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January 5th, 2019 at 10:16:11 PM permalink
my previous post:
" For those interested in roulette
The problem is that most people don't understand math! In this regard, erroneous ideas are considered endlessly. Published ideas that can not explain the authors themselves. It is similar to the Kama Sutra (64 sexual positions) in which instead of the woman use the brain and brains of people around!
I propose to order a mathematical work from real mathematicians-professionals!In this work, all information about random sequences and methods of working with them will be disclosed. Our questions will also be answered.
It's going to cost money. In my country(Russian Federation) this work will cost 500$-1000$. For a group of people the cost of this work will cost$10 -50$!The work will take one to two months."

Am I asking you to send me money ?

I propose to hire a mathematician in any country in the world in which it will be profitable!

The reason is that many of the answers on the forums are not accurate. Sample:

Quote: Trooper13



1. If a roulette wheel does not have a memory, should it matter if I played X number of spins in a row, or X/10 spins per day for 10 days? Would those gaps in play (while the wheel is still spinning without me playing/tracking) skew the results gravitating towards the expected results over X spins (excepting of course a difference for normal distribution for the results in X spins)? Seems like X spins is X spins, no matter when or in what order they occur.



Quote: heatmap


There are so many versions of random, but i suspect people around here will simply answer "no" to this question, if the wheel is considered completely "random".



Quote: fleastiff


Neither the wheel nor the little white ball know whether you are standing there or not, nor do either of them care if you win or lose. Neither will work on your behalf or work to even things out in the long run and restore the proper balance of the universe or of that particular wheel.



Quote: luckyphow


1. Gaps in play should result in different results (than continuing to play in a single session), but never should cause the data to be skewed one way or the other from random."




How do I imagine the correct answer: Can we assume that a random sequence consists of short ones with the same property? Obviously, " Yes." Members of any group X are independent and identically distributed.All calculations should be made using the fact that the members of any group are independent, equally distributed, and everything is obtained from standard formulas for the Bernoulli distribution.
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January 5th, 2019 at 10:20:54 PM permalink
You are walking a very thin line given the previous warning. I hope all readers ignore his subtle request for money.
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January 5th, 2019 at 10:30:22 PM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

You are walking a very thin line given the previous warning. I hope all readers ignore his subtle request for money.



He lost me at the second line "for those interested in roulette"
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January 5th, 2019 at 11:02:23 PM permalink
I repeat, I'm not asking for money! I myself and my partners will send money to the mathematician who took this case. There are many ways to get acquainted with a part of the result and then send the fee!
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January 6th, 2019 at 2:07:47 AM permalink
Quote: evs

I repeat, I'm not asking for money! I myself and my partners will send money to the mathematician who took this case. There are many ways to get acquainted with a part of the result and then send the fee!

Right EVS.... Please note that as moderators go, I'm probably more tolerant than most. But you are indeed walking a fine line.
I can see that English might not be your first language, so misinterpretation of your posts is possible. Also, you might be misinterpreting some of 'the answers' to earlier posts.
For a bright guy with two degrees, you are proposing something pretty dumb.
For single zero roulette and an unbiased wheel, on average 1/37 of what you stake will be held by the house edge. Over the long term, on average, you will lose 1/37. That is immutable fact. Sometimes you'll get lucky and win and sometimes you'll get unlucky and lose faster. There is nothing that you can know about the 'nature of random' that will give you any advantage.
You can pay any amount of money that you like to any number of 'mathematicians' and you cannot change that.
If you are dumb enough to commission those 'experts' then that is your right. but do not in any way try to use this forum to solicit contributions to your insane venture, before or after you commission it.
If you want to throw your own money away, then go for it. Learn whatever secrets you can and then use them to get incredibly rich. For if the secrets are valuable, who cares about the few thousand that it cost you. Since those 'secrets' cannot be valuable, then ... well you might have some amusement along the way.
Completely forget about asking members here to contribute to your scheme and we will consider you rehabilitated.
Raise the concept again and you will be banned.

Enough said? Was I clear enough?

Oh... and I cleaned up your quoting.
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January 6th, 2019 at 6:16:27 AM permalink
There are many qualified gaming mathematicians who may consider taking your money, you don't need to solicit them here. Just use your friend Google and contact them directly.

I thought Mike had a link on WoO with a list, but now I can't find it.

Not me -- I'm retired.

Just looking for a way for you to NOT post here again.
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January 6th, 2019 at 8:23:04 AM permalink
Don’t you have more important things to do? Like AGAIN helping the Democrats like you did in 2016?

Or if you need cash, just get to Mexico, illegally cross the border and apply for support in CA and you are golden. Free food, education and safe haven. Welcome to America my Russian friend, the sanctuary you deserve is our goals.
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January 6th, 2019 at 8:36:29 AM permalink
Bit of a tenuous thread hijack there, Boz. (Is that short for Boris $:o) )
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January 6th, 2019 at 10:38:56 AM permalink
Quote: evs

I repeat, I'm not asking for money! I myself and my partners will send money to the mathematician who took this case. There are many ways to get acquainted with a part of the result and then send the fee!



I'll do it, but I'm sure others here will undercut me in price considerably.
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January 6th, 2019 at 10:57:36 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I'll do it, but I'm sure others here will undercut me in price considerably.

Whatever price you offer, I'll come out of retirement and do it for twice as much (plus epsilon)!

Maybe a fee-martingale in the making?
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January 6th, 2019 at 11:15:42 AM permalink
Im just happy someone quoted my post i figured no one read them
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January 6th, 2019 at 11:20:46 AM permalink
Quote: evs


...roulette...
I propose to hire a mathematician in any country in the world in which it will be profitable



I’m going to save you some cash. You can’t make roulette profitable unless you own the casino, have super human powers, or cheat.
I heart Crystal Math.
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January 6th, 2019 at 11:37:41 AM permalink
Quote: CrystalMath

I’m going to save you some cash. You can’t make roulette profitable unless you own the casino, have super human powers, or cheat.



Some people have had success tracking roulette. I don't think saying you CAN'T make money on roulette is correct. I'd say you WON'T make money, which is the most likely outcome

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January 6th, 2019 at 3:11:04 PM permalink
For $200 per hour I'll prove any system doesn't hold water. The money you pay me will be much less than what you'll lose in the casino to eventually reach the same conclusion. I'm sure somebody will beat my number, but let the bidding begin. I will add I'm a very fast programmer.
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January 6th, 2019 at 9:15:54 PM permalink
Dear visitors of the Forum please Express your opinion about the rates in the game with a negative expectation! Need to raise?
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January 6th, 2019 at 9:17:29 PM permalink
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Dear visitors of the Forum please Express your opinion about the rates...

$200/hour is a good deal. I say you should go for it.
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January 6th, 2019 at 10:17:19 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

For $200 per hour I'll prove any system doesn't hold water. The money you pay me will be much less than what you'll lose in the casino to eventually reach the same conclusion. I'm sure somebody will beat my number, but let the bidding begin. I will add I'm a very fast programmer.


For $ 200 an hour I'll catch a bird in the field! For $ 200 per hour I will hire in Russia 10 mathematicians or 5 programmers and 5 mathematicians! Or 8 prostitutes!
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January 6th, 2019 at 10:53:27 PM permalink
Quote: heatmap

Im just happy someone quoted my post i figured no one read them



Probably an accident.



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January 6th, 2019 at 10:56:06 PM permalink
I only charge $100 to tell you your system won't beat roulette. I can tell you this via PM, Twitter or a text.



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I am an employee of a Casino. Former Table Games Director,, current Pit Supervisor. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.
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January 6th, 2019 at 11:51:01 PM permalink
I'm redacting your email address from the above post. If you post it again, you will be insta banned for system selling.
I or another mod may well decide to ban you in any case.

Note to any members new to this site... EVS is selling a dream and a lie. It is only a fool that would send him money.

Thread now closed.

Gentlemen, you see what happened when I offered to Deposit 10$-50$! On this moment already I have and my associates are asked thousands of $! And no warnings! Do they hate Russians that much?
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January 7th, 2019 at 1:17:23 AM permalink
Quote: evs

I'm redacting your email address from the above post. If you post it again, you will be insta banned for system selling.
I or another mod may well decide to ban you in any case.

Note to any members new to this site... EVS is selling a dream and a lie. It is only a fool that would send him money.

Thread now closed.

Gentlemen, you see what happened when I offered to Deposit 10$-50$! On this moment already I have and my associates are asked thousands of $! And no warnings! Do they hate Russians that much?

Personally, I like Russians, at least the ones I have meet. It has nothing to do with where you are from and everything to do with members disliking bunk gambling systems.

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January 7th, 2019 at 1:22:38 AM permalink
Quote: evs

For $ 200 an hour I'll catch a bird in the field! For $ 200 per hour I will hire in Russia 10 mathematicians or 5 programmers and 5 mathematicians! Or 8 prostitutes!

The bird in the field might give you a better analysis of roulette and if not, you could eat it.... Actually, that might apply to the 8 prostitutes too.
Yes... on balance I think we should go for the prostitute option..... If I contribute 1/8 of the $200, would I get exclusive use of one prostitute for an hour, or just a nibble from all 8?. Could I go first please?
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January 7th, 2019 at 1:43:01 AM permalink
exclusive use of one prostitute for an hour. come to Russia
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January 7th, 2019 at 1:44:19 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Personally, I like Russians, at least the ones I have meet. It has nothing to do with where you are from and everything to do with members disliking bunk gambling systems.

This is a must see for everyone. Thank me Later.


"Tonight you party with us"

Hey Axel.... Why does the guy not have a shirt?
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January 7th, 2019 at 8:21:38 AM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Probably an accident.



ZCore13



Second confirmed person reading my post thats two in a row maybe ill go to the casino and try my luck!
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January 7th, 2019 at 10:12:09 AM permalink
Actually $200 an hour seems very fair to me for a math expert that also programs. I charge that just for programming and I am not a math expert.
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January 7th, 2019 at 10:50:51 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

Actually $200 an hour seems very fair to me for a math expert that also programs. I charge that just for programming and I am not a math expert.




So when I pay 2 beers an hour to pick your mind, that's the friends and family discount?
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January 7th, 2019 at 11:41:49 AM permalink
Quote: evs

For $ 200 an hour I'll catch a bird in the field! For $ 200 per hour I will hire in Russia 10 mathematicians or 5 programmers and 5 mathematicians! Or 8 prostitutes!


This is no joke! in Russia a salary of $ 500 a month is good.
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January 7th, 2019 at 1:02:01 PM permalink
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This is no joke! in Russia a salary of $ 500 a month is good.

Serious question: What is the availability of Casino Roulette in Russia? When you and your Mathematicians defeat the game, where will you/they go to monetize their new found knowledge?
Next question: If ANYONE could figure out how to beat the game, how do the casinos survive so far?
Why aren't all those maths experts sitting in their mansions and turning away customers because they cannot be bothered?
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January 7th, 2019 at 3:11:37 PM permalink
Wait... so for 200 I can get 8 Russian prostitutes for an hour. What if I I only need them for 10 min? Is it only $25? I hope they are hot woman and not the type axel likes.
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January 7th, 2019 at 3:27:04 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Wait... so for 200 I can get 8 Russian prostitutes for an hour. What if I I only need them for 10 min? Is it only $25? I hope they are hot woman and not the type axel likes.



i am interested in 5 minutes for 12.50 with 8 russian prositutes
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January 7th, 2019 at 3:48:12 PM permalink
Quote: evs

For $ 200 per hour I will hire in Russia 10 mathematicians or 5 programmers and 5 mathematicians! Or 8 prostitutes!



Math puzzle time!

It take 10 Russian mathematicians an hour to paint a house. It take 8 Russian prostitutes an hour to paint a house. If you had 3 mathematicians and 5 prostitutes, how long would it take them to paint seven houses?
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January 7th, 2019 at 3:51:09 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Math puzzle time!

It take 10 Russian mathematicians an hour to paint a house. It take 8 Russian prostitutes an hour to paint a house. If you had 3 mathematicians and 5 prostitutes, how long would it take them to paint seven houses?



Before or after Mikey Cohen gets involved?
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January 7th, 2019 at 4:46:02 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Math puzzle time!

It take 10 Russian mathematicians an hour to paint a house. It take 8 Russian prostitutes an hour to paint a house. If you had 3 mathematicians and 5 prostitutes, how long would it take them to paint seven houses?

Jr. High math review time! I don't really know what it says about me that this was the most interesting part of this thread.
7.568 hours
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January 7th, 2019 at 5:02:09 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

For $200 per hour I'll prove any system doesn't hold water. The money you pay me will be much less than what you'll lose in the casino to eventually reach the same conclusion. I'm sure somebody will beat my number, but let the bidding begin. I will add I'm a very fast programmer.



For a flat rate of $200 I will prove whatever you want me to prove. Want to find a roulette system that works? For $200 I'll prove it for you.
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January 7th, 2019 at 5:17:53 PM permalink
Quote: LoquaciousMoFW

Jr. High math review time! I don't really know what it says about me that this was the most interesting part of this thread.

7.568 hours



Congratulations! I agree. I owe you a shot of vodka.
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January 8th, 2019 at 12:28:22 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Serious question: What is the availability of Casino Roulette in Russia? When you and your Mathematicians defeat the game, where will you/they go to monetize their new found knowledge?
Next question: If ANYONE could figure out how to beat the game, how do the casinos survive so far?
Why aren't all those maths experts sitting in their mansions and turning away customers because they cannot be bothered?



There are very few casinos in Russia, they are located in special territorial zones. Those who understand how to play instantly attract the attention and the entrance is closed.
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May 26th, 2019 at 12:50:36 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

"Tonight you party with us"

Hey Axel.... Why does the guy not have a shirt?



Old post but just saw it. Bert is my favorite comedian. He has gotten a little big now, I preferred when he was not as popular. When he came here last year we went to see him. After the show he always invites people to the bar next door. He is a huge drinker. We hung out with him until around 3am. It was a lot of fun. He did the invite on stage, not sure if people thought he wasnt serious but only about 15 people came over so it was just like hanging out with friends. He doesnt have a shirt because when we was just starting out he did it once to get noticed and it ended up being something that stuck with him. Now he is basically stuck doing it.
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