zapman
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March 20th, 2019 at 4:47:22 PM permalink
In a Florida casino, I noticed that the pair plus pay table for 3 card poker was exceptional and is as follows:
200 Mini Royal
50 Straight Flush
30 Three of a Kind
6 Straight
4 Flush
1 Pair
I don't have a computer program to calculate the advantage, but it appears to be around 2% for the player based on some rough comparisons. Is this accurate?
In addition, I found out that you also have to play the ante bet (which I believe has around an 8% disadvantage). Also, the pair plus hand has to beat the dealers hand to get paid. However, the pair plus bet does not have to be the same as the ante bet. So potentially I am thinking that an advantage could be gained betting, say $50 on the pair plus and only $5 on the ante bet. Would this get me an overall advantage. The maximum bet allowed on the pair plus is $100 and the minimum on the ante is $5. Wondering how the overall advantage would increase with my bet spread between pair plus and ante. I am also concerned about the volatility and wonder what type of bankroll I would need to exploit this advantage fully.
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March 20th, 2019 at 7:59:16 PM permalink
Quote: zapman

In a Florida casino, I noticed that the pair plus pay table for 3 card poker was exceptional and is as follows:
200 Mini Royal
50 Straight Flush
30 Three of a Kind
6 Straight
4 Flush
1 Pair
I don't have a computer program to calculate the advantage, but it appears to be around 2% for the player based on some rough comparisons. Is this accurate?
In addition, I found out that you also have to play the ante bet (which I believe has around an 8% disadvantage). Also, the pair plus hand has to beat the dealers hand to get paid. However, the pair plus bet does not have to be the same as the ante bet. So potentially I am thinking that an advantage could be gained betting, say $50 on the pair plus and only $5 on the ante bet. Would this get me an overall advantage. The maximum bet allowed on the pair plus is $100 and the minimum on the ante is $5. Wondering how the overall advantage would increase with my bet spread between pair plus and ante. I am also concerned about the volatility and wonder what type of bankroll I would need to exploit this advantage fully.



It makes a huge difference that you must beat the dealer to win the PP bet. That's why the numbers are so good. But the HE against you is higher than regular PP because of all the potential wins you will lose to the dealer's better hand , and because there are 2 parties trying to make money off you - both the house and the player/syndicate.

I don't have numbers for you. I know that those who have calculated these have made them much worse than the regular (class III) bets, on all the games that seem familiar.

The hands that you are likely to get, up to the SF, are the same as the better 3card PP paytable, which has a HE of 2.14% BEFORE you must beat the dealer. I would guess that rule adds 5-6% HE to the game.

Wizard does discuss Florida variants here, but he does not list the same paytable you are playing.

https://wizardofodds.com/games/three-card-poker/florida-variant/

Edit. You posted the same thing in 2 threads. Don't do that.

Other answers were given in this thread:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/questions-and-answers/advice/32704-exploiting-pair-plus-advantage-play-in-3-card-poker/#post707347

Please take any further discussion there. This thread is closed.
Last edited by: beachbumbabs on Mar 20, 2019
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.

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