Quote:DoctorPhilSorry for not replying as quickly. First, I'm not a cussing any casino of cheating. Why would they? Second, this is a high limit room, hand shuffled, shoe with 6 decks. Someone did ask about surrender, I said in OP they have surrender. I did not track but since I started basic strategy, I do recall surrendering a few hands. I considered that a loss, I realize it's half a loss. I'm not sure that changes much. Again, I certainly can't tell you where the cut card was, but I gave a few constants.

If you don't want to provide the answer and more concentrate on the validity, fine I'll just figure it out elsewhere.

I do recall doubling and splitting. They didn't win.

I gave you the rough chance*** of this happening in one shoe earlier in this thread, it is between 1/552,414,131,902 and 1/679,726,902,915,061, depending on how many hands you played per shoe.

***: for a fairly dealt game.

I also gave you the WoO site that you can go to, so that you can work out the chance of having a bad session like yours (the chance of losing is about 49.09% for each hand you play).

Can you guess/estimate how many shoes you have played in your life so far?

We could find a more "accurate" estimate if we had that figure, but It would still be at most a 1 in a million chance over a "life-time" of playing bj (that figure is for a player who plays every day for 50+ years)

Ps I couldn't estimate the chance figure for it happening in two shoes, because my calculator came back with an error message when I tried to find out.

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update (about 3am pacific time)

Just did 100,000,000 simulations and the "minimum return" was -36^^^ units "wagering" 38 units in total and "bet size" 1 unit

^^^The sim doesn't tell me how this "minimum return" occurred, but It gave me these details/figures below:

House edge (per hand): 0.35% (estimate)

Standard Deviation (per hand): 1.15 (estimate)

Average return: -0.12 units (u)

Minimum Return: -36 u

Maximum Return: +37 u

Standard Deviation: 6.71 (don't know how to use that figure, someone else may be able to explain it)

This website was used to simulate the above: http://www.beatingbonuses.com/simulator.htm

Note: my computer won't run the java script simulator, but it is supposed to be a lot faster (see below)

http://www.beatingbonuses.com/simulator_java.htm

Quote:NathanThe fact that an esteemed long time Member also mentioned that the same exact thing happened to him at least once gives credible credence to what the OP claimed.

I don’t remember this. Can you explain?

Quote:FinsRuleI don’t remember this. Can you explain?

Chump Change. "I've lost 40 hands fairly quickly. I'd call it a quantum leap." :)

Quote:NathanChump Change. "I've lost 40 hands fairly quickly. I'd call it a quantum leap." :)

Fairly quickly is not the same thing as 40 in a row.

Quote:CrystalMathFairly quickly is not the same thing as 40 in a row.

But it does kind of give credence that the OP was telling the truth. ;)

Quote:NathanBut it does kind of give credence that the OP was telling the truth. ;)

No it doesn’t at all.

It never happened