 never loses, but will tie with Dealer’s Pontoon(natural 21) and 21.
Pair Bets
Pair outcome on the initial deal immediately pays 10 to 1. ( sucker bet, i dont play this)
Splitting
A hand dealt with a pair on its first two cards may be split to a maximum of three separate hands only. Hitting and buying is allowed after splitting, except on split Aces.
Buy Bets
Stakes may be increased (in any 2 cards) for each hit card up to 3 additional times.
Surrender /Business / Partial Business:
These options enable the player to give up half of all his bets, half of all buy bets, or half the third/second and third buy bets, respectively, provided that the Dealer does not have an Ace as show card.
Dealer always use Continuous Shuffle Machine (CSM) with 6 decks.
Thanks a lot
Last edited by: Denes on Apr 26, 2019
April 26th, 2019 at 11:36:12 AM
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Additional Rule : Tens are remove from the deck
April 26th, 2019 at 2:40:15 PM
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Welcome to the forum, Denes. This is where questions from WizardofOdds are directed. So you've asked in the right place.
I would suggest a couple things. Though perhaps someone will run the numbers for you here (I'm
not a math expert.)
1. Check the archives on this forum (search box on top menu bar) for threads on SuperFun21, Spanish 21 and Pontoon. There's a lot of discussion about strategy there.
2. There's a book, considered the best written, called The Pro's guide to Pontoon and Spanish 21. The author passed away recently, but it's pretty up to date. I suggest you consider buying it.
https://www.amazon.com/Pros-Guide-Spanish-Australian-Pontoon/dp/1435710657/ref=asc_df_1435710657/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312149981494&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10513652366027730399&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9011840&hvtargid=pla-574389174372&psc=1#
I would suggest a couple things. Though perhaps someone will run the numbers for you here (I'm
not a math expert.)
1. Check the archives on this forum (search box on top menu bar) for threads on SuperFun21, Spanish 21 and Pontoon. There's a lot of discussion about strategy there.
2. There's a book, considered the best written, called The Pro's guide to Pontoon and Spanish 21. The author passed away recently, but it's pretty up to date. I suggest you consider buying it.
https://www.amazon.com/Pros-Guide-Spanish-Australian-Pontoon/dp/1435710657/ref=asc_df_1435710657/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312149981494&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10513652366027730399&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9011840&hvtargid=pla-574389174372&psc=1#
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
September 6th, 2019 at 1:14:52 AM
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very detailed thread on rules.
i am trying to make some things on this game. it is some difficulites. but if the normal bj is finished, this bj is finishable.
for the book, no info on this kind of pontoon?
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i am trying to make some things on this game. it is some difficulites. but if the normal bj is finished, this bj is finishable.
for the book, no info on this kind of pontoon?
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beachbumbabs
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September 6th, 2019 at 8:06:10 AM
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Sounds like Australian Pontoon/Spanish 21.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
September 6th, 2019 at 10:18:18 AM
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Quote: WizardSounds like Australian Pontoon/Spanish 21.
yes, you are right, as always.